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March 3, 2012 5:04:53 PM

I am a first time builder and i was wanting to build a budget gaming pc for <$1500. I do plan on over clocking which ever one i get. I would like to upgrade it incrementally as i get more money such as sli/crossfire.

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March 3, 2012 5:24:01 PM

Hello,

Currently games are barely benefiting from 4 cores. The 8 core bulldozer processor of AMD is extremely useless for gaming.

If you read a few more topics on this forum , you'll also see it yourself. I had made a topic about this and people literally opened my eyes ^^

you dont need 8 cores for gaming.

If you also check some benchmarks , at some points even i3 beats high end amd cpus.

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March 3, 2012 5:33:31 PM

Your build can be donne muuuuch better.
You don't need Win 7 Ultimate for a home user Win 7 Home 64bit is enough.
MOBO : ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU : I5 2500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM : Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD : Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD : Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR60GB 2.5" 60GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU : XFX Radeon HD 7950 Black 3GB 384-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU : CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750M 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU COOLER : COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BR-PLAYER : ASUS Black 12X BD-ROM Blu-ray Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE : COOLER MASTER HAF 912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS : Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TOTAL : $1,477.89
If you don't need SSD then in the same budget you can buy a 7970 video card.
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March 3, 2012 5:44:00 PM

The only thing i was worried about with the ASRock motherboards was the shorter warranty. Seeing as i see a lot of builds on here with ASRock mobos the warranty isn't that big of a deal apparently. I am really liking the build other than that though. Thank you for the suggestions.
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March 3, 2012 5:45:16 PM

For most current games the i5 is a bit better, but it's only a matter of time before games start utilizing the 8 cores of the AMD chips.
Battlefield 3 already does.
I'd personally buy an 8120 or 8150 these days.

btw: why pay all that money for a full Windows 7 ultimate licence? Is there any Ultimate-edition feature that u plan to use? You'd save a lot of money by buying a Windows 7 Professinal OEM licence.
Jeez... never new Windows licences are that expensive. I'm glad I'm a student.
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March 3, 2012 5:46:14 PM

If you want a longer warranty you have to pay 1-year extended warranty $14.99.
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March 3, 2012 5:46:23 PM

another bonus about asrock is you can fit heatsinks from other chipsets on them.

im using the heatsink from my core2duo socket 775 on my 2500k, overclocked to 5ghz
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March 3, 2012 5:56:56 PM

Since you're building this system specifically for gaming, as it was mentioned, you can go with a quad core processor and will lose next to no performance. This means you could go with a cheaper AMD Phenom II x4 if you wanted as well.

Don't forget about the new i5-2550k, which does not have onboard video but has a slightly higher clock speed from the factory.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm personally using the i5-2500k and have been thrilled with it. I have used AMD for years, with the exception of a few systems, and have always been impressed with their value. The 2500k though is another story all together, it is priced very competitively and it seems to really blow the competition out of the water. Typically, you don't need to spend $200 on a motherboard, for either system, to get great results. If you cap your MB pricing around $150 or so, I think you can find a terrific board that will let you OC at will and will be very reliable.

When it comes to deciding on as SSD, it is a noticeable improvement in boot and loading times over a standard platter based drive, but it is also something you can add later if you wish. If you are going with an SSD though, I would suggest going higher than a 60GB. I'm using a 120GB and believe me when I say, it fills up quick! When you consider that some of the new games easily use 10-20GB of space for a single install, plus you only get 112GB out of a 120GB because of the way the drives are engineered, and that windows 7 isn't exactly tiny, the more space you can get on an SSD the better. The prices are dropping pretty rapidly now, its quite easy to find a "high-end" SSD for around $1 per GB, and this should be closer to $.75 a GB by the end of the year.

Anyway, Sosofm posted a decent system for you. I would suggest putting as much into your video card(s) as possible, as this is where gaming systems are made. A AMD 7970 or 7950 are tops on the market right now and offer some awesome performance! I would suggest going with one of the all-in-one water cooling systems instead of air for your CPU, they are much quieter and very very effective, not to mention easy to install.

Good luck with your system!
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March 3, 2012 6:00:15 PM

molo9000 said:
For most current games the i5 is a bit better, but it's only a matter of time before games start utilizing the 8 cores of the AMD chips.
Battlefield 3 already does.
I'd personally buy an 8120 or 8150 these days.

btw: why pay all that money for a full Windows 7 ultimate licence? Is there any Ultimate-edition feature that u plan to use? You'd save a lot of money by buying a Windows 7 Professinal OEM licence.
Jeez... never new Windows licences are that expensive. I'm glad I'm a student.



I don't know what you're referring to with Battlefield 3, I think its been pretty widely known that CPU means VERY little to the game. Regardless of whether you have 2 cores or 8 cores it runs pretty much the same.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
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March 3, 2012 7:21:51 PM

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March 3, 2012 7:29:24 PM

I have decided to go with the setup Sosofm but i substituted the i5 2550k that Ironwilly suggested. Thank you all for the help
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March 4, 2012 12:29:07 AM

Ironwilly said:
I don't know what you're referring to with Battlefield 3, I think its been pretty widely known that CPU means VERY little to the game. Regardless of whether you have 2 cores or 8 cores it runs pretty much the same.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...


Battlefield 3 singleplayer and multiplayer are 2 VERY different games. much bigger maps in multiplayer, lots more physics, etc.
Multiplayer needs a lot of CPU performance and actually utilizes 8 cores.

The in-game performance graph shows my CPU (i5-2500k @4,3GHz) and GPU (HD6970, slight OC) to have almost equal render rates.
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