Canon i9950 printer and reds

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nobody wrote:

> The i9950 is a superlative printer, however, if fails when printing reds,
> in particular on non-Canon papers (yes, I did profile the printer with a
> Gretag
> Macbeth device, no less!!).

Get a REAL professional made profile and I bet the problem goes away. The
consumer "profilers" just aren't as perfect as the makers of them lead you
to believe.



> I am now using an art paper I like a lot
> (matte, Perma Jet, museum classic, produced in UK, 310g -no, I have
> nothing
> to do with the company, I am just an amateur and consumer.). The paper
> seems to me to give a sort of 3 dimensional feeling, yet I have to fiddle
> a lot before I could get the reds or reddish parts of the picture right or
> nearly right, but I never seem to succeed.

Because the profile isn't right. Don't blame the printer for a profile
problem.


> Is this your experience as
> well
> with this Canon printer?

It was until I had "cathy's" make me a profile for my favorite paper combo.
If you like this one paper alot, spend the $40 for a good profile for
-your- printer with this paper.

> Even my bank manager could not stop me from
> buying the new Epson 24 inch printer when it comes out, do you think the
> Epson
> should/might do better in this respect?

No, feed the Epson a bad profile and you'll get the same results. Again it's
NOT the printer, it's the profile.
--

Stacey

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You are encountering what I have concluded from my experience is the
Achilles heel of Canon printers: bad software drivers and bad color
management.
It should not be necessary to resort to "professional" profiling for your
printer. The setup you have should be more than adequate to generate a
reasonable printer/paper profile. The protocols for these procedures however
can be difficult to follow correctly.
Unfortunately without generating these kinds of profiles I do not believe
Canon printers are capable of being used in any reliable way.
In my experience Canon colors change significantly when they dry, so do not
judge the print immediately out of the printer. Reds, in particular, change
tone in response to the ambient light with which you are viewing the print
and the ambient light can affect how you have profiled your monitor and
printer.
I do not know if you really need a 24 inch printer. However if you are using
color management properly many of your problems will go away if you swith to
Epson printers. Color management is much more accurate, in my experience,
using the upper end Epson printers even with the canned paper profiles that
come with the printer than what you can wrestle out of Canon printers.

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As I said in the original article, I have used a Gretag Macbeth profiling
device, which is if not the best, at least one of the best; and, apart from
the reds, I cannot really complain! I have read somewhere that the reds are
a problem with any injects. The question is whether, as a matter of degree
Canon do worse than others; or may be it is deliberate Company policy to
force one buy only the Canon paper ("nobody is perfect" ). Once I rang
Canon UK, and was told in no uncertain terms that that was the case.
nobody


On 4/6/05 19:31, in article sgs3a15cl4s6jddpkgvrsa4rlf2qhk6jl9@4ax.com,
"rafe bustin" <rafe b at speakeasy dot net> wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Jun 2005 18:13:22 GMT, "birdman" <apquilts@pacbell.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> I do not know if you really need a 24 inch printer. However if you are using
>> color management properly many of your problems will go away if you swith to
>> Epson printers. Color management is much more accurate, in my experience,
>> using the upper end Epson printers even with the canned paper profiles that
>> come with the printer than what you can wrestle out of Canon printers.
>
>
> The Canon i9950 isn't a 24 inch printer, it's 13 inch.
>
> I've used Canons, Epsons and HPs and the issues are
> pretty much the same. The drivers are always a maze,
> and it's inexcusable that the manufacturers aren't
> clearer about applying ICC color management.
>
> Of course, this could be because the bulk of folks
> using inkjet printers still aren't applying real
> color management.
>
> Even so -- if you look around on the web you'll find
> the right settings for just about any printer and
> driver. One good place to look is companies that
> sell profile-creation software. They often have
> mini-tutorials on their site, and since they're
> looking to sell to a wide market, they often
> demonstrate settings in a variety of imaging
> programs and printer drivers.
>
>
> rafe b.
> http://www.terrapinphoto.com