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Anonymous
February 24, 2005 3:32:10 AM

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MVP kicks absolute ass. I've played 10+ games on All Star mode and
Mattinglyfan's team of choice wiped the floor with my team of choice. I
skipped last year's game so I was amazed at all the animations. I was also
shocked at how hard they made it to make perfect pitches.

Only played 2 games of MLB, but it was enough to know I hate their
animations and the fielding view. I couldn't find a way to change the
fielding camera, so I turned it off. When I get time I'll run through the
manual to see if I missed an option. I also couldn't find a pitching method
(there were 3) that I enjoyed. The default one just takes too damn long to
throw the ball. Seems like it would take hours just to get through one game.
MLB easily has the best commentary in any baseball game I've ever played,
but they also appear to have the stupidest bat-on-ball sound ever too. Every
hit appears to crack the bat.

Both are online. MVP is lag-free, which is odd for the first month of an EA
sports release. I heard MLB was as well.

Skye

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Anonymous
February 24, 2005 3:32:11 AM

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just picked up MVP 2005 tonight. i've never played a baseball game on
the xbox, and the last one i played on a console was back with my old
sega genesis.

i assumed i'd have to take some 40 minute tutorial to become familiar
with all the intricacies, but no... it was ready to go and extremely
intuitive.

one thing i hadn't read about in online product descriptions was the
mini game modes and the homerun challenge. new to this genre, i didn't
assume they were standard fare. however, these "extras" are copy points
for the product description for MLB2k5... so for me, it was a bonus.

the game itself is pretty basic, but i really enjoy the customizable
nature. and the depth of how you can play the game is astounding. i do
assume both MVP and MLB offer such depth.

my only gripes so far are 1. the players look danged ugly! the inset
photos are very cool, but the animated players are... well,
neanderthal... 2. why no custom soundtrack? did i miss something? is
this not a simple thing to put in? i don't get it. and if i did miss
something, then i truly didn't get it.

overall, the game looks and plays better than i had ever hoped from a
baseball game. being a die-hard boston fan, i couldn't resist picking
this one up... and like Skye said, for $30 bucks, it feels like i stole
it.

(ironically, i went by a compusa to see if they had it... no, but they
had MVP 2004 for $19.99... is it me, or is that just too close to the
$29.99 price point of MVP 2005? i dunno)
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 4:06:22 AM

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"Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> MVP kicks absolute ass. I've played 10+ games on All Star mode and
> Mattinglyfan's team of choice wiped the floor with my team of choice. I
> skipped last year's game so I was amazed at all the animations. I was also
> shocked at how hard they made it to make perfect pitches.
>
> Only played 2 games of MLB, but it was enough to know I hate their
> animations and the fielding view. I couldn't find a way to change the
> fielding camera, so I turned it off. When I get time I'll run through the
> manual to see if I missed an option. I also couldn't find a pitching
method
> (there were 3) that I enjoyed. The default one just takes too damn long to
> throw the ball. Seems like it would take hours just to get through one
game.
> MLB easily has the best commentary in any baseball game I've ever played,
> but they also appear to have the stupidest bat-on-ball sound ever too.
Every
> hit appears to crack the bat.
>
> Both are online. MVP is lag-free, which is odd for the first month of an
EA
> sports release. I heard MLB was as well.
>
> Skye

The total for both games combined was the price of what is normally one
game. Can't really beat that.
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Anonymous
February 24, 2005 6:04:54 AM

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And they both support 720p this year. I think I am going with MLB 2k5
though.

HDTV games lists and discussions
http://www.hdtvarcade.com

"Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eg9Td.5487$Ba3.2109@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> MVP kicks absolute ass. I've played 10+ games on All Star mode and
> Mattinglyfan's team of choice wiped the floor with my team of choice. I
> skipped last year's game so I was amazed at all the animations. I was also
> shocked at how hard they made it to make perfect pitches.
>
> Only played 2 games of MLB, but it was enough to know I hate their
> animations and the fielding view. I couldn't find a way to change the
> fielding camera, so I turned it off. When I get time I'll run through the
> manual to see if I missed an option. I also couldn't find a pitching
> method
> (there were 3) that I enjoyed. The default one just takes too damn long to
> throw the ball. Seems like it would take hours just to get through one
> game.
> MLB easily has the best commentary in any baseball game I've ever played,
> but they also appear to have the stupidest bat-on-ball sound ever too.
> Every
> hit appears to crack the bat.
>
> Both are online. MVP is lag-free, which is odd for the first month of an
> EA
> sports release. I heard MLB was as well.
>
> Skye
>
>
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 6:08:46 AM

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ESPN doesn't support 720p this year. MVP does.


"Ollie T" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:qvbTd.37542$911.8541@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> And they both support 720p this year. I think I am going with MLB 2k5
> though.
>
> HDTV games lists and discussions
> http://www.hdtvarcade.com
>
> "Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eg9Td.5487$Ba3.2109@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > MVP kicks absolute ass. I've played 10+ games on All Star mode and
> > Mattinglyfan's team of choice wiped the floor with my team of choice. I
> > skipped last year's game so I was amazed at all the animations. I was
also
> > shocked at how hard they made it to make perfect pitches.
> >
> > Only played 2 games of MLB, but it was enough to know I hate their
> > animations and the fielding view. I couldn't find a way to change the
> > fielding camera, so I turned it off. When I get time I'll run through
the
> > manual to see if I missed an option. I also couldn't find a pitching
> > method
> > (there were 3) that I enjoyed. The default one just takes too damn long
to
> > throw the ball. Seems like it would take hours just to get through one
> > game.
> > MLB easily has the best commentary in any baseball game I've ever
played,
> > but they also appear to have the stupidest bat-on-ball sound ever too.
> > Every
> > hit appears to crack the bat.
> >
> > Both are online. MVP is lag-free, which is odd for the first month of an
> > EA
> > sports release. I heard MLB was as well.
> >
> > Skye
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 12:34:33 PM

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"Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ESPN doesn't support 720p this year. MVP does.


According to hdtvarcade they both support 720p
Anonymous
February 24, 2005 10:40:03 PM

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"Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> MVP kicks absolute ass. I've played 10+ games on All Star mode and
> Mattinglyfan's team of choice wiped the floor with my team of choice. I
> skipped last year's game so I was amazed at all the animations. I was also
> shocked at how hard they made it to make perfect pitches.

I picked it up as well when I was reserving my 3rd PSP and in the 3 games I
played, I got smoked by the chowds. The CPU hitters in All-Star difficulty
are ridiculously skilled and even my slider adjustments have not evened it
out so far. I just don't think I am going to pick up MLB this year even at
the discounted price. Everything I have seen on the MLB 2005 on PSP leads
me to believe that it will be my 2nd baseball game. On top of that, after
March 24th, my console gaming will probably be cut down significantly as
well.

Can you guys imagine being dragged somewhere stupid by the wife and still
being able to game with non-gameboy graphics? "Sure honey, I'll go to the
mall with you.", "Of course dear, I'd love to go to Bed Bath and Beyond",
"I'm getting ready for Church right now sweetheart".

>
> Only played 2 games of MLB, but it was enough to know I hate their
> animations and the fielding view. I couldn't find a way to change the
> fielding camera, so I turned it off. When I get time I'll run through the
> manual to see if I missed an option. I also couldn't find a pitching
> method
> (there were 3) that I enjoyed. The default one just takes too damn long to
> throw the ball. Seems like it would take hours just to get through one
> game.
> MLB easily has the best commentary in any baseball game I've ever played,
> but they also appear to have the stupidest bat-on-ball sound ever too.
> Every
> hit appears to crack the bat.
>
> Both are online. MVP is lag-free, which is odd for the first month of an
> EA
> sports release. I heard MLB was as well.
>
> Skye
>
>
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 12:24:42 AM

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"lighten up francis" <tellmeyou@loveme.please> wrote in message
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>
> "Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2zbTd.9834$x53.6217@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>> ESPN doesn't support 720p this year. MVP does.
>
>
> According to hdtvarcade they both support 720p
>
Appears that many more reports are coming in that MLB 2k5 is only 480p and
16:9. Seems the 720p support was pulled at the last moment. It had been
stated in many early reviews that the game supported 720p. Don't know what
happened. http://www.hdtvarcade.com also now reflects this change.
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 1:26:49 AM

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"lighten up francis" <tellmeyou@loveme.please> wrote in message
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>
> "Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2zbTd.9834$x53.6217@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > ESPN doesn't support 720p this year. MVP does.
>
>
> According to hdtvarcade they both support 720p

Just MVP.
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 7:53:12 AM

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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>
> "Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eg9Td.5487$Ba3.2109@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > MVP kicks absolute ass. I've played 10+ games on All Star mode and
> > Mattinglyfan's team of choice wiped the floor with my team of choice. I
> > skipped last year's game so I was amazed at all the animations. I was
also
> > shocked at how hard they made it to make perfect pitches.
>
> I picked it up as well when I was reserving my 3rd PSP and in the 3 games
I
> played, I got smoked by the chowds. The CPU hitters in All-Star
difficulty
> are ridiculously skilled and even my slider adjustments have not evened it
> out so far. I just don't think I am going to pick up MLB this year even
at
> the discounted price. Everything I have seen on the MLB 2005 on PSP leads
> me to believe that it will be my 2nd baseball game. On top of that, after
> March 24th, my console gaming will probably be cut down significantly as
> well.
>
> Can you guys imagine being dragged somewhere stupid by the wife and still
> being able to game with non-gameboy graphics? "Sure honey, I'll go to the
> mall with you.", "Of course dear, I'd love to go to Bed Bath and Beyond",
> "I'm getting ready for Church right now sweetheart".

I bumped down to Pro. I'll stay there until I start hitting better. I lose
so much on All Star because I can't hit on that setting yet. The only
sliders I've moved were for CPU and User baserunning speed. Bumped all of
them up to 5. There were just too many fast runners getting tossed out at
first on plays I think they'd be safe on in real life. That slight bump
fixed that problem.

The hitting mini-game is lots of fun and a great way to work on your
hitting.

As for the PSP, yeah, it's going to be great. I'm trading in MLB2K5 for
either MLB2006 PS2 or PSP. I'm leaning more towards PSP now since I've
already got the one baseball game I think I'll ever need on a console. If
MVP is this good on the PSP, then I'm going to start hemmorhaging money.

Skye
February 25, 2005 5:39:32 PM

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I only picked up MLB 2K5, and here are a few comments. I was not at all
bothered by the pitching interface - in fact I liked it quite a bit, and a
game didn't seem to take me any longer than any other video baseball game
I've played. I also like that I can customize the soundtrack and have
various songs play when players come up to bat, when a home team HR is hit,
and for other game events. I also like that I can select a clip of the song
so I get whatever part of the song I want (or all of it if I want that). I
played it on Rookie mode, and I think I will either adjust a few sliders or
move up to the next level as I am 3-0 after 3 games although my team is
considered one of the better teams in the game.

I haven't played online yet, so I can't offer much there.

Overall, I really like 2K5 - but I do wonder what MVP is like as well. Since
2K5 costs 30% less than MVP, I would need fairly substantial reasons to want
to switch. The 720 vs. 480 isn't a current factor as I don't yet have HDTV
capability. I did like MVP last year on my GameCube, but I thoughts I'd give
2K5 a shot this year and have been pleasantly pleased. Plus there is the
reward factor I feel toward a company that puts out a great game for under
$20. I know that trend only continue if they sell a bunch of games, so I
feel like I've done my part to support a trend I like.
Anonymous
February 25, 2005 11:40:10 PM

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MLB 2k5 has great hitting and pitching options. Plus, with the "speed up"
game setting, you can cut all the cinemas and speed through 9 innings really
quick.

MVP only offers 5 innings online in ranked games.

MLB 2k5 is the better game.


"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
> I only picked up MLB 2K5, and here are a few comments. I was not at all
> bothered by the pitching interface - in fact I liked it quite a bit, and a
> game didn't seem to take me any longer than any other video baseball game
> I've played. I also like that I can customize the soundtrack and have
> various songs play when players come up to bat, when a home team HR is
hit,
> and for other game events. I also like that I can select a clip of the
song
> so I get whatever part of the song I want (or all of it if I want that). I
> played it on Rookie mode, and I think I will either adjust a few sliders
or
> move up to the next level as I am 3-0 after 3 games although my team is
> considered one of the better teams in the game.
>
> I haven't played online yet, so I can't offer much there.
>
> Overall, I really like 2K5 - but I do wonder what MVP is like as well.
Since
> 2K5 costs 30% less than MVP, I would need fairly substantial reasons to
want
> to switch. The 720 vs. 480 isn't a current factor as I don't yet have HDTV
> capability. I did like MVP last year on my GameCube, but I thoughts I'd
give
> 2K5 a shot this year and have been pleasantly pleased. Plus there is the
> reward factor I feel toward a company that puts out a great game for under
> $20. I know that trend only continue if they sell a bunch of games, so I
> feel like I've done my part to support a trend I like.
>
>
>
February 26, 2005 2:46:38 PM

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"Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> MLB 2k5 has great hitting and pitching options. Plus, with the "speed up"
> game setting, you can cut all the cinemas and speed through 9 innings
> really
> quick.
>
> MVP only offers 5 innings online in ranked games.
>
> MLB 2k5 is the better game.
>

I had no idea MVP was limited in that way.

I was very happy with MLB 2K5, but I was curious about MVP...now I won't
even bother to check it out.
February 27, 2005 6:44:59 PM

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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>

> I picked it up as well when I was reserving my 3rd PSP and in the 3 games
> I played, I got smoked by the chowds.

Okay, if no one else is going to ask - I have to...

Your 3rd PSP? Are you buying gifts or are all these for you?
Anonymous
February 27, 2005 10:00:45 PM

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"WJM" <wjmuldowney@NOearthlinkSPAM.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
> news:afSdnVyLqLKVDYPfRVn-rg@comcast.com...
>>
>
>> I picked it up as well when I was reserving my 3rd PSP and in the 3 games
>> I played, I got smoked by the chowds.
>
> Okay, if no one else is going to ask - I have to...
>
> Your 3rd PSP? Are you buying gifts or are all these for you?
>

Myself, my wife and a going away present for a teacher that is leaving to be
a diplomat. I also may dip into my equity and grab a couple for investment
purposes on EBay.
Anonymous
February 28, 2005 11:09:34 PM

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Hi Skye,

After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm underwhelmed
so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The graphics
aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The animations
are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first base
on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough. The
meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which makes
this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.


"Skye" <carolinaconvicts2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eg9Td.5487$Ba3.2109@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> MVP kicks absolute ass. I've played 10+ games on All Star mode and
> Mattinglyfan's team of choice wiped the floor with my team of choice. I
> skipped last year's game so I was amazed at all the animations. I was also
> shocked at how hard they made it to make perfect pitches.
>
> Only played 2 games of MLB, but it was enough to know I hate their
> animations and the fielding view. I couldn't find a way to change the
> fielding camera, so I turned it off. When I get time I'll run through the
> manual to see if I missed an option. I also couldn't find a pitching
method
> (there were 3) that I enjoyed. The default one just takes too damn long to
> throw the ball. Seems like it would take hours just to get through one
game.
> MLB easily has the best commentary in any baseball game I've ever played,
> but they also appear to have the stupidest bat-on-ball sound ever too.
Every
> hit appears to crack the bat.
>
> Both are online. MVP is lag-free, which is odd for the first month of an
EA
> sports release. I heard MLB was as well.
>
> Skye
>
>
Anonymous
February 28, 2005 11:09:35 PM

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"Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Skye,
>
> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm underwhelmed
> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
> graphics
> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The animations
> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
> base
> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough.
> The
> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which makes
> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
>
>

Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY major
gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes. Amateurs.
Anonymous
March 1, 2005 1:12:40 PM

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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>
> "Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:reScndeB_qQCXb7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Hi Skye,
>>
>> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm
>> underwhelmed
>> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
>> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
>> graphics
>> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The
>> animations
>> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
>> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
>> base
>> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough.
>> The
>> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
>> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
>> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which makes
>> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
>>
>>
>
> Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY
> major gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes.
> Amateurs.
>

so you're required to like a certain game more than another because "major
gaming site reviewers" gave it a higher score

got it
Anonymous
March 1, 2005 1:41:30 PM

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I have to agree with you 100%, last year MVP was my choice for baseball and
the sound, presentation, graphics and animations blew away ESPN baseball.
This year with the overhaul of MLB 2K5 baseball, it seems that MVP is the
rather dull game. MVP plays a very good game of baseball as so does MLB 2K5,
but MVP loses in graphics, presentation and even online play. MVP has a
slight delay in control online, offline it's much more responsive. Also MVP
has no online leagues and ranked games are 5 innings. Player models look
like children with adult heads and fan faces are way off on most players
that are not stars. Both games are really good and picking both up for $50
is a steal. It's just that MLB 2K5 has most of my attention for now because
it's new and gorgeous, let's see how long this relationship lasts...

Classic Collector <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Skye,
>
> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm underwhelmed
> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
graphics
> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The animations
> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
base
> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough.
The
> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which makes
> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
Anonymous
March 1, 2005 4:04:21 PM

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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:25:14 -0700, "Mattinglyfan"
<Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote:
>Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY major
>gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes. Amateurs.
>

Why so defensive? It sounded like a balanced opinion to me... he
bought both games, so he shouldn't be biased. Do you care to address
his issues point by point? They sounded valid. *shrug*

Anyway, I stood for about 10 minutes in Best Buy yesterday with MLB in
one hand and MVP in the other... none of the reviews I've read were a
slam dunk either way, so I went for MLB (even though there's a Yankee
on the cover) because it's cheaper. What little I've played so far
seems good, the real test will come online. The last baseball game I
played was Hardball 5, so I'm sure either one would blow me away :) 

The best part so far was when the announcer said, at the beginning of
the obligatory Red Sox/Yankees game, "The Yankees are still reeling
after blowing a 3-0 lead in last year's ALCS." Music to my ears.

I predict the exclusive rights that have been bought up (NFL by EA and
MLB by 2K) will cause a downward spiral in the each game not to be
fixed until the contracts expire.
Anonymous
March 1, 2005 9:46:08 PM

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"The Other John" <spamblock@blockit.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:25:14 -0700, "Mattinglyfan"
> <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote:
>>Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY
>>major
>>gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes. Amateurs.
>>
>
> Why so defensive? It sounded like a balanced opinion to me... he
> bought both games, so he shouldn't be biased. Do you care to address
> his issues point by point? They sounded valid. *shrug*

Well his first point was that MLB's graphics look better. There is no way
for me to address that other than to point a 3rd party to a site like IGN or
Gamespot where they rank the graphics as part of their ranking and both of
those give the edge to MVP. He said the sound is horrible and once again,
all I can do is refer him to other gaming sites because that is a matter of
opinion. I have played 30+ games of MVP and have never seen the players
freeze in mid air the way he described. Finally, saying that a game not
being Live aware makes it like a 1st generation Xbox game seemed fairly
ridiculous to me but that is once again his opinion. My comment was more
along the lines of sarcasm of the fact that he didn't really say anything
tremendously wrong with MVP and not MLB was superior. The fact of the
matter is that MVP is a higher ranked game this year. What he said was his
opinion about the game and I stated mine in terms of the reviewers not
agreeing with him.
.
Anonymous
March 1, 2005 9:48:18 PM

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"juwanna" <yippy@ymail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>> news:reScndeB_qQCXb7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Hi Skye,
>>>
>>> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm
>>> underwhelmed
>>> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
>>> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
>>> graphics
>>> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The
>>> animations
>>> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
>>> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
>>> base
>>> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough.
>>> The
>>> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
>>> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
>>> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which
>>> makes
>>> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY
>> major gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes.
>> Amateurs.
>>
>
> so you're required to like a certain game more than another because "major
> gaming site reviewers" gave it a higher score
>
> got it
>

Uhhh, what was your last comprehension grade level on a standardized test?
I don't know where you got that someone is REQUIRED to like something from
the fact that I pointed out that the reviewers don't agree with his
assessment of MLB's graphical and gameplay superiority. Plain and simple.


Got it?
Anonymous
March 2, 2005 2:13:38 AM

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"juwanna" <yippy@ymail.com> wrote in message
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> "Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
> news:vuadneCzPccST77fRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> > news:reScndeB_qQCXb7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> >> Hi Skye,
> >>
> >> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm
> >> underwhelmed
> >> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
> >> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
> >> graphics
> >> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The
> >> animations
> >> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for
a
> >> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
> >> base
> >> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy
enough.
> >> The
> >> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
> >> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
> >> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which
makes
> >> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY
> > major gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes.
> > Amateurs.
> >
>
> so you're required to like a certain game more than another because "major
> gaming site reviewers" gave it a higher score
>
> got it

Played both a ton, and will be dumping MLB2K5 as soon as MLB 2006 from 989
comes out. It's a lousy first effort by Kush.

Skye
Anonymous
March 2, 2005 7:06:42 PM

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In article <vuadneCzPccST77fRVn-gQ@comcast.com>,
Estoscacahuates@comcast.netdeeznuts says...
>
>
>"Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>news:reScndeB_qQCXb7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Hi Skye,
>>
>> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm underwhelmed
>> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
>> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
>> graphics
>> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The animations
>> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
>> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
>> base
>> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough.
>> The
>> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
>> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
>> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which makes
>> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
>>
>>
>
>Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY major
>gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes. Amateurs.
>
>

Settle down guys. All the baseball games got good reviews this year.
Anonymous
March 2, 2005 11:01:43 PM

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"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
news:mwlVd.1917$8k2.1190@fed1read03...
> In article <vuadneCzPccST77fRVn-gQ@comcast.com>,
> Estoscacahuates@comcast.netdeeznuts says...
>>
>>
>>"Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>news:reScndeB_qQCXb7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Hi Skye,
>>>
>>> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm
>>> underwhelmed
>>> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
>>> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
>>> graphics
>>> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The
>>> animations
>>> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
>>> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
>>> base
>>> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough.
>>> The
>>> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
>>> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
>>> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which
>>> makes
>>> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY
>>major
>>gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes. Amateurs.
>>
>>
>
> Settle down guys. All the baseball games got good reviews this year.
>

I am not bashing any game. I just hate when people feel the need to trash a
game because they like another.
Anonymous
March 3, 2005 6:03:02 PM

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In article <kIydnW8xmuyD47vfRVn-tw@comcast.com>,
Estoscacahuates@comcast.netdeeznuts says...
>
>
>"MS#1Fanboy-JoJo" <jojo@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:mwlVd.1917$8k2.1190@fed1read03...
>> In article <vuadneCzPccST77fRVn-gQ@comcast.com>,
>> Estoscacahuates@comcast.netdeeznuts says...
>>>
>>>
>>>"Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
>>>news:reScndeB_qQCXb7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>>> Hi Skye,
>>>>
>>>> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm
>>>> underwhelmed
>>>> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
>>>> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
>>>> graphics
>>>> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The
>>>> animations
>>>> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
>>>> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
>>>> base
>>>> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough.
>>>> The
>>>> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
>>>> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
>>>> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which
>>>> makes
>>>> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY
>>>major
>>>gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes. Amateurs.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Settle down guys. All the baseball games got good reviews this year.
>>
>
>I am not bashing any game. I just hate when people feel the need to trash a
>game because they like another.
>
>
I wasn't jumping you. Just pointing out that you can't really go wrong this
year with any of the games.
March 4, 2005 7:02:13 PM

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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>
> "Classic Collector" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:reScndeB_qQCXb7fUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Hi Skye,
>>
>> After loving MLB 2k5 for a few days I picked up MVP 2005. I'm
>> underwhelmed
>> so far. The commentary is the worst I've ever heard, is boring, and the
>> atmosphere is way too quiet and doesn't feel like an MLB game. The
>> graphics
>> aren't as good as MLB either, the players seem a bit pudgy. The
>> animations
>> are slightly better than ESPN, but players often freeze in mid air for a
>> second before an animation starts, such as when getting close to first
>> base
>> on a close play. The pitching meter is cool, and batting is easy enough.
>> The
>> meter when throwing a ball after fielding it is ridiculous though. The
>> soundtrack is absolutely horrid, and the online component only allows 5
>> innings for a ranked game. The game is also not "live aware", which makes
>> this feel more like a first generation Xbox game.
>>
>>
>
> Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY
> major gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes.
> Amateurs.
>

Reviewers are just people with opinions. I've reviewed quite a few books and
CDs for local magazines, and that doesn't make my opinion on books or CDs
any more valid or correct than yours (assuming you read and listen to
music). It MAY mean I can put my thoughts together well and explain my
opinion in an entertaining way (Those who have read my reviews might argue
that poiunt vehemently.) In the end, an opinion is an opinion.

And...a few major sights have ranked ESPN higher.

And...even those who ranked MVP higher had it only slightly higher than ESPN
(and vice versa).
Anonymous
March 5, 2005 10:29:40 PM

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So this is my first post here, anyway... I had MVP 2004 last year and
thought it was great, except for the annoying repeated lines of the
announce team, except for the annoying repeated lines of the announce
team except for... heh heh , anyway, so this year I decided what the
hell Ill buy both they are both cheap and both add up to 1 at last
years price.

Basically heres my OPINION. And I hate when people argue or get
defensive about games they think is or is not better, its just a ****
game...

Basically I like Mlb2k5 better this year due to the entire feeling, or
experience of the game, yeah maybe the graphics are a tiny bit less
stunning than MVP, but the atmosphere, the announce team, what it comes
down to for me is this... Mlb2k5 is like when you are at home watching a
baseball game on ESPN and are really into the game and wish you were the
manager, a player, a fan at the game, you really get into it, and with
MLB2k5 you have the closest way to achieve that I guess "Fantasy".

MVP is great graphically, maybe has a few less bugs, hell I even think
their representation of Angels Stadiums Waterfalls are better than
MLB2k5, but I dont get that same feeling of being part of a real
baseball experience as I do with MLB2k5. It seems boring to me, and the
constant way EA gets paid to promote the music they place on the games
when the music is way off, its just as bad with Fight Night Round 2,
the music plugging makes me sick, and does not go well with the game.

Saying That... Go Angels..... Even though calling themselves "THE LOS
ANGELES ANGELS OF ANAHEIM" make me sick to my stomach.


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Anonymous
March 10, 2005 8:57:29 PM

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"Mattinglyfan" <Estoscacahuates@comcast.net (deez nuts)> wrote in message
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>
> "juwanna" <yippy@ymail.com> wrote in message
>>> Wow, all those faults and MVP somehow managed to outrank MLB on EVERY
>>> major gaming site. I guess you can't account for reviewers' tastes.
>>> Amateurs.
>>>
>>
>> so you're required to like a certain game more than another because
>> "major gaming site reviewers" gave it a higher score
>>
>> got it
>>
>
> Uhhh, what was your last comprehension grade level on a standardized test?
> I don't know where you got that someone is REQUIRED to like something from
> the fact that I pointed out that the reviewers don't agree with his
> assessment of MLB's graphical and gameplay superiority. Plain and simple.
>
>
> Got it?

"pointed out" lol

you basically chastised the guy for not agreeing with "professional
reviewers"

so yes, apparently we are required to like "higher-rated" games lest we be
subjected to needlessly sarcastic, inexplicably defensive replies from
someone like you
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 4:39:45 PM

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MLB 2K5 is a borderline joke. Attempting to hit the ball with 'true
aim', on All-Star difficulty, is almost impossible. You're lucky to
score four runs. The arcade mode, where it goes in slow motion and you
have to bash your controller as fast you can, is even more ridiculous.

Baseball is still the one sport game developers haven't figured out.
They're almost all incredibly inaccurate.

I haven't played MVP so I won't comment on it.
!