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January 2, 2012 10:38:24 PM

hi i have a 460 nvidia and im not needing much speed persay although my pc is overclocked at 4ghz core i7 but i was wondering if getting a newer graphics card would bring better picture? for instances i read on amd's website the new 70000 series will have tessalation or somthin.

just wondered if there is any benifit to a newer card or is it justr speed
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January 2, 2012 11:12:44 PM

WINTERLORD said:
hi i have a 460 nvidia and im not needing much speed persay although my pc is overclocked at 4ghz core i7 but i was wondering if getting a newer graphics card would bring better picture? for instances i read on amd's website the new 70000 series will have tessalation or somthin.

just wondered if there is any benifit to a newer card or is it justr speed

The newer cards do look better and Radeons in my experience have better quality AA/AF however I have not run any of the newer Nvidias GTX 275 so i cant really say for sure.
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January 2, 2012 11:15:55 PM

Tessellation is a feature on current cards as well. AMD will be improving tessellation support at current Nvidia has better tessellation performance. There are not a lot of games using it, but it does look better at a performance cost.

In the end, max settings on a game generally look about the same on all cards.

There was a time when Card A put out better image quality then Card B, but for the most part, if the card supports the features in use, they look very similar.

This page will show you what tessellation can do.

http://unigine.com/products/heaven/

or just go here. its the video on the page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkKtY2G3FbU&feature=play...

Back in the day, AMD(ATI) had something called TruForm to enhance games that made use of it(made games look better). It was only and ATI thing, but did not seem to last that long.
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January 2, 2012 11:22:48 PM

nukemaster said:
Tessellation is a feature on current cards as well. AMD will be improving tessellation support at current Nvidia has better tessellation performance. There are not a lot of games using it, but it does look better at a performance cost.

In the end, max settings on a game generally look about the same on all cards.

There was a time when Card A put out better image quality then Card B, but for the most part, if the card supports the features in use, they look very similar.

This page will show you what tessellation can do.

http://unigine.com/products/heaven/

or just go here. its the video on the page.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkKtY2G3FbU&feature=play...

Back in the day, AMD(ATI) had something called TruForm to enhance games that made use of it(made games look better). It was only and ATI thing, but did not seem to last that long.

You mean Nvidia has better tess like this as compared to Radeon cards http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_r6850_cyclo...
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January 2, 2012 11:25:21 PM

are you referring to games? because like for pictures there be no noticeable difference, unless you compare 4MB 15 year old PCI video card to new one.
But even games new card get better performance, how good it looks depends on game and engine its made on,

Tested tessellation with 2x and 4x it adds bit more depth, but if nobody tell, you would newer notice
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January 2, 2012 11:29:42 PM

Was more thinking of this.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3735/sapphire_radeon_h...

When used allot Nvidia wins. I know real games do not use that much. Still a fact that in extreme tessellation Nvidia is currently very good in single gpu setups.

Also it should be noted that ATI has added an optimization to the tessellation just to increase performance(not going to say Nvidia did not do the same).

I am saying this as an ATI user too.

Not going to turn this into a pissing match. At the same settings, most games should "look" the same.
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January 2, 2012 11:40:01 PM

nukemaster said:
Was more thinking of this.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3735/sapphire_radeon_h...

When used allot Nvidia wins. I know real games do not use that much. Still a fact that in extreme tessellation Nvidia is currently very good in single gpu setups.

Also it should be noted that ATI has added an optimization to the tessellation just to increase performance(not going to say Nvidia did not do the same).

I am saying this as an ATI user too.

Nvidia has always won in synthetic benchmarks however in practice Radeon is doing very well when even a mid range card can keep up and even beat a high end Nvidia card in a number of games that speaks allot of Radeon.
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January 2, 2012 11:43:31 PM

If you were interested in upgrading then I would go with a current card because it will be awhile before there are new cards being sold that will make much more of a difference than what is for sale today. If you were to go from a 460 to a 580 then you would see a noticeable performance increase and better picture and better fps.
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January 2, 2012 11:53:36 PM

ok thanks for the feedbacck yes im looking at games hopwever i dont play many actualy only one im playin right now is elder scrolls and i got good fps with my processor overclocked
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January 2, 2012 11:57:45 PM

If you are happy with performance, do not bother upgrading.

By the time you DO want to upgrade, there will be faster cards then we have now. and they will be cheaper :) 
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January 3, 2012 12:48:42 AM

ok and am wondering to future proof the graphics card is the market trending toward 2gb for future graphics? should i consider a 2gb memory card
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January 3, 2012 1:10:00 AM

As more and more games push higher resolution textures and AA as well as mutli monitor or very high rez screens, it may be something to look at, but for today's games, not many will take advantage of it.

There are games and settings that WILL use the extra memory, one such case is with crossfire/sli.

This is a real example of it even on a single card. very high rez...
http://benchmarkextreme.com/Articles/Radeon%205870%202G...

Future-proof is hard to ensure.
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January 3, 2012 1:12:52 AM

WINTERLORD said:
ok and am wondering to future proof the graphics card is the market trending toward 2gb for future graphics? should i consider a 2gb memory card


the 2gb for vram for the fucture is good to go.
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January 3, 2012 1:16:39 AM

any idea when the 7000 serioes is gonna come out from amd/ati
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January 3, 2012 1:22:53 AM

Well, newer card = more performance = more settings to turn up = more eyecandy.
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January 3, 2012 1:25:53 AM

fb39ca4 said:
Well, newer card = more performance = more settings to turn up = more eyecandy.

I think you guys are missing the OP point he was asking if the IQ was better with newer cards not if is has more eyecandy effects.
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January 3, 2012 1:37:17 AM

The 7970 is due to go on sale around Jan 9 and then the other models to be released after that. I would wait a bit before jumping in since you want to be able to see what models will have what features and amounts of ram. The 7970 is due to have 3gb of vram on it.
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