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March 2, 2012 2:16:44 PM

Hello (i hope this is the right forum to post this on)

I am contemplating the idea of making my own PC, specked for gaming. I was looking into a 700-900 pound budget without a monitor.
If you can give me any usefull insight thank you in advance, bellow I have provided all the information i Know/have found out, yet even if i have been using computers for more than 15 years, due to most being Macs, I have never looked into components and have little understanding on regards.


i am currently looking into sites providing ad hoc desktops (pcspecialist.com - ) and was looking into these markets. As i look at alternatives and prices I have mostly tackled the issue of video cards (it seems to me that if i want to use a computer for/also gaming then an nvidia graphic card would probably be a good option as would radeon. to be specific: i was thinking of mounting 2 1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready which requires me to mount ASUS® P8Z68-V/GEN3: PCI-E 3.0 READY, SLI, CROSSFIREX mothercard. The mothercard change from the original spec proposed doesn't seem to cause much of a budged bump. yet i have not looked into mothercards yet and I am not really sure of the benefits it provdes etc. What causes a budget bump is using a intel processor rather than a AMD one and as to which is better for gaming uses i am not really sure. I was opting for an equivalent of an i5 and this seems to provide a 200 pound difference. from what i understood however the i5 gen (i would'nt go for a i3) perfomes better than the AMD so at the moment I lean towards a intel processor and an nvidia video card. is all this correct? if it is, what i am thinking is that if i have to opt for a i5 then it might be more sensible to mount a better graphic card instead of two? At the moment i dont really understand the benefits of 2 graphic cards rather than 1, can i play around with this? As can i mount a better graphic card (quality and memory) and would this make me save money rather than mounting two lower graphic cards? at the moment the only understanding i have on the issue is an article/review i found on an already made gaming computer which adresses the fact that it has only 1 g.c. and that you cant expect too much of it. with an eye to gaming will 2 1gb nvidia cards perform better than a signle 2gb nvidia card or the same tipe and would this save me money? I also realize i can add graphic cards later on, but I would like to start with a decent setup.

I came out with this setup: http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/results/
yet with an AMD processor the price goes down by a 100-150 pounds



I tried looking at articles on this website and some of the threads on the forums, as I attempt to educate myself on computer components but if you can provide me to links to articles on the topic i'd be very thankfull.

regards

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March 2, 2012 2:19:00 PM

sorry i realized the link i provided doesn't lead to the page i wanted so here is the sum of components i came up with:



Case
STYLISH PIANO BLACK ENIGMA CASE + 2 FRONT USB


Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5-2400 Quad Core (3.10GHz, 6MB Cache) + HD Graphics


Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z68-V/GEN3: PCI-E 3.0 READY, SLI, CROSSFIREX


Memory (RAM)
8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)


Graphics Card
1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready


2nd Graphics Card
1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 - DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready


Memory - 1st Hard Disk
1TB SATA-II 3-Gb/s HARD DRIVE WITH 32MB CACHE (7,200rpm)


1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM


Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT


Power Supply
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan (£59)


Processor Cooling
SUPER QUIET 22dBA TRIPLE COPPER HEATPIPE INTEL CPU COOLER (£19)


Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)


Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs


USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD

and this is the price

£768.33 ex VAT.

£922 inc VAT and Delivery.
March 2, 2012 2:39:50 PM

Intel Core i5-2500 3.3GHz
http://www.cclonline.com/product/44977/BX80623I52500/CP...

Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P
http://www.cclonline.com/product/46103/GA-P67A-UD3P/Mot...

8GB Kingston Hyper X Red
http://www.cclonline.com/product/74701/KHX1600C9D3B1RK2...

Gainward GeForce GTX 570
http://www.cclonline.com/product/76217/4260183361756/Gr...

1TB Western Digital Caviar Black 3.5"
http://www.cclonline.com/product/27184/WD1002FAEX/Hard-...

700W OCZ ModXStream
http://www.cclonline.com/product/35749/OCZ700MXSP-UK/Po...

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
http://www.cclonline.com/product/76740/RR-212E-16PK-R1/...

Antec Nine Hundred
http://www.cclonline.com/product/3768/0761345-08009-5/C...

Samsung SH-222A 22x SATA DVD Writer
http://www.cclonline.com/product/68764/SH-222AB/DVD-Dri...

Total £881.34

The CPU is better than the 2400. I used a single 570 GPU. I don't see the point in doing SLI with a pair of 560's with your budget, it wont give you double the performance of a single 560 just a slight gain and can cause issues.

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a b 4 Gaming
March 2, 2012 2:45:08 PM

what resolution are you planning to game at?
two 560's in SLI may be equal to 1 better card not in sli, i'd consider a single 570 over 2 560's because sli some compatability issues in some games and the 1GB of vram will hold you back.

Get a branded psu, bump up to a 2500k if you can, it should only be 20-30 over a 2400.

if you are building yourself also look at scan.co.uk

a b 4 Gaming
March 2, 2012 2:46:13 PM

+1 to wr, but try and squeeze for a 2500k if you can from a future proofing point of view.
March 2, 2012 2:51:31 PM

My bad thought i had selected the 2500k in that build. On the same site it only costs 20 pence more
Anonymous
a b 4 Gaming
March 2, 2012 3:14:05 PM

wr6133 said:
My bad thought i had selected the 2500k in that build. On the same site it only costs 20 pence more


the 2500k on the asus board with 16 phases would overclock better than the 12 phases on the gigabyte . . . just saying.
EDIT: nevermind, the 4 more that asus has are for the igpu which isn't used on the gigabyte board.
March 2, 2012 3:20:39 PM

hey thanks guys, I had some trouble with the acronims but i think i got the hand of it.
so what u are saying is
- go for a bigger/better single video card rather than 2 smaller
- go for a i5 2500

what about the mothercard? should i stick with the one that allows me to use 2 video cards for future updates or would that be wasted?
March 2, 2012 3:27:07 PM

Just my opinion but SLI is a nice option to have on a motherboard but not really a deal clincher. Thats too me anyway. I think looniam can advise you better on motherboards Intel isn't really my area.
March 2, 2012 3:28:10 PM

cheers

btw? what is a SLI option?
Anonymous
a b 4 Gaming
March 2, 2012 3:37:43 PM

masobrancaleone said:
cheers

btw? what is a SLI option?


Scalable Link Interface for Nvidia graphic cards (two work together as one) AMD uses Crossfire (Xfire) to achieve the same.
Anonymous
a b 4 Gaming
March 2, 2012 3:50:34 PM

wr6133 said:
Just my opinion but SLI is a nice option to have on a motherboard but not really a deal clincher. Thats too me anyway. I think looniam can advise you better on motherboards Intel isn't really my area.


+1


you were doing just fine until i opened my mouth unnecessarily.
March 2, 2012 5:49:23 PM

After much deliberation, I finally pulled the trigger and built this spec............

1 x PowerColor HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E Graphics Card 321991
1 x Asus Maximus IV Gene-Z Gen 3 Z68 Socket 1155 HDMI SupremeFX X-Fi 2 8 Channel Audio mATX Motherboard 338468
1 x Coolermaster Excalibur 120mm PWM Case Fan 218936
1 x 140mm Magnetic Fan Filter 309510
1 x Fractal Design Arc Case 276197
1 x Samsung SH-222AB 22x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive - OEM Black 268621
1 x Coolermaster Silent Pro 850W Modular PSU 176413
1 x Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600Mhz CAS8 1.5V Non-ECC Unbuffered 248844
1 x Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache Retail Boxed Processor 251596
1 x Corsair 120GB Force 3 SSD 2.5" SATA-III 6Gb/s Read = 550MB/s, Write = 510MB/s 268693
1 x Corsair Hydro Series H100 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler 277523
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium w/SP1 - Licence and media - 1 PC - OEM - DVD - 64-bit

Cost from Ebuyer was mid 900's. Overclocks well,and easily, and runs 7.6 in windows satisfaction index (if thats relevant)

I've added some bits and bobs, some extra fans, but thats about it. I went for the 6850, because its entirely adequate and it was on
promo at £95 at time of order ..it will be upgraded in 18 months or so....PSU hefty enough to cope with a heavy SLI/CFire config.
a b 4 Gaming
March 2, 2012 6:21:07 PM

£95 for 6850 wow, good build, glad you came back and told us how you got on. Although it all seemed to happen on the same day which is a bit odd, fastest build in the world :) 
March 2, 2012 6:40:54 PM

LOL i thought fast build too .... look twice different usernames
a b 4 Gaming
March 2, 2012 6:47:38 PM

The best advice that I can give you on a new build is to relax and have fun as you build your system. Don't stress over the build if you make a mistake. Also you are going to love what the Intel® Core™ i5-2500K can do for you.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
a b 4 Gaming
March 2, 2012 8:27:44 PM

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