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( Im a First time Builder not tech savy And i have a very limited budget)
*Also i have terriable grammer*

I have a hp pentinium 4 from somewhere around year 2,000 its lived a long life and its tryng to die on me. Not woth saving pluss its so old it cant play any new games. ( High past Time to upgrade/Move on )

I want to build a system that is based on the scorpius/bulldozer am3+ fx build
I want to be able to achive high 1080p graphics on todays modern games that i could not play before( bf3, Skyrim,etc... )

Ive been searching and researching for weeks and have compiled a list of parts and prices for my pc but its a bit over budget and im not sure everything i have is compatable or necessary maybe i could trim a few here or there with out sacraficeing perfromance
* I DO PLAN TO OVER CLOCK * (despite having any knowledge of how to do so but board has ufi bios and auto tuneing)

LIST-

ALL PARTS AND PRICES VIA NEWEGG
[DVD] ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
$20.99

[CASE] COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case
$49.99

[HDD] Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
$129.99

[MOBO] ASUS M5A97 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$94.99

[GPU] ASUS HD7770-DC-1GD5 Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support
$159.99


[PSU] RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply
$59.99

[RAM] G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-8GBRH
$49.99

[CPU] AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX
$109.99

[AFTER MARKET COOLER FOR O.C.] COOLER MASTER Vortex Plus RR-VTPS-28PK-R1 92mm Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
$32.99

Subtotal: $702.91

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I'm sorry you have put that much work into it to be told no, but that just won't work.

The Raidmax PSU has to go.

Buy the cheapest drive you can for now and replace it when prices drop.

  • Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
  • Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
  • SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
  • ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
  • Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
  • CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
  • CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
  • Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32120
    Why?: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o...

  • LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
    TOTAL: $716.91

    You don't have to have another cooler, and the price will be under $700 if you pay attention to the promo codes.

    • I went with the FX 8120 and HD 6950 and I max out Skyrim just fine. I am sitting at 4.4 Ghz right now. Many folks will dissuade you from going with the bulldozer setup, but it works just fine.

    I expected to get some AMD hatter replies but honestly from what i have seen the AMD chips/Board is cheeper than intel and price per perfomance is best bet. I didnt want a complte rebuild i just want some advice on things that take more knowledge than personal preffrence. like power supply (do i have a good one picked is it enough power do i need more or less, I do plan To O.C. even just a lil so i know ill need extra for that ) also ram wise i dont know wich is better and weather i have right stuff for the money ) like i said "first time builder" i need help with wether all is compatiable will my cooler be efficient (I could have went a bit cheeper and got one of those tall ones but not sure if it will fit.) that kind of stuff
    Thank you for any and all replies
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    kiramesu said:
    I expected to get some AMD hatter replies but honestly from what i have seen the AMD chips/Board is cheeper than intel and price per perfomance is best bet. I didnt want a complte rebuild i just want some advice on things that take more knowledge than personal preffrence. like power supply (do i have a good one picked is it enough power do i need more or less, I do plan To O.C. even just a lil so i know ill need extra for that ) also ram wise i dont know wich is better and weather i have right stuff for the money ) like i said "first time builder" i need help with wether all is compatiable will my cooler be efficient (I could have went a bit cheeper and got one of those tall ones but not sure if it will fit.) that kind of stuff
    Thank you for any and all replies


    I have found my mobo is very picky about the ram. I had the UD5 and my Mushkin ram did fine in there, but now I am running the UD3 and it doesn't like the Mushkin. I have some DDR3 1866 Corsair Vengeance enroute and it is approved by the mobo maker. I recommend making sure you get compatible ram, and if you can afford it get the 1866 to get the most out of your bulldozer.

    I'd also say you're better off getting the HD 6850 over the 7770.

    That PSU however is horrid. You're going to be running a high powered gaming rig here, do not skimp on the power supply. You can find other areas to go cheaper, but a solid PSU will ensure your rig is problem free and leave room for expanasion. In your case, 600 watts is a good idea.

    I'm not a hatter or even a hater :)  I just think you'll get far better gaming bang for the buck with the i3 over the 4100. UNLESS you want to OC, but you do not.

    Good enough today is never good enough in two years, so why not maximize what you get now?

    If you just want something that will be good enough, get an Athlon x3
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    and put the extra $20 towards a 6870
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    OK so im not very good speller (Typo King)
    I did say i wanted to O.C. thats the reason i went went fx 4100 and the asus 970 board also to achive the scorpus plat form with added ATI gpu

    Proximon said:
    I'm not a hatter or even a hater :)  I just think you'll get far better gaming bang for the buck with the i3 over the 4100. UNLESS you want to OC, but you do not.

    Good enough today is never good enough in two years, so why not maximize what you get now?

    If you just want something that will be good enough, get an Athlon x3
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

    and put the extra $20 towards a 6870
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


    True dat, the i3 is a solid start for a gaming platform. And proximons advice is solid, even though you did state a preference for BD. Think of our advice as two sides of the same coin, the i3 rig is a solid intro gaming rig, but the FX machine is not too shabby, especially since overclocking is a goal and you can get an FX 4100 well into the mid 4Ghz range.

    kiramesu said:
    why would i down grade the gpu the ones sugested are more money and older


    Because a 6850 is faster. The 7770 series are overpriced for the performance, because they ARE new. dig?

    Ah, I'm sorry, I misread what you typed. You even put it in caps... but I still read it as I DO NOT PLAN TO OVERCLOCK. You used the word despite right after which means something a little different than you think.

    OK, so... you plan to overclock, despite NOT having much knowledge because the BIOS and ASUS utilities will do it for you. I get it now.

    Is the FX4100 your best choice then? I'm not sure. One of the Black Edition Phenom II's might be better. I would comparison shop against the 965.

    Well there was a 5770 and then a 6770 and now a 7770.
    At the same time there also was a 6850 and will be a 7850 pay more attention to the last 3 numbers on a AMD gpu. Higher is better

    Its a easy mistake to make. I once "Upgraded" from a 4650 to a 5450 and i really wondered why my frame rates had gone down.

    AMD FX-4100 ain't so bad actually but ok overall get the 7850 if it comes out, but if its too expensive just go grab the 6850/6870 it's awesome i tell you

    a good 650w psu like the seasonic 80plus gold or get the bronze one if its to expensive or the corsair 80plus gold/bronze

    In a recent comparison on this site the FX 4100 matched the i3 2100 in games , with a range of sub $200 graphics cards . It did that with a 200MHz overclock because Toms was simulating an FX 4100 by turning off parts of a higher spec FX .

    Almost everyone will be able to get another 800 MHz even with the stock cooler so it should comfortably beat the i3 2100 in most situations , with a graphics card to the level of a 6950 or GTX 560 ti .

    RAM needs to be 1.5 volt or less .

    I dont know the vortex cooler , but see if you can find a comparison with the Hyper 212 which is a great cooler, exceptional value and a bit cheaper .

    The benchmarks I have seen for the 7770 suggest a 6870 would be cheaper and faster . Search on newegg by price .

    You need a bronze rated 500 - 550 watt psu . Probably not manufactured for or by raidmax

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