Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo VS Corsair A70

[Temuka]

Guys,for this2 days at my nearby store I've got huge deal for Corsair A70,It's gonna be 36$ which is the same price I was gonna pay for 212 Evo.

I've seen some tests for noise and heat,but I can't choose the right one. So I need your help cause I'm going to buy cooler tomorrow,thanks in advance

 

[nna2]

the A70 is slightly better, what kind of prices are you looking at?

 

[Temuka]

well,the price at this moment isn't really the issue,I just don't want to pay 2-3 times more for 5-10% better performance (I mean 3-4 dba in noise and 3-4 degree in heat)

 

[Temuka]

well,the price at this moment isn't really the issue,I just don't want to pay 2-3 times more for 5-10% better performance (I mean 3-4 dba in noise and 3-4 degree in heat)

 

[nna2]

then go for the 212 evo, its a good preformer (i can say being an owner

 

[Temuka]

If a70 is slightly better as you say,then why to go with 212 evo?

 

[EXT64]

I've got both the A70 and the old Hyper 212+. The A70 should offer a little better cooling, however note that it is a voltage controlled fan not a PWM like the Hyper. It does come with both fans though (a nice plus) and resistor cables to reduce the fan RPM if it isn't being controlled elsewhere. All in all, if the A70 were within $10-20 of the Hyper and I had a pretty high power CPU (or high OC) I would get the A70.

 

[Temuka]

however note that it is a voltage controlled fan not a PWM like the Hyper

what does this mean and on what this effects ? thanks

 

[InvalidError]

what does this mean and on what this effects ? thanks

It means you will not be able to use the CPU's PWM fan regulator with the fans included with the H70 so the H70 will likely end up louder than it needs to be.

 

[Temuka]

It means you will not be able to use the CPU's PWM fan regulator with the fans included with the H70 so the H70 will likely end up louder than it needs to be.

H70? I think you mean A70.

now the choise becomes harder,what do you reccomend?

 

[Onus]

CM has been proven in competent technical reviews (at HardwareSecrets) to be a dishonest company. Since a rational individual does not support dishonesty, I recommend against buying any of their products, regardless of quality. In any case, the Corsair is a good choice on its own merits. If you want PWM fans, the Xigmatek Gaia is another good choice, and comes with the mounting pegs for a second fan if you want push-pull.

 

[EXT64]

A lot of motherboards can do both Voltage and PWM regulation, and as I said the Corsair includes resistor cables to slow the fans down. What are the specs of the computer this is going on?

 

[Temuka]

A lot of motherboards can do both Voltage and PWM regulation, and as I said the Corsair includes resistor cables to slow the fans down. What are the specs of the computer this is going on?

Asus Z77 V-LE
i5 3570k
2x4gb 1600 9-9-9-24 G.Skills
1TB Seagate 7200 SATA

any suggestions ?

 

[EXT64]

Planning on major overclocking? Either way for that price I would probably get the A70. But at stock to at least 4GHz the Hyper will cool that system nicely too.

 

[nna2]

CM has been proven in competent technical reviews (at HardwareSecrets) to be a dishonest company. Since a rational individual does not support dishonesty, I recommend against buying any of their products, regardless of quality. In any case, the Corsair is a good choice on its own merits. If you want PWM fans, the Xigmatek Gaia is another good choice, and comes with the mounting pegs for a second fan if you want push-pull.

i own a few cooler master products and im satisfied with all of them

 

[InvalidError]

i own a few cooler master products and im satisfied with all of them

CM cases and HSFs are fine but I would not trust their PSUs. I tried two last year and they seemed about as bad/inefficient as the no-name brands (the type included for 'free' in $30 cases) I had lying around.

I googled for a CM PSU review. First result I get is a hardwaresecrets review reporting that their "Extreme 475" PSU went out of spec at 360W and blew up during at 430W. This is probably where jtt's comment is coming from, doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

 

[Onus]

In reviews of unrelated products (in this case, many of their PSUs), CM was found to be dishonest. Many companies exaggerate, or offer best-case scenarios that are unrealistic at best, but claiming protection circuits that are in fact missing is an outright lie. Here are some sample links:
LL=Liar Label, MC=Missing Circuits

1. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Extreme-2-475-W-Power-Supply-Review/1550/11
2. MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Elite-Power-350-W-Power-Supply-Review/1184/9
3. LL AND MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Elite-Power-460-W-Power-Supply-Review/1005/9
4. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-600-W-Power-Supply-Review/1034/9
5. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-550-W-Power-Supply-Review/969/9

...I think that's enough. These aren't dings for poor quality, but for dishonesty. Many others get dinged for quality; my favorite is probably the remark in HardOCP's review of the GX-650 calling it a "polished turd in a box."
So anyway, there you have it; a company which should not be supported, regardless of the quality of its other products. And get this, it gets worse. Having been called on it, they're going to pull them from the North American market and foist them off elsewhere. This per Gabriel Torres: "I had a meeting with them during Computex and, according to them, they are removing all power supplies with fake wattage from the North American market (and dumping them somewhere else)."
So, it isn't so much that their quality is low on some products (it isn't on others; many people love their HAF cases), but that they are dishonest. A rational individual does not support dishonesty. Fortunately, in this case you'll actually end up with a better product too by getting the Corsair.

 

[nna2]

In reviews of unrelated products (in this case, many of their PSUs), CM was found to be dishonest. Many companies exaggerate, or offer best-case scenarios that are unrealistic at best, but claiming protection circuits that are in fact missing is an outright lie. Here are some sample links:
LL=Liar Label, MC=Missing Circuits

1. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Extreme-2-475-W-Power-Supply-Review/1550/11
2. MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Elite-Power-350-W-Power-Supply-Review/1184/9
3. LL AND MC: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Elite-Power-460-W-Power-Supply-Review/1005/9
4. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-600-W-Power-Supply-Review/1034/9
5. LL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-550-W-Power-Supply-Review/969/9

...I think that's enough. These aren't dings for poor quality, but for dishonesty. Many others get dinged for quality; my favorite is probably the remark in HardOCP's review of the GX-650 calling it a "polished turd in a box."
So anyway, there you have it; a company which should not be supported, regardless of the quality of its other products. And get this, it gets worse. Having been called on it, they're going to pull them from the North American market and foist them off elsewhere. This per Gabriel Torres: "I had a meeting with them during Computex and, according to them, they are removing all power supplies with fake wattage from the North American market (and dumping them somewhere else)."
So, it isn't so much that their quality is low on some products (it isn't on others; many people love their HAF cases), but that they are dishonest. A rational individual does not support dishonesty. Fortunately, in this case you'll actually end up with a better product too by getting the Corsair.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/cooler-master-silent-pro-m2-1000w-psu-review/8
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/cm_sp_1200w/7.htm
but yeah, they are a 2-way street on quality, my 690 II case is a good quality build, along with my 212 Evo

 

[Temuka]

OK,I'm sticking with A70 thx for advices guys

 

[Stan Purwin]

well,the price at this moment isn't really the issue,I just don't want to pay 2-3 times more for 5-10% better performance (I mean 3-4 dba in noise and 3-4 degree in heat)