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March 6, 2012 6:03:02 PM

I am an architecture student, and i like gaming.

i am debating the posibility of a desktop or a laptop suited for my field.

if it is a desktop it has got to be a custom monster that will last for quite a while

i have asked my teachers about the subject and they all tell me to get the most powerful videocard i can.
so i snooped arround and this is the workstation build i came up with.

two GeForce GTX 590 graphics cards

COSMOS II Ultra Tower

ASUS Rampage IV Gene LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73960X

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9Q-32GBXL

SeaSonic X-SERIES X-1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply


i hope these are compatible, and i dont know if i am missing some components.

then for the laptop, anyone know of a prebuilt one that is as much of a monster as the desktop i just described?

i know that this is a extreme gaming build but it will work for me


the programs i will use will be: autocad, revit, photoshop, 3dmax, maya, skyrim.
so yeah... heavy modeling and gaming rig...

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March 6, 2012 6:50:03 PM

bustillomoreno said:
I am an architecture student, and i like gaming.

i am debating the posibility of a desktop or a laptop suited for my field.

if it is a desktop it has got to be a custom monster that will last for quite a while

i have asked my teachers about the subject and they all tell me to get the most powerful videocard i can.
so i snooped arround and this is the workstation build i came up with.

two GeForce GTX 590 graphics cards

COSMOS II Ultra Tower

ASUS Rampage IV Gene LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E 3.3GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73960X

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9Q-32GBXL

SeaSonic X-SERIES X-1050 1050W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply


i hope these are compatible, and i dont know if i am missing some components.

then for the laptop, anyone know of a prebuilt one that is as much of a monster as the desktop i just described?

i know that this is a extreme gaming build but it will work for me


the programs i will use will be: autocad, revit, photoshop, 3dmax, maya, skyrim.
so yeah... heavy modeling and gaming rig...


wow..that is quite the beast. a few notes:

*even if you're gonna do some crazy ass serious photoshop/Autodesk stuff, you reallly don't need 32Gb of ram. Personally I'd get 16gb of 1833 or higher, as those are the only levels your gonna get any real noticeable performance increase.

*different software, especially design software often have varying technical requirements, particularly in regards to video cards. Posted below are video card requirements for most of the software you listed.

*The AutoDesk software you listed are nearly exclusively design for Professional workstation graphics cards, which aren't meant to be utilize for gaming purposes. That being said, the GTX 570 is supported under Adobe CS5 (unsure about your GTX 590's). From what i've seen so far from both adobe and autodesk, you'll probably gonna need to start looking at NVIDIA's Quadro Line. http://www.nvidia.com/object/workstation-solutions.html

There are probably a plethora of TH threads on workstation cards, but i'm too lazy to post them.

I think what you need is a "best of both worlds/seperate lives" setup, which will either entail you getting a workstation laptop and building a gaming rig, or buying a gaming laptop (ick!!) and building a workstation rig, or (my choice), splitting the cost of you CRAZY ASS EXPENSIVE "future build" and building both a AutoDesk/Adobe design workstation rig and a gaming rig, both being mid-to-high end specs, and both being upgradeable, a feature you don't get with many, if any workstation or gaming laptops.

Addedum: there are some really good custom workstation laptops available out there. There are even custom laptops that are specifically suited for autodesk software.

Again, as I note everywhere else, don't take this advice as gospel. Ask around...and remember: have fun!!!

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html

http://download.autodesk.com/us/qualcharts/2011/maya201...

http://www.autodesk.com/us/revit/revit_graphics_hardwar...

Certified Hardware finder for multiple Autodesk software:

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/cert?siteID=123112...


***********HOLY CRAP... I totally forgot...you're probably wondering by now what the difference between a gaming/consumer and workstation/professional cards are??? here are some good explanations (because I'm lazy and i have a migraine)

this explanation worked for me: www.nvidia.com/object/quadro_geforce.html

More laziness http://www.google.com/#hl=en&safe=off&sclient=psy-ab&q=...
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*The AutoDesk software you listed are nearly exclusively design for Professional workstation graphics cards, which aren't meant to be utilize for gaming purposes. That being said, the GTX 570 is supported under Adobe CS5 (unsure about your GTX 590's). From what i've seen so far from both adobe and autodesk, you'll probably gonna need to start looking at NVIDIA's Quadro Line. http://www.nvidia.com/object/works [...] tions.html


To answer that question - the 590 can't be SLI'd as it's essentially 2 580-equivalent GPUs on a single card with two processors (similar to EVGA's 560 2 WIN card). And it's been discontinued and going on eBay a single card runs $1200 right now. It's kind of a huge moot point now when you can get an OC'd 580 like the one EVGA has and be perfectly fine, but the 7970 far outperforms that. I'm not sure in a rendering environment how that would fare with the 580, but I don't exactly have the money or resources to test those products out. :lol: 

I wouldn't go out of the way to locate a 590 - but yeah a Quaddro would be great, but it won't be able to handle the quick rendering that a gaming graphics card will handle, it's more about the fine details than anything else.

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i hope these are compatible, and i dont know if i am missing some components.

then for the laptop, anyone know of a prebuilt one that is as much of a monster as the desktop i just described?


No laptop will come remotely close to matching the 3960X - right now it's the CPU to beat on any build.

I definitely agree with the above that without question 32GB is serious overkill on any build. Even the most detailed Autodesk Revit renders don't come close to using 12GB, let alone 16GB even.

Everything you have is compatible but you'll definitely need a GPU to match that I suggest going with the Radeon 7970:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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