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March 1, 2012 5:33:17 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: Monday March 5th

Budget Range: $2500 max, would like to come under budget if possible.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Video Editing, CS5.5 Production Suite

Parts Not Required: OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Any

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: GPU Nvidea, Intel Processor

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution:1920x1080, possible upgrade to 2560x1600 at some point

This is what I have picked out so far. I would like to cut it to under $2500 if possible.
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

CPU: i7-2600k $325
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 $205
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTX 580 3GB $560
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.Skill Ares 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 $150**
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: OCZ ZX 1000w 80PLUS Gold $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Thermaltake Chaser MK-I Full Tower $160
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD: OCZ Revodrive 3 series 120 GB PCIe $400
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: 2x Hitachi Deskstar 7200 RPM 3GB/s 2TB $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO $35*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

***

Monitor: Dell UltraSharp U2212HM 21.5" 8ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with LED $240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Newegg Subtotal $2,614.89


Any feedback and suggestions would be awesome! Thanks in advance! :D 

*(edited to the evo from the plus)
**(changed to 16GB from 32GB, changed to G.Skill Ares)
***(removed Arctic Silver 5)
March 1, 2012 6:05:43 PM

Looks pretty good. I would make the changes below and call it good...

MEM - Skip the tall heat spreaders. They can impeed air flow and get in the way of some aftermarket CPU coolers.
G.SKILL Ares 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3-1600 CL10 1.5v - $300


CPU Cooler - The Hyper 212 EVO replaced the 212+
Hyper 212 EVO - $35
Optional 2nd CPU Cooler Fan - CM Blade Master 120mm - $12

PSU - Stick with Antec, Corsiar, XFX or Seasonic...
XFX ProSeries 1050w Gold - $220 after MIR

HD - The Samsung F4 will perform better than the Hitachi drives.
Samsung F4 2TB - $160

Thermal Compound - The Hyper 212 will come with some. No need to buy...
March 1, 2012 6:36:44 PM

Looks like a good build.
Ditto on Sadams' suggestions. I would however grab a few slightly different parts.
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Made by Superflower, very high quality. If you're going to get a 1000w PSU (Which is WAY overkill by the way) might as well get the best, 80+ Platinum.
-Might I ask why the Revodrive? Their performance isn't leaps and bounds higher than Sata drives but their costs are. I would prefer a Samsung 830 SSD.
-Depending on how high you want to overclock, the $90 Noctua DH-14 is an option. It's significantly more expensive however. I second the suggestion for a dual-fan Hyper 212 EVO.
-Not sure what you'll be doing in CS5.5 but a GTX 570 may provide the horsepower necessary for a much lower cost. Just an option.
-Do you need 32GB of RAM? As I understand it, 16GB is plenty for video production. You're the expert though OP.
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March 1, 2012 6:59:41 PM

striker410 said:
Looks like a good build.
Ditto on Sadams' suggestions. I would however grab a few slightly different parts.
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Made by Superflower, very high quality. If you're going to get a 1000w PSU (Which is WAY overkill by the way) might as well get the best, 80+ Platinum.
-Might I ask why the Revodrive? Their performance isn't leaps and bounds higher than Sata drives but their costs are. I would prefer a Samsung 830 SSD.
-Depending on how high you want to overclock, the $90 Noctua DH-14 is an option. It's significantly more expensive however. I second the suggestion for a dual-fan Hyper 212 EVO.
-Not sure what you'll be doing in CS5.5 but a GTX 570 may provide the horsepower necessary for a much lower cost. Just an option.
-Do you need 32GB of RAM? As I understand it, 16GB is plenty for video production. You're the expert though OP.



I didn't look at lot at SATA SSD's but are their numbers comparable to this? I'm just curious, because I'm no expert at all on SSD's.

Max Sequential Read
Up to 975 MB/s
Max Sequential Write
Up to 875 MB/s
4KB Random Write
Up to 120,000 IOPS


From what I understood CS5 could eat up as much RAM as you give it, so I just figured go for the highest. And since RAM is relatively inexpensive now I just maxed out what I could ever get with this set up anyway.

The 1000w is way over my needed yes (approx draw was 650w or so). But it runs at peak efficiency when it is under 50% load which is what I was shooting for. I didn't even look at the platinum ones since I assumed the price jump was considerable, but I guess not.

I need to cut $200 out of the system anyway, so I may have to go with the normal SSD.

March 1, 2012 7:10:55 PM

Capt_Mctavish37 said:
I need to cut $200 out of the system anyway, so I may have to go with the normal SSD.


The Samsung 830 series that Striker suggested or the Corsair M4 series are the ones I would choose between. They won't be as fast as the advertised speeds of the RevoDrive, but they are still fast.

MEM - Maybe go with 16gb (2x8GB) now and leave the option to upgrade open. Memory will probably stay cheap for a while to come.
March 1, 2012 7:20:57 PM

sadams04 said:
The Samsung 830 series that Striker suggested or the Corsair M4 series are the ones I would choose between. They won't be as fast as the advertised speeds of the RevoDrive, but they are still fast.

MEM - Maybe go with 16gb (2x8GB) now and leave the option to upgrade open. Memory will probably stay cheap for a while to come.

I second this. If you take a look at this (60GB, I know. Still offers good representation) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-60gb-benchmark-... you'll see the Samsung 830 excels at moving uncompressed files, like video and audio.
March 1, 2012 7:52:52 PM

striker410 said:
I second this. If you take a look at this (60GB, I know. Still offers good representation) http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-60gb-benchmark-... you'll see the Samsung 830 excels at moving uncompressed files, like video and audio.



Yeah I saw that. I should explain this too, I plan on importing the footage onto the SSD, and then writing to the 2 HDD (they will be in Raid 0) So the SSD will be primarily for OS, CS5.5 program itself, and then the large writes, not the large reads so much. Don't know if that changes a whole lot or not.

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March 1, 2012 8:37:55 PM
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It's always nice to have the option to add up to 64GB of RAM. That case down below is pretty new on the market and it comes with multiple fan controllers, dust filters, front 3.0 USB ports, SSD bracket, 200mm side fan, etc.... it has it all. That XFX psu is manufactured by Seasonic...it's top of the line, and the Asrock X79 just won Best Value Award here on Toms. If video and photo editing is your game, it's tough to beat an LGA2011 set up.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Carbide-Tower-Gaming-CC-9... $119.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011012-WW

http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO1050W-Compatible-Certified... $215.78 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
XFX PRO1050W Black Edition Full Modular 80PLUS Gold PSU Compatible with Intel Core i3, i5, i7 and AMD Phenom, FX ATX 1050 Energy Star Certified Power Supply P11050BEFX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $249.99
ASRock X79 Extreme6 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=X79%20Extre... <----- more on that board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $319.99
Intel Core i7-3820 Sandy Bridge-E 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 2011 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73820

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r... <----- review/benchmarks of that cpu

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-RR-212E-2... $35.34 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

or...

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Aluminum-Copper-RR-... $46.53
COOLER MASTER RR-H612-20PK-R1 120mm Sleeve Hyper 612 PWM CPU Cooler

Add this fan down below to either one of those CM cpu h/s for a "push - pull" effect lower cpu temps.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-BladeMaster-Silent-... $10.17 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $239.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-1333C9Q-32GAO

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $144.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Mini-HDMI-Lifetime-Warranty-... $549.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
EVGA GeForce GTX 580 3072 MB GDDR5 PCB PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Limited Lifetime Warranty Graphics Card, 03G-P3-1584-AR
March 2, 2012 4:55:29 PM

So I decided to go with the X79 system, it made sense to have the RAM upgradable to 32GB, and the extra channels to PCIe 3.0 for down the road.
This is the new list of components based on all your recommendations. I had to go with 16GB of RAM for now to keep it under $2,500. If there is any other way to drop the price a little bit that would be awesome, thanks.

MOBO: ASRock X79 Extreme6/GB $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: i7-3820 $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTX 580 3072MB 2DVI/1Mini HDMI $550 (Considering the 570 so I can get a mini displayport)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YJVUBG/ref=ox_sc_a...

PSU: Kingwin LZP 1000 80PLUS Platinum $230
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752QXP2/ref=ox_sc_a...

RAM: G.SKILL Ares 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 $135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower $120
(I like the case but would prefer the space of a full tower. This one does have 8 rear expansion slots though)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005E983JW/ref=ox_sc_a...

SSD: Samsung 830 128GB Sata III $185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: 2x Samsung EcoGreen F4 5400RPM 2TB 32MB cache $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212EVO $35
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a...

Extra Fan: Cooler Master Blademaster 120mm $10
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0030DL37I/ref=ox_sc_a...

Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp 21.5" U2212HM LED LCD $202
http://www.buy.com/listing/sellerlistings.asp?sku=22417...

Subtotal=$2400

(The only items costing me shipping are the motherboard and the two HDD. $13 in shipping)
Any more suggestions, tips and criticism would be great lol! :D 
March 2, 2012 5:12:42 PM

Looks beautiful.
March 2, 2012 5:15:20 PM

Capt_Mctavish37 said:
So I decided to go with the X79 system, it made sense to have the RAM upgradable to 32GB, and the extra channels to PCIe 3.0 for down the road.
This is the new list of components based on all your recommendations. I had to go with 16GB of RAM for now to keep it under $2,500. If there is any other way to drop the price a little bit that would be awesome, thanks.

MOBO: ASRock X79 Extreme6/GB $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: i7-3820 $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA GTX 580 3072MB 2DVI/1Mini HDMI $550 (Considering the 570 so I can get a mini displayport)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004YJVUBG/ref=ox_sc_a...

PSU: Kingwin LZP 1000 80PLUS Platinum $230
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00752QXP2/ref=ox_sc_a...

RAM: G.SKILL Ares 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 $135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 500R Mid Tower $120
(I like the case but would prefer the space of a full tower. This one does have 8 rear expansion slots though)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005E983JW/ref=ox_sc_a...

SSD: Samsung 830 128GB Sata III $185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: 2x Samsung EcoGreen F4 5400RPM 2TB 32MB cache $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212EVO $35
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a...

Extra Fan: Cooler Master Blademaster 120mm $10
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0030DL37I/ref=ox_sc_a...

Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp 21.5" U2212HM LED LCD $202
http://www.buy.com/listing/sellerlistings.asp?sku=22417...

Subtotal=$2400

(The only items costing me shipping are the motherboard and the two HDD. $13 in shipping)
Any more suggestions, tips and criticism would be great lol! :D 

Lose the Kingwin psu...it's an over priced paperweight. That XFX psu I posted is manufactured by Seasonic for XFX ...Seasonic manufactures all of Corsair's mid and upper tier psu's also. But that Kingwin has to go.

Also that Mushkin SSD I posted is cheaper than the Samsung and faster. Why pay more for less? And on the case...easy. What Corsair and Cooler Master call most of their mid towers are usually as large if not larger than most other manufactures full towers. Full tower usually means "tall case". Tall doesn't really amount to much other than "tall".

And on the RAM...check some benchmarks between 1333 and 1600. There might not be much if any difference at all but I would google some benchmarks just to make sure. That saves you even more $$$.

***btw that board I linked has 8 RAM slots = 64GB (8GB x 8GB).
March 2, 2012 5:26:25 PM

Why_Me said:
Lose the Kingwin psu...it's an over priced paperweight. That XFX psu I posted is manufactured by Seasonic for XFX ...Seasonic manufactures all of Corsair's mid and upper tier psu's also. But that Kingwin has to go.
Johnnyguru.com (about as reputable as it gets) disagrees. Superflower is a good OEM.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
Why_Me said:

Also that Mushkin SSD I posted is cheaper than the Samsung and faster. Why pay more for less?

You listed the Mushkin Chronos, not the Chronos Deluxe. The Chronos Deluxe is indeed faster, however it's much more expensive. The normal Chronos uses Asynchronous NAND which is why it's so much cheaper. As we all know, asynchronous NAND should be avoided whenever possible.
March 2, 2012 5:57:52 PM

striker410 said:
Johnnyguru.com (about as reputable as it gets) disagrees. Superflower is a good OEM.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

You listed the Mushkin Chronos, not the Chronos Deluxe. The Chronos Deluxe is indeed faster, however it's much more expensive. The normal Chronos uses Asynchronous NAND which is why it's so much cheaper. As we all know, asynchronous NAND should be avoided whenever possible.

Johnny Guru is the guru of psu reviews, but call it a hang up or whatever but I can't see myself ever using a Kingwin psu until they start to make a reputation of not putting out pure crap psu's like they have done for years now. Seasonic, Enermax, LEPA (manufactured by Enermax), Corsair (mid and upper line manufactured by Seasonic), Antec, XFX (all are manufactured by Seasonic), Silverstone, PC Power & Cooling, and OCZ "Z" series (manufactured with the help of PC Power & Cooling) psu's I would use, but not a Kingwin.

And not all of those listed would I use. Corsair "Builder Series" psu's are manufactured by CWT and are pure crap, Antec has a few HEC modeled psu's that are pretty much suckville, and Silverstone has been known to put out a loser or two back in the day in order to cut cost. The only thing that saved OCZ's a$$ in regards to psu's is it had the smarts to buy out PC Power & Cooling a few years back. Now they actually have some decent psu's to market.

http://www.mushkin.com/Digital-Storage/SSDs/MKNSSDCR120... <----- Firmware update for that Muskhin SSD.

@ the OP...here's something to think about. The default speed for all DDR3 RAM is "1333". When your loading up on that much RAM sometimes it's difficult to get the board to set (recognize) at anything other than 1333hz.

March 2, 2012 6:12:03 PM

Why_Me said:

@ the OP...here's something to think about. The default speed for all DDR3 RAM is "1333". When your loading up on that much RAM sometimes it's difficult to get the board to set (recognize) at anything other than 1333hz.


I will look into the PSU thing some more, I have heard some good things about Superflower. I also couldn't find any reviews of the XFX you posted, it may be knew and have solid brand rep, but I couldn't find any technical reviews. Also just went with the platinum since it was same price basically.

My mistake on the 32, your right it does handle 64GB which is awesome. I have looked at some benchmarks and the 1600 does have better performance than 1333, and since the price is not that much different it's worth it in my opinion. Also as for the recognizing issue, yep it is but in the bios its very easy to change to 1600. I had to do it with the home pc I just built last month.

And yes the SSD you posted was slower, the deluxe is faster, but I also liked the 830 for the large writes, even though it was a little bit slower on the 4k random read.
March 2, 2012 6:23:01 PM

Capt_Mctavish37 said:
I will look into the PSU thing some more, I have heard some good things about Superflower. I also couldn't find any reviews of the XFX you posted, it may be knew and have solid brand rep, but I couldn't find any technical reviews. Also just went with the platinum since it was same price basically.

My mistake on the 32, your right it does handle 64GB which is awesome. I have looked at some benchmarks and the 1600 does have better performance than 1333, and since the price is not that much different it's worth it in my opinion. Also as for the recognizing issue, yep it is but in the bios its very easy to change to 1600. I had to do it with the home pc I just built last month.

And yes the SSD you posted was slower, the deluxe is faster, but I also liked the 830 for the large writes, even though it was a little bit slower on the 4k random read.

That XFX 1050w just came out but it's the same psu as the Corsair HX1050w...they are identical. XFX and Corsair don't actually manufacture any psu's, they are manufactured by Seasonic for them.

March 2, 2012 6:30:50 PM

Why_Me said:
That XFX 1050w just came out but it's the same psu as the Corsair HX1050w...they are identical. XFX and Corsair don't actually manufacture any psu's, they are manufactured by Seasonic for them.



http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/322966-28-list-recomm...

Kingwin
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

XFX
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Both psu's scored 9.4, I realize the XFX reviewed is the 1000w not the 1050 but I'm assuming they are pretty much the same. If anyone has more technical knowledge of either of these to show me the finer points between them I would be super appreciative.
March 2, 2012 6:42:41 PM

Capt_Mctavish37 said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/322966-28-list-recomm...

Kingwin
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

XFX
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Both psu's scored 9.4, I realize the XFX reviewed is the 1000w not the 1050 but I'm assuming they are pretty much the same. If anyone has more technical knowledge of either of these to show me the finer points between them I would be super appreciative.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E... <------ That's the XFX (Seasonic) line up of psu's on newegg. Seasonic has the most solid reputation of psu's bar none.
March 2, 2012 6:53:52 PM

OP, either is fine. Both are high quality PSUs. The choice is yours.
March 13, 2012 4:36:04 PM

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