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February 28, 2012 11:22:47 PM

Please help me I've recently had some tragic life news and am building a new computer to try to improve my mood.

order of importance:

- absolute silence
- gaming (BF3, World of Tanks, World of Warplanes) at 1920 x 1080 resolution
- fast
- sound - would like to improve music quality (feel gaming sound is good enough).
- will use only AMD for processor and video (don't want Intel to go back to charging us $2000 for a CPU do we?)


I won't migrate over much from old PC except a hard drive for storage, 27" ASUS monitor, Logitech webcam, and M-Audio speakers (2.0). I will have the computer do general work, some office apps, gaming, web surfing, etc.

build I have picked out:

Fractal Design XL case
ASUS Sabretooth 990FX mobo
AMD FX-8120 processor (not sure about this one)
XFX 6870 1GB video (not sure about this)
Silverstone 600 watt power supply
Samsung 830 SSD 256GB (was down to this or new Intel)
Mushkin DDR3 8GB RAM (2x4GB)
Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB drive (extra storage)
Creative Labs Fata1ty Pro sound card (any other options for better music? I don't do 5.1 sound only 2.0 speaker setup, sound card <$150)
Xigmatek GAIA CPU cooling fan
Win7 64bit pro
haven't picked an optical drive yet.

I have the wishlist saved as Comp2012 at Newegg but it won't show up as public when I search for it . . .

Any advice on above? Specifically better video card for say <$250 ish that is quiet when not gaming and not too hot. Looks like I'll have to change RAM selection since its out of stock. Any advice on soundcard to improve music over onboard sound? I think I picked about the best AM3+ mobo I could find but not sure about best processor for AMD.

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February 28, 2012 11:27:50 PM

many people here at toms will tell you to get an intel i5 2500k with your budget, actually if you were on a tight budget i would have recommended you the amd cpu but since you got a bigger manhood to uphold i really suggest you the i5 2500k intel build and even the x79 sandy bridge-e (i manage to build an old sb-e build using 3930K and now im using 3960X) and that 3930K build was at 19xx USD using dual gtx570, so lets see what i can come up with right now
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February 28, 2012 11:28:45 PM

1st i will look into the 1155 socket since you did mention about some sound cards and stuff, and yes i do tell you to look at creative brand, i love it, ok on we go, i'll edit this once i get some parts out off newegg, btw i will do some AMD Build since you want one too but in the end its up to you who decide.


Processor: 224.99$ > 15% off promo code
Intel i5 2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: 229.99$>189.99$ after rebate
MSi Z68A-GD80 (G3)(Gen 3 ready)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: 46.99
G.SKILL Ripjaws 8GB (2X4GB) 1600Mhz CL9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Processing Unit: 309.99$>279.99$ after rebate> Free Batman Arkham coupon w/ purchase, limited offer (just give this away or something if you don't need or give it to me ^_^ the coupon of batman)
MSi N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
=========x2 of these in SLI===========

Hard Disk Drive: 179.99$
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Solid Slate Drive: 169.99$
Corsair Force 3 120GB SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Chassis: 119.99$> 10% off promo code
NZXT Phantom Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: 34.99$
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
http://204.14.213.185/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sound Card: 49.99
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: 219.99$
Seasonic Platinum 860W 80PLUS Platinum
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: 1896.89$ before Rebate
1796.89$ after Rebate

you still have enough cash to buy a pizza or get a better chassis or even get a better sound card, or even for other extra charges, ok now on to the next build for AMD


EDIT: i just edit this one i forgot to put the PSU and that this has x2 gtx560ti 448 core in sli
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February 28, 2012 11:33:09 PM

Does anyone know how to get a Newegg wish list to appear public? I named mine "Comp2012" but it won't show on search. I've since renamed it to "Comp2012 we are all going to die this year." but still can't find it. Copying the link brings it to a page requiring a person to input security codes and login to Newegg first . . .
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February 28, 2012 11:36:26 PM

Tavo_Nova said:
many people here at toms will tell you to get an intel i5 2500k with your budget, actually if you were on a tight budget i would have recommended you the amd cpu but since you got a bigger manhood to uphold i really suggest you the i5 2500k intel build and even the x79 sandy bridge-e (i manage to build an old sb-e build using 3930K and now im using 3960X) and that 3930K build was at 19xx USD using dual gtx570, so lets see what i can come up with right now



Thanks man but I just don't think I can do Intel. I really don't want to go back to paying $4000 for a low end PC cause they dominate the market. If AMD goes under costs will go through the rough, we need to keep them in business. I've only build an Intel PC twice ever and its been AMD ever since. If I were video editing or video encoding or doing 3D design then the CPU might be more important but I have an AMD quadcore 955 processor now its and its been a good CPU (but I do less with it than previous machines). I was quite seriously looking at Intel SSD though but I think I'm gonna get the Samsung.

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February 28, 2012 11:58:33 PM

ahahaha some what you talk like my best bud, ok here i go make some amd build, it's similar to what i use for my lan party and testing, but imo its pretty solid but its a bulldozer one i also got a phenom II x6 1090t build up but lets put in some bulldozer. going to post it in a bit let me just find the stuff up newegg, oh and since i've used the build already and things are all compatible i believe you would be satisfied with the results, give me a min
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February 29, 2012 12:09:16 AM

It's beautiful what you're doing, but don't try to be the knight in shiny armor.
Each company traces it's own path. Please, careful think what's best for you.

If you thinks that changing from Intel and going for AMD will really change the tides, ok, do what you feel it's right. But if you have any doubt, think about YOU first, not in companies feeding their stockholders.
Nobody is saint in this holy history.. not the strong neither the weak
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February 29, 2012 12:18:02 AM

well lets just give our brother what he wants, ok i'm done, just going to edit this while i copy paste stuff and get the total on microsoft excel


ok here goes:

Processor: 249.99$
FX-8150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: 229.99$
ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: 39.99$ > free 8GB micro SDHC w/ Purchase, limited
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2X4GB) 1333 Mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Processing Unit: 269.99$>249.99$ after rebate x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Disk Drive: 179.99$
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Solid Slate Drive: 169399$
Corsair Force 3 120GB SATAIII 6Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: 34.99$
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: 219.99$
Seasonic Platinum 860W 80PLUS Platinum
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sound Card:49.99$
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Chassis: 129.99$
NZXT Phantom White/Red stripes
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: 1844.89$ before rebate
1804.89$ after rebate
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February 29, 2012 2:56:31 AM

Tavo_Nova said:
well lets just give our brother what he wants, ok i'm done, just going to edit this while i copy paste stuff and get the total on microsoft excel


ok here goes:

Processor: 249.99$
FX-8150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: 229.99$
ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: 39.99$ > free 8GB micro SDHC w/ Purchase, limited
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2X4GB) 1333 Mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics Processing Unit: 269.99$>249.99$ after rebate x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Disk Drive: 179.99$
Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 7200RPM 64MB Cache
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Solid Slate Drive: 169399$
Corsair Force 3 120GB SATAIII 6Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: 34.99$
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: 219.99$
Seasonic Platinum 860W 80PLUS Platinum
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sound Card:49.99$
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Chassis: 129.99$
NZXT Phantom White/Red stripes
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: 1844.89$ before rebate
1804.89$ after rebate



thanks for the suggestions, I'll probably pick up that CPU. I think you have chosen a better motherboard but since it has a soundblaster onboard chip what would the point of adding a cheap soundblaster card be?

Sorry I think that Chassis if fugly. I have certain requirments form a chassis - I wants space and lots of 3.5" slots, rubber grommets, silent, 2.5" slots, front ports, no side panel, quiet and large cooling fans, removable fan filters are nice, etc. I never find the perfect case though (using an Antec P182 right now and its a great case).

I'm migrating over other WD green hard drives and they have been very good performers, quiet and reliable. The black series I buy when I want better performance. In this case I'm just increasing my storage amount so going for most storage for cost (WD only).

I don't think I'd touch Corsair for an SSD years ago I had 2 ram chips from them - 1 failed and I had to RMA both of them. They sent me replacements and 6 months later 1 failed again. If it had only been one failure then I wouldn't hold it against a company but twice within a year? Plus I had to RMA both chips to them twice.

Patriot I also won't touch. I bought about 3 years ago a 2nd gen SSD drive. It worked for 7 days. I got an RMA but never put it back into my system. It was a $400 drive and the most expensive part in my pc. But in the end if you can't trust it you're not going to be running that as your primary drive.

120 GB SSD is too small I decided I needed 180GB or larger and preferably 256GB. It seems that the Intel is very reliable but the Samsung seems a better value and a very good performer too.

I think I may have to rethink my cooler based on your suggestion. Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO looks like a good choice.

I like Seasonic power supplies but over $200 seems a lot of money if I'm not running a monster graphics card or doing SLI, etc.

again thanks for the suggestions,
Stoddo
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February 29, 2012 3:12:09 AM

well for ssd you can check out intel they are great, look at those 180gb or 240gb ssd since you still have more extra on your budget, you can also look at 850w psu on either seasonic or corsair, suggested rate is 80plus gold, for ram try out g.skill, i use them on almost all my system and works awesome,

any blue black or green western digital is good, you can never go wrong with that brand, well any case is good, in case wise, i like the cooler master cosmos II but its personal preference, we got wide array of wonderful case, you can also aim for any 50$-100$ case or those at 150$-200$ which has more spacing, i'm glad i'm able to help.

i'll look around for nice ssd, so far i've only used corsair SSD and intel SSD, and i cacn say that intel ssd are awesome but i only had the 120gb type, im looking forward to getting my bigger intel ssds for my system too, they are great
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February 29, 2012 6:38:40 AM

vitornob said:
It's beautiful what you're doing, but don't try to be the knight in shiny armor.
Each company traces it's own path. Please, careful think what's best for you.

If you thinks that changing from Intel and going for AMD will really change the tides, ok, do what you feel it's right. But if you have any doubt, think about YOU first, not in companies feeding their stockholders.
Nobody is saint in this holy history.. not the strong neither the weak



Man I'm not trying to get into a debate, but. . . What do you think Intel would charge for a 2GHz processor if AMD was gone? Possibly TI or a Chinese chip manufacturer would start trying to sell CPUs. AMD is the good company that has saved us from having to pay 2, 3, 4 thousand for a CPU.

Competition is a good thing. AMD Is a good thing in the semiconductor market.
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February 29, 2012 7:12:33 AM

OK how about these questions:

1. any idea how to get Newegg wish list to show as public?????

2. for the ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ motherboard is the onboard sound better than a cheap soundblaster card?

3. my current computer has a good video card that I like but its a tad noisy. Its an XFX 4850 1GB. Should I just keep that card into the new build? Its kinda hard to compare new video cards to older ones once they drop of the charts. If a newer $150-$250 card can't beat the current card why change? I get about 30 fps in World of Tanks on 1920 x 1200 (most setting on high also) if that helps. If I could benchmark my current card to determine how it fits on the current charts, which benchmark and software?




Don't...
Bump posts
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/283384-33-read-first
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March 1, 2012 2:23:58 AM

Alright CMON U guys are smart. I'm hoping my setup will work fine. I need it for some serious anti-depression formula.

Here is what I have picked out (I know its a bit of mismatch with graphics card/processor and budget but I can always upgrade graphics + power supply later).

AMD FX-8150 CPU
ASUS Crosshair V 990FX mobo
Mushkin Blackline 4GB x 4 DDR 3 RAM
Fractal Design XL case
XFX 6870 video (seems OK but I don't want to add more noise or heat without serious research)
Silverstone 600 watt power supply (80 plus certified)
Samsung 830 SSD (256GB)
Western Digital 2TB green HD
Logitech MK550 wireless keyb/mouse
Enermax ETD T60 Silence CPU cooler
Win7 64bit home premium

any comments on my brand choices or ?
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