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December 26, 2011 11:27:03 PM

Hey Guys,

So i have searched and searched but no straight answer with actual facts and DATA!.

**CAN YOU DO (3)THREE 3D Monitors in EYEFINITY MODE(One Giant Display Across)

If so what monitors have been used and tested for this. Whats your setup? PASSIVE or ACTIVE? Best Graphics Card for THIS?

I already know about the monitors that are compatible and where to find the drivers* http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/Pa... *

I would like to see actual setups before a very pricy purchase. Looking towards the LG Cinema 3D D2342P.
Single Big monitor is not an Option. The Advantage of EYEFINITY is Great for more peripheral view in the Gaming World.

UPDATE**** In Post Number#4 I explain THAT I ALREADY know how EYEFINITY is Supported and how Active Adapters are needed. I build EYEFINITY setups almost every week for clients. I have never build a 3D EYEFINITY setup hence this POST!. Thanks In Advance!


My Current Setup

FX-6100 (6-Core)(Auto Tune) 4.12GHZ
ASUS M5A99X AM3+
16GB Corsair Vengance 1600mhz
Corsair H6O Liquid Cooler
Corsair GT 180gb SSD
Corsair 600T Graphite Series Case
900w Antec Current Gamer PSU
ASUS EAH 6950 2GB OC/920Mhz
Triple 22" Monitors EYEFINITY

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a c 128 C Monitor
December 27, 2011 12:00:06 AM

Currently, Eyefinity does not offer HD3D, but Nvidia 3D surround does.

It's possible in the near future that will change. I've seen something written down that might have shown that AMD is working on the technology along with allowing crossfire to work with HD3D, which currently it does not (which would make trying to play HD3D across 3 screens nearly impossible).
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a b C Monitor
December 27, 2011 12:01:55 AM

Yes, it is possible. Tom's posted a story about sapphire doing a set up like that last year. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ATI-Eyefinity-3D-3D-Ga...

Opinions I've heard more recently suggest waiting till the 7xxx series gpu's are released http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/eyefinity-stereo-3d/

As far as adapters go, use only ACTIVE display port adapters. I have yet to hear of anyone getting eyefinity to run successfully with passive adapters.
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December 27, 2011 4:54:41 AM

I know how the EYEFINTY Setups are. I sell at least 1 EYEFINTY setup a week. I currently have two demo's at my Shop. My Youtube Video on a Setup we built on a budget. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=984ZDWxZgFY
I know all about Active DP adapters and YES you need at least one of your displays to have a Active ADAPTER to work in EYEFINTY, if you dont then the monitors will all show up as Independent monitors instead of one Giant Image.

Yes i Have seen the Sapphire Setup, but as you have seen their demo, there is little to no information on how they have the setup.

I have done it all when it comes to EYFINITY, Triple Monitors, 6 Monitors and even 8 Monitors for a Independent Stock Market Client of mine.

But never have i tried or looked into 3D EYEFINITY since not many 3D monitors are made and/or affordable. Im Curious and i want to build one now.
So anyone know anyone that has one or has seen one?
I have read about the 7XXX series but still very little info on how to build a proper 3D EYEFINITY Setup. This sounds like something we should tell newegg to do and post a Video on it.

So anything ANYONE?
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December 27, 2011 5:45:47 AM

A) Use the latest AMD Driver 11.12:
Release Notes: "Enables support for AMD HD3D technology when using a 3x1 Landscape Eyefinity display group, on supported DisplayPort 3D monitors."

B) Get a Graphics card that has at least 3 mDP/DP ports
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/AMD_Series/EAH6970_D...

C) Get 3 x 3D Monitors with DP input
For example the Samsung S27A950D (or S23A750D)
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December 27, 2011 6:00:31 AM

NOW WE ARE TALKING!!! ok...my ASUS EAH6950 2GB Card has 2 DVI and 4 Display Ports.

Now THEORY?
**Could i make it work....USE 3 DP ports. Using 3 DP to HDMI(one of these being an Active adapter because we all know at least one Adapter needs to be Active so it works in EYEFINITY) and hooking it up to Three LG Cinema 3D monitors. Could this really be the setup we seek?

or Could we still have FLAWS? Must it be DP to DP?. if so, Must they Be Active DP Adapters? or Straight Shot DP cables? Hmmm...Questions!? So Many Questions!?
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December 27, 2011 6:25:53 AM

No. The added HD3D support in 11.12 is specifically for DisplayPort Monitors, not through adapters.

In theory, you could connect 2 of the 3 LG Cinema 3D monitors via DVI, and 1 of the 3 LG Cinema via active DP to DVI adapter, but you would need to depend/wait on TriDef or IZ3D to support 3 monitor 3d line interleaving.
(Your DP to HDMI setup would work, but is more expensive)

What I gave in the previous post is the simplest setup given the new supported feature in the driver. For games with native 3D support, such as DeusEx:HR and Dirt 3.
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December 27, 2011 6:28:23 AM

you will need to have more then 1 gpu to sustain playable fps at 5760X1080 fyi
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December 27, 2011 6:56:46 AM

Alright Now we getting somewhere... Well sweet now what are the best drivers to support that 3rd 3D monitor? you say IZ3D how would this work or am i reading to much into it and you say"not available yet"?

Now i know you can, for what i have read that ATI HD3D can pretty much convert games into Stereoscopic 3D which in theory thats what these monitors are for Stereoscopic 3D right?

ADDING another GPU is not an issue, i have quite a few in Stock.
But if Im correct Crossfire Support in HD3D is not available with the 6950 right? Crossfire would make a difference in regular EYEFINITY, but switch to 3D and it acts as if theres only one Card right?

So going back to the ADAPTER SETUP.....

AVAILABLE OPTIONS
Without issues and Current Catalyst Driver 11.12... is 2 passive DP to HDMI and 1 Active DP to HDMI , 3-LG Cinema 3D 23" Monitors with Passive 3D Glasses. and we dont require no thrid party drivers RIGHT? Do we have a solution!?

or

3-DP to DP...all passive adapters or straight shot DP cables(or does one have to be Active?) and 3 3D monitors with DP input and Current Catalyst 11.12 driver
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a c 128 C Monitor
December 27, 2011 2:53:08 PM

OkMan said:
No. The added HD3D support in 11.12 is specifically for DisplayPort Monitors, not through adapters.

In theory, you could connect 2 of the 3 LG Cinema 3D monitors via DVI, and 1 of the 3 LG Cinema via active DP to DVI adapter, but you would need to depend/wait on TriDef or IZ3D to support 3 monitor 3d line interleaving.
(Your DP to HDMI setup would work, but is more expensive)


What I gave in the previous post is the simplest setup given the new supported feature in the driver. For games with native 3D support, such as DeusEx:HR and Dirt 3.


That won't work unfortunately. AMD's version of HD3D requires frame packing when it's sent from the gpu to the monitor, and DVI does not support that.

Also, HD3D requires HDMI 1.4a (for the frame packing) to work over HDMI, but if you do choose HDMI 1.4a, you are limited to either 1080p @ 24hz or 720p at 60hz (per eye).

The only thing I'm not 100% certain is whether you find converters that will convert DP to HDMI 1.4a and maintain the frame packing.
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December 27, 2011 3:28:17 PM

Damn, No we getting way shut down!.

Ok well now we back at one again. I guess all DP to HDMI is a no go?
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a b C Monitor
December 27, 2011 3:34:26 PM

bystander said:
Currently, Eyefinity does not offer HD3D, but Nvidia 3D surround does.

It's possible in the near future that will change. I've seen something written down that might have shown that AMD is working on the technology along with allowing crossfire to work with HD3D, which currently it does not (which would make trying to play HD3D across 3 screens nearly impossible).

Are you sure of that ?
All the reviews on the HD 7970 indicates the full support of Eyefinity 3D and CrossfireX support in stereo 3D mode.

Even for the current HD 6k series, the CCC 12.1 preview supports CrossfireX in 3D
From AMD
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The AMD Catalyst™ 12.1 Preview includes all of the features found in AMD Catalyst™ 11.12 and also includes all of the latest optimizations found in the AMD Catalyst 11.11c performance drivers (AMD Catalyst 11.12 does not include the latest 11.11c optimizations). It is highly recommended that all gamers use the AMD Catalyst 12.1 Preview driver.

Feature highlights of the AMD Catalyst™ 12.1 Preview driver:

AMD HD3D technology support enhancement
· Enables support for AMD HD3D technology in conjunction with AMD CrossFireX configurations
· Delivers a new Stereo 3D mode over HDMI 1.4a connections - 1080p at 30Hz is now enabled on supported displays.
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December 27, 2011 4:02:49 PM

bystander said:
That won't work unfortunately. AMD's version of HD3D requires frame packing when it's sent from the gpu to the monitor, and DVI does not support that.

Also, HD3D requires HDMI 1.4a (for the frame packing) to work over HDMI, but if you do choose HDMI 1.4a, you are limited to either 1080p @ 24hz or 720p at 60hz (per eye).

The only thing I'm not 100% certain is whether you find converters that will convert DP to HDMI 1.4a and maintain the frame packing.


Yes you are correct about AMD's HD3D (quad-buffering) using frame packing to transmit 3D, and that this will not work over DVI.

What I was suggesting is an alternative option of not using AMD's HD3D to drive the 3d content. This is going to be incredibly confusing for me to explain, but...
Since these LG 3D monitors are passive interleaved monitors (versus the Active shutter 3D) you can cheat and have the software(DeusEx)/middleware(IZ3D/Tridef) do drive all the 2D -> 3D conversion. Hence the GPU doesn't really know it's driving 3D content, but it works because the monitor is always in 3D mode.

To put this in perspective, if you opened up MSPaint and drew a single pixel horizontal black line followed by a single pixel horizontal white line, and did this down the entire screen and put the 3D glasses. One eye would see all black and one would see all white. Now if you spliced an image on all the black lines, and spliced another image on all the white lines, you would see the respective images on each eye. This exactly how you can cheat with these passive 3D monitors to display 3D, with the GPU knowing it's driving 3D content. I know "certain" gameswill support "certain" passive 3D monitors and do this.

There are no active DP to HDMI 1.4a currently in the market as far as I'm aware. Only HDMI 1.3 which will not work.

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December 27, 2011 4:27:27 PM

You are Right, no luck on Active DP to HDMI 1.4a. only in passive.

So the Big Question is HOW DID SAPPHIRE MAKE THERE 3D EYEFINITY Build?, they say the monitors and mention IZ3D, but thats it, no graphics card or Adapters used or configuration!?.

Im ready to drop some cheese and get this build complete but hate to buy and not have the right Hardware.

Yes i have herd about Catalyst 12.1 and it upcoming features to Crossfire HD3D and Delivers a new Stereo 3D mode over HDMI 1.4a connections - 1080p at 30Hz is now enabled on supported displays.

But what does this mean, there are still hardware required to make this happen, BUT WHAT?! WHAT ADAPTERS?!,

There has got to be someone out there that has a current triple Monitor 3D EYEFINITY setup! I cant be the only one attempting this besides Sapphire.
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a c 128 C Monitor
December 27, 2011 6:08:45 PM

ilysaml said:
Are you sure of that ?
All the reviews on the HD 7970 indicates the full support of Eyefinity 3D and CrossfireX support in stereo 3D mode.

Even for the current HD 6k series, the CCC 12.1 preview supports CrossfireX in 3D
From AMD
Quote:
The AMD Catalyst™ 12.1 Preview includes all of the features found in AMD Catalyst™ 11.12 and also includes all of the latest optimizations found in the AMD Catalyst 11.11c performance drivers (AMD Catalyst 11.12 does not include the latest 11.11c optimizations). It is highly recommended that all gamers use the AMD Catalyst 12.1 Preview driver.

Feature highlights of the AMD Catalyst™ 12.1 Preview driver:

AMD HD3D technology support enhancement
· Enables support for AMD HD3D technology in conjunction with AMD CrossFireX configurations
· Delivers a new Stereo 3D mode over HDMI 1.4a connections - 1080p at 30Hz is now enabled on supported displays.


As the other poster showed, they did JUST release drivers to support this. I was aware that it was coming soon, but I was not aware that it just went into the last drivers.

Though it is required to use DP or HDMI 1.4a connections.

OkMan may have a way to get around the requirements, if he's right.
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December 27, 2011 7:06:17 PM

Well lets see what the Graphic Cards Have,

My ASUS EAH6850 2GB has 2 DVI and 4 DP
Other Card MSI Twin Frozr III 6850 2GB has 2 DVI 1HDMI 2 Mini DP,

What what do we need as far as Adpaters? how many Active? from who? Accell or XFX? what Monitors? LG Cinema 3D connection type D-Sub, DVI, HDMI?

What Software?

I have sent Newegg a Request for them to Maybe do a Demo build on their youtube Channel with Description and Parts, this could be good for ASUS since they have all the Name Brand Parts, ASUS card and 3D Monitors. Works in their favor and Customers will follow.
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a c 128 C Monitor
December 27, 2011 7:33:46 PM

I do not know. Perhaps you should call AMD for some help.
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December 27, 2011 10:12:50 PM

I would love to call them, but usually you can never get past technical support which half the time they dont know anything, they just read and punch in your issues and read what we already know for what they provide online.

If anyone knows a good number to contact them directly and talk to a ATI Guru that would be great.!
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a b C Monitor
December 27, 2011 10:56:25 PM

Wait few days till the HD 7970 is on hand, i'm pretty sure there'll be plenty of reviews about CF with Eyfinity 3D.
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December 27, 2011 11:06:56 PM

OK well aint giving up yet!,......but......i read a thread someone already ordered a 7970? Possible? how and from who can we get one? id like to order one for Giggles and put a demo up!

ANYONE? WHERE CAN WE PRE ORDER OR LOOK AT FUTURE PRODUCTS OF THE Radeon 7970? Not the Reviews we already know but! to purchase one!?
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a b C Monitor
December 27, 2011 11:08:12 PM

djscomputerservice said:
OK well aint giving up yet!,......but......i read a thread someone already ordered a 7970? Possible? how and from who can we get one? id like to order one for Giggles and put a demo up!

ANYONE? WHERE CAN WE PRE ORDER OR LOOK AT FUTURE PRODUCTS OF THE Radeon 7970? Not the Reviews we already know but! to purchase one!?

Stop shouting.
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December 27, 2011 11:57:55 PM

Rules of the Military. No question is never to stupid.
Rule number 2. Act stupid you get killed.


Same principles when it comes to Gathering information. Once you have Been in for awhile you understand how to manipulate to stay alive.

In Simple, To pretend to be dumb and ask questions gets you answers. Combine all that information and only experienced personnel get the whole picture.

We are here to gather Intel. Not to judge whether we are in business or not. Keep your opinions to yourself and respect others the way you wanna be respected.

FYI: If you would've done your research like true professionals do, then you would know the truth and you would not be jumping to assumptions about my company.

Now like good ol' Policy Says...stay on topic.

So anyone know where to Order a Radeon 7970?
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December 28, 2011 5:05:17 PM

Trying to contact Sapphire and see what they tell me in regards to the setup they have, already contacted Newegg TV and suggested a Demo.

Also trying to look up and see where or who will be releasing Their 7970 cards, Im Down with ASUS or XFX. Anyone herd anything?
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December 28, 2011 8:51:13 PM

Just to elaborate on the initial config I was recommending:

A) Use the latest AMD Driver 11.12 (or 12.1 preview for Crossfire support):
Release Notes: "Enables support for AMD HD3D technology when using a 3x1 Landscape Eyefinity display group, on supported DisplayPort 3D monitors."

B) Get a Graphics card that has at least 3 mDP/DP ports
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards [...] 2DI4S2GD5/

C) Get 3 x 3D Monitors with DP input
For example the Samsung S27A950D (there's also the S23A950D, S27A750D, S23A750D)
I'd recommend using these over the LG Cinema so you can take full advantage of the AMD HD3D technology (quad buffer -> 1080P @ 120hz)

D) 3 x DP to DP cables for connecting the monitors to the GPU (If your GPU has mDP, then you'll need standard mDP to DP adapter, there no such thing as active mDP to DP adapter http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-don...)

E) Software (This is where it gets tricky)
Two "potential" options for this:
i) A game title with native 3D & eyefinity support (Look at DeusEx:HR, Dirt 3, BF3...)
ii) Use middleware to do 2D -> 3D conversion (Look at Tridef, IZ3D)
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December 30, 2011 4:21:01 PM

OkMan said:
Just to elaborate on the initial config I was recommending:

A) Use the latest AMD Driver 11.12 (or 12.1 preview for Crossfire support):
Release Notes: "Enables support for AMD HD3D technology when using a 3x1 Landscape Eyefinity display group, on supported DisplayPort 3D monitors."

B) Get a Graphics card that has at least 3 mDP/DP ports
http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards [...] 2DI4S2GD5/

C) Get 3 x 3D Monitors with DP input
For example the Samsung S27A950D (there's also the S23A950D, S27A750D, S23A750D)
I'd recommend using these over the LG Cinema so you can take full advantage of the AMD HD3D technology (quad buffer -> 1080P @ 120hz)

D) 3 x DP to DP cables for connecting the monitors to the GPU (If your GPU has mDP, then you'll need standard mDP to DP adapter, there no such thing as active mDP to DP adapter http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-don...)

E) Software (This is where it gets tricky)
Two "potential" options for this:
i) A game title with native 3D & eyefinity support (Look at DeusEx:HR, Dirt 3, BF3...)
ii) Use middleware to do 2D -> 3D conversion (Look at Tridef, IZ3D)



Genius!... Now i see exactly what you mean. I will be getting a 7970 to put in stock the first chance i get but no luck so far on where to get one.

So im trying to do a nice 3D setup with the 6900 series. They are obviously gonna get lower in price the moment the 7 series come out which will be great for my customers.

Update***just picked up 3 of each of the LG Cinema 3D yesterday and The ASUS 23" 3D Monitors as well. So im Excited to see the end results. I know the LG Cinema 3D doesnt have any DP ports so im pushing and see if i can get the DVI and DP setup to do it or Dual Link DVI and HDMI and DP port. If it dont work then I'll just put together a Dual GTX 560 Ti SLI with the LG monitors in NVIDIA 3D Vison Surround and push it out the door.
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January 9, 2012 2:19:13 AM

djscomputerservice said:
Genius!... Now i see exactly what you mean. I will be getting a 7970 to put in stock the first chance i get but no luck so far on where to get one.

So im trying to do a nice 3D setup with the 6900 series. They are obviously gonna get lower in price the moment the 7 series come out which will be great for my customers.

Update***just picked up 3 of each of the LG Cinema 3D yesterday and The ASUS 23" 3D Monitors as well. So im Excited to see the end results. I know the LG Cinema 3D doesnt have any DP ports so im pushing and see if i can get the DVI and DP setup to do it or Dual Link DVI and HDMI and DP port. If it dont work then I'll just put together a Dual GTX 560 Ti SLI with the LG monitors in NVIDIA 3D Vison Surround and push it out the door.



Please let us know how it goes... I am also interested into the right hardware combination for HD3D eyefinity and I'd rather not do this by trial and error (too expensive to do it that way).
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January 9, 2012 6:21:49 PM

YES WE WILL... We Also have Ordered the NEW XFX Radeon HD 7970 Black Edition. Clocked at 1000mhz and 3GB DDR5 VRAM with DUAL FAN Dissipation Cooling from XFX. THAT we will also put to the Test on how simple it is to do the HD3D EYEFINITY the have been bragging about. So stay tuned!..


ALSO we will be posting Reviews and How To Videos on our YouTube Channel As well in regards to this Setups on the 6870 and 7970.

www.youtube.com/DJsComputerService ...dont forget to Subscribe!. Thanks
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January 26, 2012 4:31:07 AM

djscomputerservice said:
Hey Guys,

So i have searched and searched but no straight answer with actual facts and DATA!.

**CAN YOU DO (3)THREE 3D Monitors in EYEFINITY MODE(One Giant Display Across)

If so what monitors have been used and tested for this. Whats your setup? PASSIVE or ACTIVE? Best Graphics Card for THIS?

I already know about the monitors that are compatible and where to find the drivers* http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-hd3d/Pa... *

I would like to see actual setups before a very pricy purchase. Looking towards the LG Cinema 3D D2342P.
Single Big monitor is not an Option. The Advantage of EYEFINITY is Great for more peripheral view in the Gaming World.

UPDATE**** In Post Number#4 I explain THAT I ALREADY know how EYEFINITY is Supported and how Active Adapters are needed. I build EYEFINITY setups almost every week for clients. I have never build a 3D EYEFINITY setup hence this POST!. Thanks In Advance!


My Current Setup

FX-6100 (6-Core)(Auto Tune) 4.12GHZ
ASUS M5A99X AM3+
16GB Corsair Vengance 1600mhz
Corsair H6O Liquid Cooler
Corsair GT 180gb SSD
Corsair 600T Graphite Series Case
900w Antec Current Gamer PSU
ASUS EAH 6950 2GB OC/920Mhz
Triple 22" Monitors EYEFINITY






hello i hope im not too behind im just a gamer and i bought 3 of the same monitors and i was able to get 3D in eyefinity using 6950 crossfired and unlock to 6970 video card and it works perfect
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March 7, 2012 5:26:45 AM

flames012984 said:
hello i hope im not too behind im just a gamer and i bought 3 of the same monitors and i was able to get 3D in eyefinity using 6950 crossfired and unlock to 6970 video card and it works perfect


Good to know, how did you connect them? i've currently got 1 (lg2342) monitor and 1 7950 3GB oc, currently connected via dvi. Am i right in thinking if i buy 2 more, i need 2 x active DP adpaters to DVI and possibly another gpu in crossfire (to keep frame rates up) and then i can run 3d in eyefinity, is that right?



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May 7, 2012 4:20:09 PM

a little black duck said:
Yes, it is possible. Tom's posted a story about sapphire doing a set up like that last year. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ATI-Eyefinity-3D-3D-Ga...

Opinions I've heard more recently suggest waiting till the 7xxx series gpu's are released http://3dvision-blog.com/tag/eyefinity-stereo-3d/

As far as adapters go, use only ACTIVE display port adapters. I have yet to hear of anyone getting eyefinity to run successfully with passive adapters.


Not true. Guess I'm the only one creative enough to use a passive vga to mini-dp cable :D  I have used eyefinity with passive dp to vga THE WHOLE TIME(since my 5770, no problems). If you are persistent enough u can find a google IF u really look hard. resolution might be a bit limited i can't test due to lcd limitation but active being a requirement for eyefinity is a very false statement...

You guys actually build this all the time and u didn't know this? save some money why don't cha???

EDIT:googling 2 years later actually yields tons I guess it's no longer a secret to use passive VGA.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65741M&vpn=DP2VGA2&manufa...
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a b C Monitor
May 7, 2012 8:22:59 PM

badcompany2freak said:
Not true. Guess I'm the only one creative enough to use a passive vga to mini-dp cable :D  I have used eyefinity with passive dp to vga THE WHOLE TIME(since my 5770, no problems). If you are persistent enough u can find a google IF u really look hard. resolution might be a bit limited i can't test due to lcd limitation but active being a requirement for eyefinity is a very false statement...

You guys actually build this all the time and u didn't know this? save some money why don't cha???

EDIT:googling 2 years later actually yields tons I guess it's no longer a secret to use passive VGA.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65741M&vpn=DP2VGA2&manufa...


Well, congratulations, you're the first I've heard of that's actually got eyefinity to work with a passive adapter. But rather than just bragging about it, how about putting up a post telling toms readers how you did it. Or are you all talk?
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May 8, 2012 2:30:27 AM

Same as with active adapter(actually i dont know because i've never needed an active adapter)?? 2x dvi(NO ADAPTERS), and A SINGLE PASSIVE minidp to vga ADAPTER for the right(or left)side monitor, any dp on back of my 6950 works... other 2 are dvi monitors directly plugged into the x2 dvi on the back of 6950. never tried it with all dp videocard though but I don't see why not.

So 2 screens are running digitally through dvi, and a third analog through DP. All 3 show up as digital flat panels and go to their max rated specs in extended desktop but the resolution is limited to the crappiest monitor of the three(x3 of course) during eyefinity. AMD7xxx series remedies this issue and is really quite impressive to see random configuratuons/sizes and orientations lined up perfectly!

Also that link, that's the passive adapter that you want, quite the savings and i'm sure they're available cheaper elsewhere, i seem to remember getting mine for $15 (sapphire, on sale).

This is still a relatively well kept secret, as close to zero store technicians even know this simple 15 minute research, and for a reason too(because they're stupid), partly, well money. Why advertise the cheaper shite??

I'm also of the opinion you only need 74hz to enjoy 3d(both shutter OR anaglyph). Order free Colorcode glasses from national film board(I;m canadian!) +IZ3d driver ok broh? They don't hate even if ur in honolulu is canadites still love u and will send u free specs for some reason, DUNNO CUZ THEYRE FREE FROM TAX MONEY? I guess.

Man i must not care at all today, sorry peeps. Have a nice day. Also this is not a trololo or i would have wrote trololol after "I've never needed active adapter" because I wanted to but then you'd think I'm actually a real trololol but I'm just a guy, a guy with A Dream, of a videogame EVERY, DAY. Hope this helped in spite of OT jibberish but *** I'm not putting the time or effort into random threads that nobody appreciates!!
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a c 128 C Monitor
May 8, 2012 2:49:11 AM

A passive adapter has always worked with Sapphire Flex cards. Are you using a Flex card? They take away the need to use an active DP connection.
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a b C Monitor
May 8, 2012 4:14:31 AM

badcompany2freak said:
Same as with active adapter(actually i dont know because i've never needed an active adapter)?? 2x dvi(NO ADAPTERS), and A SINGLE PASSIVE minidp to vga ADAPTER for the right(or left)side monitor, any dp on back of my 6950 works... other 2 are dvi monitors directly plugged into the x2 dvi on the back of 6950. never tried it with all dp videocard though but I don't see why not.

So 2 screens are running digitally through dvi, and a third analog through DP. All 3 show up as digital flat panels and go to their max rated specs in extended desktop but the resolution is limited to the crappiest monitor of the three(x3 of course) during eyefinity. AMD7xxx series remedies this issue and is really quite impressive to see random configuratuons/sizes and orientations lined up perfectly!

Also that link, that's the passive adapter that you want, quite the savings and i'm sure they're available cheaper elsewhere, i seem to remember getting mine for $15 (sapphire, on sale).

This is still a relatively well kept secret, as close to zero store technicians even know this simple 15 minute research, and for a reason too(because they're stupid), partly, well money. Why advertise the cheaper shite??

I'm also of the opinion you only need 74hz to enjoy 3d(both shutter OR anaglyph). Order free Colorcode glasses from national film board(I;m canadian!) +IZ3d driver ok broh? They don't hate even if ur in honolulu is canadites still love u and will send u free specs for some reason, DUNNO CUZ THEYRE FREE FROM TAX MONEY? I guess.

Man i must not care at all today, sorry peeps. Have a nice day. Also this is not a trololo or i would have wrote trololol after "I've never needed active adapter" because I wanted to but then you'd think I'm actually a real trololol but I'm just a guy, a guy with A Dream, of a videogame EVERY, DAY. Hope this helped in spite of OT jibberish but *** I'm not putting the time or effort into random threads that nobody appreciates!!


Sorry, not the same as 'active' because if it were the same, then all those peeps that came to toms looking for help getting eyefinity to work wouldn't have asked if passive worked the same. Further, if passive adapters did the job in the first place, why would the manufacturers make a more expensive active adapter if passive worked just as well?
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May 8, 2012 3:04:48 PM

Pain and simple: Passive DP to vga works, passive DP to DVI does NOT(limited resolution I've heard). All these fools using passive dvi adapters can now STFU and get urself an analog cable for ur monitor. Instead of arguing because u think it's too good to be true, just try it. U could even do it with CRT as ur third screen if u want to get fucky about it.
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May 8, 2012 3:10:33 PM

Oh and to your last question, the answer is the almighty dollar. people really do worship it you know ;)  Passive and active dongles are very similar cost to manufacture so why the hell not? ITS A CONSPIRASCY. Same with me having to buy a minidp to vga and throw out my large dp to vga when upgrading from 5770(stock, reference, more minis fit on board so im happy)to my new baby xfx 6950 XXX OC edition(POS has only one fan, there's another $$$ conspiracy of money right there for u, sort of).
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May 8, 2012 8:35:22 PM

Hmm, so once again, no details on how you accomplished this. You just plugged it in and it works? Pity that didn't work for all the others that tired that route. Oh well, I'm pleased that you managed to get it to work for you.

Good luck.
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May 9, 2012 2:28:26 AM

Shucks, well i'll go through it step by step then, and i'll tell you exactly how i plugged 'em in down to the finest little detail!! I'm in Kanada(yes that is the correct spelling, psssh), I am pretty sure we get the same 57xxs and 69xxs as everyone else, maybe I have magical powers or some other such horse ***. No, I just plugged 'em in!(schills always say you can't possibly do this... hint hint lotta dollars diverted here lying pays and it's legal on the net anonymously, they have machines that to this automatically, they are called schill bots... VERY big profit and influences in the bot market)

ok so u got 2x dvi on the back, one HDMI and 2x dual link mini dp (In order that I wrote lets call them 1,2,3,4,5).
f.1 f.2 f.3
1|3|4|5 |DVI|HDMI|DP|DP X|HDMI|X|DP
2| |DVI| X

OK so plug left and middle into 1 and 2(location shown by the x's, figure 3. Also note figures #1 and #2 for clarification of what goes where). These are DVI ports connected to the monitors which have native dvi.

NOW, very important, you need this exact thing for your third screen to be driven AT ALL through DP. Hint: this is what's on the back of my machine right now as we speak, and i have also used the standard dp size model with 100% success as well for over 4 years now. these are PASSIVE and NOT DVI or digital of any sort!!

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55421&vpn=MDP2VGA&manufac...

Honestly RU stealthily trolling me or something? Because this does truly work for me every new machine i buy and it really won't get any more simple than trying it for yourself... my monitors are NOT special and 2 of them are quite out dated and probly cost at least 500 when new just to give you an idea that u dont need 2 be special for it to work.

1. plug left screen(Lg Flatron, 19")into bottom DVI(figure 1, number 2; figure 2, bottom dvi; fig. 3, second row 1st X)this older flattron fits both dvi-d/dvi-i and VGA plugs, reads as digital and i use the straight dvi-d to dvi-d as far as i know, have tried both kinds of pins and they both the same) Simply put plug the first monitor into DVI.

2. repeat step 1, with a middle monitor and see figures 1 through 3 for location of the 2 dvi ports)

3. This is truly the most mentally taxing part. You have to plug the minidp into the computer after u plug the startech dongle into your VGA(NOT DVI)cable. Truly the most mind crushing part of this is actually getting the little miniDP plug plugged in, because it sticks and has to be lined up neatly due to it's size and strentgh of the connection. By far this is the most awesome and connected type of port i have ever seen, and safe bvecause it can be yanked without taking the computer with it!!

Hmm....
1. monjitor 1 plug in (dvi)
2. monotor 2 plug in(dvi)
3. monitor 3(vga cord)plug in to ADAPTER, PASSIVE then plug in to MINI DP, the LEFT ONE(closest to middle of the 6950)

Video cards used:
Saphhire 5770 1gb
XFX Radeon HD 6950 1gb XXX OC edition.

If you still refuse to decipher this then I dunno man can't help any more. I get similar reactions from store techies. "what? analog? what's that?"
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May 9, 2012 3:51:04 AM

lol, fail. This is the adapter you're using? http://ncix.com/products/?sku=5542 [...] artech.com
The MDP2VGA from startech? Don't quite know how to tell you this, but that is an ACTIVE adapter. Look at the 3rd adapter up from the bottom, and check the heading it's under.
http://support.amd.com/us/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity-don...
AMD list it as active. Fyi, further research suggests that apparently, according to some,"...you can't just pass a vga signal through dp, it has to be 'actively' converted and therefore there are no actual passive dp/vga adapters. Whilst not 'active' in the true sense, these adapters 'actively' convert the signal..."
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May 9, 2012 6:07:30 AM

DP does in fact carry analog signal at the same time but it's not used for dp or dvi-d connections. This adapter is not powered and relatively cheap, and there are ones not listed on amd that work too(and a little bit cheaper)that carry the same function. The inflated pricing on "active" adapters is purely for digital reasons(try dp to dvi passive and you will understand, it won't work at high res but vga seems alright. this is where the confusion lies). If your monitor is analog capable, you will get away with using this cheaper non-powered adapter. Honestly there is no more argument to be had here. Weather or not it is active or not doesn't matter in this instance, still it may say converter and that is true in a sense but it really gets its vga signal through the DP and i don't think theres much more than wires inside of it, never opened it up though. That is the only reason that this worked for me. I can replicate this "bullshit", why can't you? Sounding like a schill are we? Well trololol to you too there Stealth Ducktroller.
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May 9, 2012 6:25:14 AM

Well, thank you bc2f for your not very enlightening replies, your vitriol is misplaced to say the least. Did you really think I wanted to know how to plug cables in? I originally thought you had found a way to configure CCC to run eyefinity with passive adapters, and was genuinely interested in how you had achieved this. However, it has since come to pass that you were in fact using an active adapter approved by amd all along and were in fact trolling me, so congrats, you got me.
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May 9, 2012 7:30:50 AM

FAIL Ur not funny dude, and you didn't get me either. Nobody else cares about this thread because everything you need to know about this is already on google. Passive to VGA is what you want if you don't want to lose $100 or however much this crap is going for these days. Lies from business people aren't welcome on ANY forum. Kindly STFU now please.
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May 9, 2012 8:52:21 AM

badcompany2freak said:
Lies from business people aren't welcome on ANY forum. Kindly STFU now please.


You took the words right out of my mouth.
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May 10, 2012 4:41:55 PM

LOL I really hope u try this and see for urself, just get the same brand as me if ur not sure. I am an honest person and I certainly wouldn`t waste my time joshing someone for a week on tomshardware of all places I like this site and have learned about half of what I know from here, I`ll bet there are other threads covering this too. Good luck!!
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May 10, 2012 5:49:22 PM

Sir, please stop trying to spread misinformation. The adapter you're using is NOT passive as you claim but is listed by AMD as an 'ACTIVE' adapter on their support pages (link provided in above post) Further research suggest that there may not even be such a thing as a passive dp/vga adapter as all those that have been disected have revealed the inclusion of DAC chip. Also, it appears that the whole active/passive argument doesn't become applicable until you get to digital, i.e. dp/dvi or dp/hdmi. As for me trying it, there's no need. I have had eyefinity sucessfully running on my rig for the past 14 months and have used both dp/dvi and dp/vga. Both worked well with minor or no set up problems. But don't take my word for it. Here's some further reading that explains it better than I appear to have done.

http://www.overclock.net/t/721931/active-vs-passive-dis...

http://vvvv.org/forum/ati-eyefinity-displayport

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2045953

I hope this clears up any confusion. Good luck.
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May 16, 2012 12:56:22 PM

Hi guys! I use the translator to ask a question (from Russian)
Can I use two videocards ATI 6850 to get a picture with two projectors 1280x800 with a frequency of 120Hz. I need to get a screen using a Eyefinity 1280x1600 (2 projectors in portrait mode) and watch movies using Stereoscopic Player. I read that only 7970 graphics card supports Eyefinity 3D, but it is expensive for me. Can it be replaced with two 6850 cards in Crossfire mode to get the screen is 1280x1600 @120Hz
Best regards, Denis
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July 6, 2012 4:49:17 PM

now its possible to use eyefinity in 3d mode because of the new eyefinity 2.0..
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July 6, 2012 4:50:23 PM

This topic has been closed by Mousemonkey
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