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February 28, 2012 10:36:35 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: First Two Weeks of March

Budget Range: $520 Before Taxes

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (Mostly high end)

Parts Not Required: Monitor, Mouse, Keyboard. PSU (Coolermaster 600w eXtreme Power)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.canadacomputers.com hamilton locations only

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: Doesn't matter

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: :Later

Monitor Resolution: 1600 - 1200

Additional Comments: I am bulding the computer for my friend since he has seen how the one I made last time which I posted on here. He is basically in the same boat with price and needs to get another opinion other then mine.




Current Build Idea so far


Motherboard : Asus M5A88-V EVO Socket AM3+ AMD 880G/SB850 Chipset Dual Channel DDR3 2000(O.C.)/1866/1800/1600/1333/1066 MHz 2x PCI Express 2.0 Slots 8-Channel HD Audio GigaLAN 5x SATA 6Gb/s 1 x UltraDMA 2x USB 3.0 12x USB 2.0 DVI/VGA/HDMI ATX ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2... )


Processor : AMD A8-3870K Quad Core 3.0GHz Unlocked APU , Socket FM1, 4Mb L2 Cache, 100W 32nm (AD3870WNGXBOX) ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4... )


Graphics Card : Gigabyte (GV-N550WF2-1GI) nVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti Chipset (970MHz) 1GB (4200MHz) GDDR5 DVI/HDMI/VGA PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card ( Gigabyte (GV-N550WF2-1GI) nVIDIA GeForce GTX 550 Ti Chipset (970MHz) 1GB (4200MHz) GDDR5 DVI/HDMI/VGA PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card )


Computer Memory : Patriot Signature 4GB DDR3 1333MHz CL9 DIMM (PSD34G13332) ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2... )

Case/Chasis : Cooler Master Elite 430 Black Mid Tower Case (RC-430-KWN1) ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6... )


Total Price : 472.95 Before Taxes - After Taxes 534.34 So about 50 dollar wiggle room.

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February 28, 2012 10:53:19 PM

How is a FM1 socket APU going to work in a AM3+ board? besides, to me it seems like you would be better off (should you go AMD) if you used a bulldozer like a FX-6100 and put a little more money into graphics. the 550ti is really quite weak.
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February 28, 2012 10:57:25 PM

If you're going with discrete graphics, I'd probably pick up an i3 instead of an A8. The big advantage AMD's APUs have over Intel is the vastly superior integrated graphics. Since you won't be using it, you miss out on the best part of the chip.
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February 28, 2012 10:58:01 PM

A recent tom's article Compared <$200 cpu's for gaming.
The conclusion was that almost ANY intel cpu did better than amd. Even the lowly $80 G630 beat the a8-3870K
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...
You might reconsider.

Also, ram is so cheap, that I might get a cheap 8gb(2x4gb) kit up front instead of a single 4gb stick.
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February 28, 2012 11:14:39 PM

teddiousbear said:
New CPU : AMD Bulldozer X6 FX-6100 (95W) Six Core Socket AM3+, 3.3GHz, 8Mb Cache,32nm (FD6100WMGUSBX) ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4... )

New GPU : Sapphire (11180-00-20R) AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon HD 6850 Chipset (775Mhz) 1GB GDDR5 (4000Mhz) Memory HD Audio Triple Display (Dual DVI) /HDMI/Display Port PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4... )


Note that the G630 is as good as the FX-6100, Fx-8100 too.
For that price, you will be much happier with a i3-2100 or i3-2120.
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February 29, 2012 12:05:43 AM

You seem to have gotten a few things mixed up...
First the mother board and processor don't have matching socket types. So they're not compatible.
Second, that AMD A8 is an APU, so it has exceptional on board graphics. You don't want to be getting this and a dedicated GPU.
Third, you need a hard drive.

Here's my recommendation...

i3-2120
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
- The i3 basically outmatches any AMD product in its price point. Take a look here, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
- A good solid motherboard choice. Has 2x PCIe 3 that can do 8x/8x SLI or Xfire and USB 3.0.

Western Digital Caviar Blue
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
- A vanilla run of the mill hard drive.

Cooler Master Elite 430
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6...
- A good case that you picked out lol

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1600MHz 4gb
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
- Good reliable brand.

AMD Radeon HD 6790 1GB GDDR5
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
- A pretty decent graphics card. Should do you well enough.

Total = ~ $570

I was looking for a 6770 or a cheaper 6790, but that was the only one available at their Hamilton location. You might want to wait until a 6770 becomes available or order it through them.
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March 1, 2012 2:14:49 AM

Grand_Admiral_K said:
You seem to have gotten a few things mixed up...
First the mother board and processor don't have matching socket types. So they're not compatible.
Second, that AMD A8 is an APU, so it has exceptional on board graphics. You don't want to be getting this and a dedicated GPU.
Third, you need a hard drive.

Here's my recommendation...

i3-2120
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
- The i3 basically outmatches any AMD product in its price point. Take a look here, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
- A good solid motherboard choice. Has 2x PCIe 3 that can do 8x/8x SLI or Xfire and USB 3.0.

Western Digital Caviar Blue
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=1...
- A vanilla run of the mill hard drive.

Cooler Master Elite 430
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=6...
- A good case that you picked out lol

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1600MHz 4gb
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2...
- Good reliable brand.

AMD Radeon HD 6790 1GB GDDR5
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4...
- A pretty decent graphics card. Should do you well enough.

Total = ~ $570

I was looking for a 6770 or a cheaper 6790, but that was the only one available at their Hamilton location. You might want to wait until a 6770 becomes available or order it through them.

Thanks for the big help and I found a 128gb ssd drive in one of my boxes of stuff so I'm giving him my old 500gb 7200rpm hdd so he doesn't need storage.
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March 1, 2012 2:30:02 AM

So this is what I have it looking like now:

Mobo: ASUS P8Z68 ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2... )

CPU : Intel i3 2120 ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4... )

GPU : ASUS 6850 1GB ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=4... )

Memory : G Skill Ripjaws X 2x2 4GB 1600MHZ ( http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=2... )

And I have the 600Watt eXtreme PSU and 500GB Storage (Can't find the make and model only information on it)

Before Taxes:495.95 560.42 After taxes
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March 1, 2012 6:01:44 PM

Looks like a solid build to me! Hope he enjoys it : )
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March 1, 2012 6:06:00 PM

Thanks everyone for all the help yet again. :) 
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March 7, 2012 11:35:36 PM

Best answer selected by teddiousbear.
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