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Local craigslist computer - what is a reasonable price for it?

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March 7, 2012 9:10:27 AM

hello. someone is selling a decent medium level computer - namely one with a 2.6 ghz AMD quad-core, 750GB (?brand?) drive, 8 GB GKSILL DDR3 memory, built-in graphics & a 24" Planar monitor.

without giving their price, what is a fair range for this - it is a brand-new enthusiast-build.

thanks -

joe
March 7, 2012 9:29:47 AM

Is that CPU a Athlon II X4 620? What motherboard?
Without further specific details ... like which 2.6 ghz AMD quad-core CPU, etc, etc., it's not easy to give an estimate.
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March 7, 2012 9:35:41 AM

Without the monitor, I'd estimate about $400 (with windows 7). Maybe <$600 total. Also, that computer is relativitly low end.
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March 7, 2012 9:43:16 AM

I saw a new HP Pavilion Slimline s5xt PC on sale for $400
Core i3-2120 CPU, 6GB RAM and 500GB HDD.
Not sure I'd jump on a 2yr old system(?) $400 PC without knowing exactly what is has.
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March 7, 2012 10:05:52 AM

hey - 'Life' lol -

@WR2: AMD Athlon II X4 631 Quad-Core; GIGABYTE GA-A75-UD4H motherboard. i can probably get more info.

@samulespark: ok. so <$600 with monitor & OS (how about if i opted for Linux/Ubuntu?)

just a word to you, WR2: i've owned 3 hp laptops, all have failed, 2 with overheating issues threatening a fire. (one burned a table before *I* - not the computer itself - shut it down.. right next to my bed...)

those were laptops, not.

anyway, thanks. good to see a active forum.

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March 7, 2012 10:06:23 AM

i also incorporate that they built it, not just a mere sum of parts prices...
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March 7, 2012 10:09:26 AM

How did you guess that?
From what you told us - there is no way of telling. It's probably a HP desktop.
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March 7, 2012 10:11:50 AM

I'm guessing you haven't called or emailed to ask more questions?
Why haven't you done that?
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March 7, 2012 10:48:09 AM

i said it was a enthusiast-build, if that's what you mean, WR2 -- ? -- is it?

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March 7, 2012 10:50:39 AM

_martymcfly_ said:
hey - 'Life' lol -

@WR2: AMD Athlon II X4 631 Quad-Core; GIGABYTE GA-A75-UD4H motherboard. i can probably get more info.

@samulespark: ok. so <$600 with monitor & OS (how about if i opted for Linux/Ubuntu?)

just a word to you, WR2: i've owned 3 hp laptops, all have failed, 2 with overheating issues threatening a fire. (one burned a table before *I* - not the computer itself - shut it down.. right next to my bed...)

those were laptops, not.

anyway, thanks. good to see a active forum.


Windows 7 is $100 so about $500.
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March 7, 2012 10:51:44 AM

_martymcfly_ said:
i said it was a enthusiast-build, if that's what you mean, WR2 -- ? -- is it?


It's not an enthuasiast build at all. By Tom's Hardware's definition, it's a totally awesome high end gaming computer.
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March 7, 2012 10:58:35 AM

both of you: i mean an enthusiast BUILT IT, not it's built FOR AN ENTHUSIAST.
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March 7, 2012 11:03:27 AM

with a cut-down, renamed Llano CPU Athlon II X4 631 Quad-Core?
Walk away.
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March 7, 2012 11:08:56 AM

_martymcfly_ said:
built-in graphics
Athlon II X4 631 Quad-Core is a Llano APU without the integrated graphics included.
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March 7, 2012 11:21:20 AM

Be careful buying off craigslist it is full of scams.

Don't buy unless you can meat in person.
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March 7, 2012 11:24:05 AM

WR2: so what are you telling me? it is looking like a fair cpu(/apu?? - haven't heard of apu). you might have a good point, just not sure what the unsaid point here is. that apu(..) has good reviews too... ?? help me out
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March 7, 2012 11:31:31 AM

It had mostly good reviews because it had that nice GPU included.
What are you buying the computer for?

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March 7, 2012 11:32:40 AM

What is the Craigslist ad asking for that system?
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March 11, 2012 8:27:41 AM

sorry for delays - are you saying the processor you linked is really good, & the one on this build is not, WR2?

i believe it does have built in graphics, not in the cpu/apu but in an onboard graphics processor, on the motherboard.
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March 11, 2012 8:50:02 AM

None of the socket FM1 motherboards I've seen have integrated graphics.

The processor I linked is the exact same APU as the Athlon II X4 631 Quad-Core. Except the Athlon II X4 631 doesn't have the built in graphics.

AMD Athlon II X4 631 2.60 GHz Quad-Core FM1 CPU Product Details
Note 1: This new design requires an FM1 socket and is not backwards compatible with the AM3 socket.

Note 2: This CPU does not include on-chip GPU. A separate Graphics Card is required for video output.
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March 13, 2012 8:49:36 AM

ah, my mistake.

so ok - i should just learn here: a cpu without on-chip gpu (an apu? <-- answer this), is not capable of having a on-(mother)board graphics/video output - or no?

another way of getting my little sidebar confusion cleared up, before we address this build - only a apu can do on-(mother)-board graphics? yes/no


lastly i should say: i didn't mean "i believe it does have built in graphics, not in the cpu/apu but in an onboard graphics processor, on the motherboard." but rather an onboard graphics whatever that is there when you have integrated/onboard video outs withouta video card.

the graphics card must've been omitted then.

thanks for your help - if you want to answer: are you in Europe / the U.K.? i am a night owl, seem to catch U.K. people on my schedule. thanks either way tho

joe
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March 13, 2012 9:08:43 AM

Only AMD is using the 'APU' label for CPU/GPU integration. Intel just call 'em all CPUs.

Before the current crop of APU / CPU with GPU on the CPU chip there were motherboards that included integrated graphics chip on the motherboard.
BIOSTAR A880G+ AM3 AMD 880G and it's motherboard integrated video chipset - ATI Radeon HD 4250 is an example.
A typical FM1/Llano motherboard: BIOSTAR A55MH FM1 AMD A55 does not have a motherboard integrated video chipset.
The motherboard DOES have built in video ports (HDMI, D-Sub + DVI) but depends on the APU for video output. Without an APU - like when using Athlon II X4 631 - it cannot output video and must have a separate video card.

AMD A6-3650 Llano 2.6GHz Socket FM1 would have working graphics
AMD Athlon II X4 631 2.60 GHz socket FM1 would not have working graphics - even though the chips are physically similar. The graphics section would have been disabled.
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March 13, 2012 9:22:41 AM

And since the vast majority of processors that fit in FM1 motherboards have built-in GPUs, there would be no market for an FM1 board that has an integrated GPU.

Without knowing the quality of the PSU in this build, you would have to give me money to take it.
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