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Phenom ii x4 965BE vs 2500k

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June 21, 2012 2:13:05 PM

I'm planning on a build ( < 800 $) and I think I'm going with the HD7850 as my gpu. With microcenter's deals, I could get a 965BE w/ a mobo for around 160-180$ while a 2500k w/ a mobo would be around 250$.

I obviously know the performance difference between the two from online comparisons, but I'm wondering how much of a difference there will be for gaming and whatnot, since it's paired with a decent gpu. I mean, the money saved could be put to a 7870 or something. Any thoughts?

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June 21, 2012 2:33:45 PM

Hmm ok... Would you reccomend the 2500k ? microcenter has it for 170. There's also the 975 for 130. I guess I'm looking for the best performance for price.
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June 21, 2012 2:35:44 PM

i5 is better if you can afford it with a decent GPU get it.

If getting the i5 means getting a crap GPU then get the Phenom

bear in mind you will need to OC that Phenom so add $ for a cooler
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June 21, 2012 2:38:42 PM

I could definitely afford it. I just thought that if I saved 70$ I could get a better gpe i.e. the 7870. But I guess that's a huge mismatch with a 965
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June 21, 2012 2:44:17 PM

An i5 2500k is miles better than a 965BE, source: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=102

I say go with the i5 2500k and the cheaper video card. If 1 year from now you hate your video card, you still have a viable upgrade path without having to change you motherboard and CPU, you just buy a new video card.
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June 21, 2012 2:44:44 PM

Well to be more precise neither of those CPU's is going to bottleneck a good single GPU setup but the 2500k is the stronger CPU so as long as you can afford the intel with a decent GPU its the best choice. However if buying the intel would mean getting a weak GPU then you may as well get the Phenom (overclocked) with a better GPU.
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June 21, 2012 2:46:12 PM

the microcenter deal offers very good performance per dollar for core i5 2500k compared to phenom ii x4 ($170 vs $130). from perf./dollar it's kind of a no-brainer. 2500k is more also power efficient than phenom.
if you aim for phenom considering cheaper cpu+mobo price and get advised that you can upgrade to piledriver later this year, keep in mind that pd cpus price gets added to the phenom deal i.e. core i5 2500k+ mobo vs phenom ii + pd cpu + mobo.
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June 21, 2012 3:19:48 PM

while the 2500k is a better performing cpu, saving $70 on an $800 build is significant. because neither an overclocked 965 or 2500 will bottleneck any gpu you are going to fit into an $800 budget i would lean towards the 965. You will get overall better gaming experience with 965+7870 compared to 2500k+7850. My choice would be 965+7870 unless you think there is a strong change you will add another 7850 in the future. even then i would probably go 965 and 7870.
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June 21, 2012 3:24:07 PM

ewood said:
while the 2500k is a better performing cpu, saving $70 on an $800 build is significant. because neither an overclocked 965 or 2500 will bottleneck any gpu you are going to fit into an $800 budget i would lean towards the 965. You will get overall better gaming experience with 965+7870 compared to 2500k+7850. My choice would be 965+7870 unless you think there is a strong change you will add another 7850 in the future. even then i would probably go 965 and 7870.


Hmm...that's interesting. If I did save significant money on the cpu/mobo I would def get the 7870. Though I feel that cpu-intensive games would suffer. Newegg has a 975 for 130, but that doesnt get the combo deal like microcenter has. dam this timing.
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June 21, 2012 3:32:07 PM

That is true. what games do you play? a lot of games will see a boost going from 965 to 2500k but that boost will be more than negated by going from a 7870 to a 7850.
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June 21, 2012 4:55:55 PM

ewood said:
That is true. what games do you play? a lot of games will see a boost going from 965 to 2500k but that boost will be more than negated by going from a 7870 to a 7850.


Everything current at 1920x1200/1080 . Skyrim, Max Payne 3, bf3, etc.
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June 21, 2012 5:38:47 PM

I agree my initial point was more aimed if getting the i5 meant you ended up with a gt440 or something.
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June 21, 2012 5:43:19 PM

yeah if those are your two options and skyrim is a title you want to perform well go for the 2500k. you can always add another 7850 down the road.
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June 21, 2012 6:06:30 PM

forget the benchmarks. FPS don't tell the whole story. I have an old Q9550/775 processor. Blows away anything AMD has to this point in time. Even though the "i" series will be EOL soon why would you build a new machine now and spend money on ancient technology... AMD ? The green team needs to reinvent their processor line.

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June 21, 2012 7:11:42 PM

Best answer selected by trflach.
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