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February 29, 2012 8:30:29 PM

This is going to be my first custom rig I'm going to build myself been using apple products for about 5 years and want to make a switch back to windows. I really dont have a clue where to start but luckily looking around here I have learned alot so it seems. Here is what I'm thinking of doing.

Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor $199 if I order today fro Nxix so its gonna most likely be 224.

MSI P67A-G45 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $132 with a 30 dollar mail in rebate was gonna do the Asrock but not sure the differences

G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory $41.99

Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $98.99 Is this enough? too much?


Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case $169.99 (Im open to other cases as well I like a fun side view that shows off the inside)Power Supply

Power Supply Cooler Master 600W ATX12V Power Supply $74.98 (and a mail in rebate for 20)

Optical Drive LG GH22NS90B DVD/CD Writer $17.99 (This would get the job down, I dont really burn cds or dvds)

Monitor Asus VH232H 23.0" Monitor $159.99 (Since I'm on a macbook right now Id need a nice monitor and Ive been using a 13" for the last two eyars so this jump would prolly be the perfect amount $15 dollar rebate)

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $99.99

Keyboard Logitech G19 Wired Standard Keyboard $160.56 (Not sold on this one I just love the heads up display on the keyboard, My friend had one similiar a few years back but dont think he paid this much)

Razer Naga Wired Laser Mouse $79.99 (I pvp alot and would love to have a good mouse with lots of buttons, I worry that it would be overwhelming though :ouch:  )

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5euI (is the link to all the parts prices as well)

Haven't decided on a Graphics card yet wanted the best fit for the needs I want.

My goals for this pc is 1 Have fun, enjoy and feel like I got a great bang for my buck. 2. Play BF, Old Republic, Wow on Ultra settings with 60+ FPS with no spikes screen tears or anything. 3. I want it to be able to last running the latest and greatest game for atleast the next 2-3 years. I want it to be a fun learning experience. I don't really know how to build it myself I talked to the owner of a Custom PC store that does alot of customs and he would only charge 90 for the assembly and install. I just would be afraid I would mess things up and ruin something and losing money :( . What warranties should I be looking for as well.

Thanks in advance, I hope to learn and pay it forward to others :) 



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February 29, 2012 8:59:54 PM

Lostguy said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Or should I take adavantage of the shell shocker and save the 40 for the deal then 30 in a mail in rebate sounds like an amazing deal.


I would not go for the Force 3 - it's not the best NAND drive out there - go with a Crucial M4, Samsung 830, or Plextor PX-M3 instead - those may a bit more expensive but they're built to last.

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MSI P67A-G45 (B3) ATX LGA1155 Motherboard $132 with a 30 dollar mail in rebate was gonna do the Asrock but not sure the differences


I'd personally go for Asrock over MSI - I've never had good experiences with MSI. But I'd be more inclined to recommend this over both of those: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Keyboard Logitech G19 Wired Standard Keyboard $160.56 (Not sold on this one I just love the heads up display on the keyboard, My friend had one similiar a few years back but dont think he paid this much)


Unless you're playing 25 minute piano solos you don't need a keyboard with an HUD. :lol: 

IMO $150 on a keyboard and $70 on a mouse is a huge waste on a build. I'd put that into getting the best GPU you can get for the money - that's what will really make the difference. Get that first, get the expensive peripherals later.

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Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $98.99 Is this enough? too much?


There's no such thing as too much storage space, IMO. You can always add or remove drives later.

Nothing beats an SSD for your boot drive - but you can always get one later.

This would be the best bang for your buck right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Corsair 600T White Graphite ATX Mid Tower Case $169.99 (Im open to other cases as well I like a fun side view that shows off the inside)Power Supply


Good choice but I'd recommend taking a look at the slimmer Carbide 500R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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Haven't decided on a Graphics card yet wanted the best fit for the needs I want.


That depends on what you want to spend. The insanely expensive peripherals you have are kind of a waste on the initial part of the build - get the best GPU you can get for the money, that will ensure a system as future-proof as you can get right now. The cream of the crop right now are the Radeon 7950 and the Radeon 7970. A superclocked GTX 580 like the ones offered from EVGA and PNY will not match but come close to matching the 7970 right now.

Good mid-range GPUs are the 560TI, 570TI, and Radeon 6970 if you can find one.
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February 29, 2012 9:07:17 PM

Lets just take the Periherals out for now. Lets Just say I go with the logitech for 70 and the mouse for 50 so thats 130 half of what it was. I was looking at the 570 Cards as well I was thinkign 300-400 for graphics card. I wasn't sold on that case either I was even debating on this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... It drops the price down as well.
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February 29, 2012 9:50:14 PM

Lostguy said:
Lets just take the Periherals out for now. Lets Just say I go with the logitech for 70 and the mouse for 50 so thats 130 half of what it was. I was looking at the 570 Cards as well I was thinkign 300-400 for graphics card. I wasn't sold on that case either I was even debating on this one http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... It drops the price down as well.


I'm not the biggest fan of that case - I like Cooler Master cases and I use and really like the HAF 912 - I'm just not a fan of that design. Stick with the Corsair but you should definitely take a look at the Carbide: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I still have a hard time even spending $130 on peripherals - I just use the cheapest ones I can get - a standard XBOX controller is all you really need anymore for most modern games (though BF3 doesn't take advantage of it). If you're considering a 570, if you take that money you'd be spending on peripherals you could upgrade your GPU to a 580 or a 7950. I look at it that way.
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February 29, 2012 10:01:26 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5eFp

I started over check that case and let me know what you think. My buddy swears by spinpoint drives. I dont know ive used western for external and internals
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February 29, 2012 10:03:19 PM

I liked the 2 Tera you linked and its only 20 dollars more, so seems like double the product for a quarter of the cost.
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February 29, 2012 11:04:35 PM

Lostguy said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5eIT Is the lastest one i came up with trying to get the most bang for my buck :) 


That looks like a better build but I don't get why you'd go from a 1TB hard drive (although the previous model was a laptop drive - you're better off using a 3.5" desktop drive) to a 250GB hard drive - seems like a huge downgrade to me. The Samsung Spinpoint drives are some of the best on the market, IMO - I use the same one and it's been rock solid.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5ePh Ok or this one cheaper graphic card.


Whoa - that build is *WAY* mis-matched. You're using a micro ATX board (which I wouldn't on a full tower system), triple channel RAM (no no on a dual channel system), and a lot of laptop-specific components like the hard drive.
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February 29, 2012 11:16:01 PM

If you want a bang-for-buck system go with this:

Case: Fractal Design Arc MIDI - $99.99
PSU: Corsair TX650 V2 - $89.99 ($15.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3H - $159.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500K - $229.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 - $34.99
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 1600MHz 1.5V - $44.99
HD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $159.99
Optical: LG DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 560TI - $249.99 ($15.00 MIR)

Total: $1,083.91 - $30.00 MIR = $1,053.91

With this build - every thing is compatible - there's no micro ATX or laptop specific hardware to deal with, everything works great and there will be 0 installation headaches.
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February 29, 2012 11:44:47 PM

Hey bro, this guy knows what he's talking about ;) 

Just wanted to let you know that I bought a brand new 6950 (Which is flashable to a 6970 spec) but I decided to buy myself a 7970, and I can't give mine back... I can sell mine to you for $250 obo man :)  2GB version too! Definitely better for bang for buck.

And I'm also a die-hard mac fan and I tried building my first PC. I struggled SO much due t incompatibility. I spent over $3000 on $1000 worth of parts! So ALWAYS ask these guys here if it's compatible. Also try installing it yourself. You have to be mentally retarded not to fail at installing the parts yourself, and you have more street cred PLUS its SO much fun! You got warranties on like everything, so if something breaks, so what? Wait a week and try again! Trust me. You won't appreciate your PC as much as you would building it yourself.

-Starxx
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March 1, 2012 1:03:11 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5f8k

Alright I tweaked what you suggested some. I found a case I like thats sleek and has great airflow. I changed the ram not sure what the difference in the rams are. Is 650 power source good enough? Also any ways to shave fat down on this would be great if not I feel like im almost ready to order!
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March 1, 2012 2:42:25 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5ePh

I just saw this on forums and wanted to know what fps on ultra for games for BF Star Wars and Wow would be Im about to order this stuff this weekend. I just need solid confidence in all the techs here.
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March 1, 2012 2:48:23 AM

Lostguy said:
Just had a buddy of mine redirect me to this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thoughts and feed back. THanks so much for all the help so far really is great that everyone is helpful here and doesnt troll the forums.


Don't get a refurbished card - you will not be able to get service and support for it. It's an OK choice for sure but refurbs are bad news.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5f8k


Alright I tweaked what you suggested some. I found a case I like thats sleek and has great airflow. I changed the ram not sure what the difference in the rams are. Is 650 power source good enough? Also any ways to shave fat down on this would be great if not I feel like im almost ready to order!


OK that's way better but that Gigabyte board I linked to earlier will be far better than the P67.
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March 1, 2012 2:59:32 AM

Ya the tera was bugged I had it but its fixed now

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/

Anyway we can shave about 100-200 off this? and still get 2-3 years of use and able to run everythign out with Ultra Graphics
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March 1, 2012 3:02:29 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5fll

Actually there is the one I built on there earlier I got so many saved with stuff all different. So much to track lol. I really liked the case is why i picked that case had a nice modern look lots of room.
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March 1, 2012 4:09:05 AM

Lostguy said:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/5fll

Actually there is the one I built on there earlier I got so many saved with stuff all different. So much to track lol. I really liked the case is why i picked that case had a nice modern look lots of room.


You definitely can't go wrong with the Phantom - excellent case choice. This is probably the best out of all the ones so fa.
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March 1, 2012 4:34:00 AM

Anything you would change up. I mean if I could save a hundred or so that be nice but im content with this one as long as it all works.
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March 1, 2012 4:39:05 AM

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... SOme guy sent me this comparing it to the one i have thoughts on that as well. I feel so like over cautious on all this just because spending so much money and feel like buying a good computer is a waste but it will last adn tons of enjoyment from it. Like Idk i feel i could piss away the money on littler stuff but no value so idk just being super picky and researching alot.
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March 1, 2012 7:31:00 PM

Lostguy said:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... SOme guy sent me this comparing it to the one i have thoughts on that as well. I feel so like over cautious on all this just because spending so much money and feel like buying a good computer is a waste but it will last adn tons of enjoyment from it. Like Idk i feel i could piss away the money on littler stuff but no value so idk just being super picky and researching alot.


I'd seriously hesitate to recommend pre-builts - upgrading them is some times near impossible and that video card is seriously underpowered. Pre-builts include lots of proprietary and watered down hardware, lack the ability to overclock, and most of the time include junk power supplies. It's way better to build your own.
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March 1, 2012 8:24:21 PM

CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core $179.99
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing $29.33
Motherboard ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3 ATX LGA1155 $158.49
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $46.99
Hard Drive Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $167.27
Video Card EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB $234.99
Case NZXT Phantom (White/Red) ATX Full Tower $129.99
Power Supply Corsair 650W ATX12V / EPS12V $74.99
Optical Drive Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer $18.98
Monitor Asus VH232H 23.0" $153.98
Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) $99.99

So this is what I should go with
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March 5, 2012 5:28:28 PM

Best answer selected by Lostguy.
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