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March 7, 2012 1:53:03 PM

Hello, I know little or nothing about computers, but I love playing world of Warcraft. Up until recently I have been playing on a hp laptop. Recently this laptop broke and I have been trying to find a good gaming deskto build that is also affordable. I would like the price range to be around $400-600, but if necessary I could go up to $800. First question is this even possible? If I can get a list of parts I have someone that would put it together for me.

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a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2012 2:11:44 PM

You should easily be able to build a decent gaming desktop for WoW at that budget.

This one would be ideal but possibly costs a little more than you were hoping.

Intel Core i5-2400
8GB Mushkin Silverline 1333Mhz
ASRock H61M/U3S3
Sapphire HD 6850 1GB
Seagate Barracuda 500GB
Corsair CX-430 430W
Fractal Design Core 1000
LG DVD Burner
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit OEM

Total - $738.91 (Newegg)

That's actually a bit overkill for WoW. It would give slightly better performance than my PC in games and I can play Skyrim on ultra high settings at 1920x1200 fine.

If you wanted to reduce the cost a bit you could reduce it to:

i3-2120
4GB RAM
HD 6770

This would still be great for WoW. (Still far better than almost any laptop.)
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a c 287 4 Gaming
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March 7, 2012 4:21:36 PM

jmsellars1 said:
You should easily be able to build a decent gaming desktop for WoW at that budget.

This one would be ideal but possibly costs a little more than you were hoping.

Intel Core i5-2400
8GB Mushkin Silverline 1333Mhz
ASRock H61M/U3S3
Sapphire HD 6850 1GB
Seagate Barracuda 500GB
Corsair CX-430 430W
Fractal Design Core 1000
LG DVD Burner
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit OEM

Total - $738.91 (Newegg)

That's actually a bit overkill for WoW. It would give slightly better performance than my PC in games and I can play Skyrim on ultra high settings at 1920x1200 fine.

If you wanted to reduce the cost a bit you could reduce it to:

i3-2120
4GB RAM
HD 6770

This would still be great for WoW. (Still far better than almost any laptop.)


Why H61? I think it's a huge moot point anymore when H67 and Z68 have far better expanadability options and Newegg dropped the price of Asrock's Z68 motherboard to an affordable $119.99

Try this:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99 ($10.00 MIR)
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX500 - $59.99 ($10.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Intel BOXDH67DLCB3 - $89.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i3-2120 - $129.99
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB 1600MHz - $44.99
HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $89.99
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 - $149.99 ($15.00 MIR)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium - $99.99

Total: $740.90 - $35.00 MIR = $705.90
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a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2012 5:13:52 PM

I don't see any problem with H61. He can't overclock that CPU anyway and I doubt he will want to upgrade to Ivy Bridge, the difference in performance won't be big enough to warrant buying another $200 CPU. Surely it's a better idea to just get better performance (i5) now.
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March 7, 2012 5:54:24 PM

For WoW, I don't think it will matter if you have an i3 instead of an i5. Also, unless you intend to game at or beyond 1080p in WoW, you might want a lower end video card, I'd go for the 6770 or 7750 here unless other games will also be played and 1080p is required. H67 is better than H61 simply because it is more robust. If you're not going to overclock, I say H67. If you will overclock, then Z68.

H61 often only has a 100Mb ethernet port instead of 1Gb, doesn't support faster than 1333MHz memory (although that's really not important), tends to only have 2 DIMM slots, and doesn't support CF, which may be important later on. I don't remember if H67 supports CF, but it probably does.

I recommend waiting for IB to come out and getting an IB i3 or i5 because it will have slightly better performance and lower power usage for the sme amount of money, or at least lower prices on SB i3s and i5s.

However, I do not suggest going down to 4GB of memory, keep it at 8GB.
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a c 287 4 Gaming
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March 7, 2012 5:58:52 PM

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H61 often only has a 100Mb ethernet port instead of 1Gb, doesn't support faster than 1333MHz memory (although that's really not important), tends to only have 2 DIMM slots, and doesn't support CF, which may be important later on. I don't remember if H67 supports CF, but it probably does.


Now this I did not know - I knew H61 was limited in functionality but I always thought 1GB/s ethernet cards were standard equipment on motherboards anymore - even my old Intel 975 board has the 1GB/S ethernet card. Good to know.

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I recommend waiting for IB to come out and getting an IB i3 or i5 because it will have slightly better performance and lower power usage for the sme amount of money, or at least lower prices on SB i3s and i5s.


You'll still be paying a premium for IB as opposed to what's out now - even on the lower-end chips. I don't usually recommend stuff that's not out yet until I see the actual numbers - especially after what AMD proved with the FX - sometimes it's not always worth the over-hype.

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However, I do not suggest going down to 4GB of memory, keep it at 8GB.


I definitely agree there.

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I don't see any problem with H61. He can't overclock that CPU anyway and I doubt he will want to upgrade to Ivy Bridge, the difference in performance won't be big enough to warrant buying another $200 CPU. Surely it's a better idea to just get better performance (i5) now.


You can't really go wrong either way - both will far outperform any AMD rig that's out there right now - even the $70 Pentium G620 outperforms the $250 FX-8150.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2012 6:03:22 PM

Yeah he can go either way on the H61 vs H67 thing but personally I'd go H61, I don't see him realistically using any of the extra features provided by H67.

(The ASRock board I recommended has gigabit ethernet.)
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a c 287 4 Gaming
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March 7, 2012 6:08:43 PM

jmsellars1 said:
Yeah he can go either way on the H61 vs H67 thing but personally I'd go H61, I don't see him realistically using any of the extra features provided by H67.

(The ASRock board I recommended has gigabit ethernet.)


Going with H61 is one thing, but I would not recommend mATX especially if any future expansion is planned.
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a b 4 Gaming
March 7, 2012 6:18:25 PM

You mean you don't recommend mATX? :p 
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March 7, 2012 6:34:37 PM

This advice all sounds pretty good. You could easily get the build as low as 400$ and still have better performance than a nice laptop.

I have heard that for WoW when lots of players on the screen it can be CPU intensive, so I would definitely get an i5 2400 or 2500K the price difference is not that big.

Also the 57xx/67xx/77xx(80-120$) cards would be fine for wow, even at very high settings. If you went up to a 58xx/68xx/78xx(140-250$) series you would be looking at great performance in any current game at moderate resolutions.
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March 7, 2012 7:04:24 PM

Awesome guys. This all gives me a great jumping off Point. Another question, would
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March 7, 2012 7:06:34 PM

Sorry trying to do this on my iPod. My question is would it be better to order all the parts from 1 site or shop around to see if I can find specials on certain parts?
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a c 287 4 Gaming
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March 7, 2012 7:14:43 PM

azeem40 said:
You mean you don't recommend mATX? :p 


Duh! Of course, too many things going on at once. :lol: 

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Sorry trying to do this on my iPod. My question is would it be better to order all the parts from 1 site or shop around to see if I can find specials on certain parts?


I generally try to buy everything from the same store as it makes returns / RMAs easier, but do what you want.
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March 8, 2012 2:50:05 AM

WoW is not an intensive game even in cities with lots of other players. I played it until several months after WotLK came out on an old P4 machine that has Hyper-Threadings, 2.5GB of memory, and what was the slowest Radeon of the time.

I didn't play far above minimum settings, and sometimes cities were problematic, but WoW has improved greatly and well before I stopped playing there was no place that caused me problems. If I played on a P4 (I was one of the better players on my server too, especially in PVP), there is no way you can't do it on an i3, even at higher settings.

I had the P4 630, a 3.0GHz HTT CPU with an eighty something watt TDP.
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April 5, 2012 8:30:49 PM

Alphaalphaalpha does not have your best interests in mind sir.

From everything I have read and heard about WoW is that the only part of you PC that does get taxed by the game is the CPU! I do not play WoW, nor do I intend to in order to shed any light onto this subject because many others have already gone over it in great detail.

Just check out this thread and it will give you an idea of how CPU limited WoW is in a large area.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/345312-33-upgraded-vi...
To sum up the thread is this "In WoW, I'm getting about 20 FPS with all settings maxed, at 1440x900 resolution. However, checking GPU-Z, I see that even at max settings and 20 FPS I'm only hitting 50% max GPU load"
He goes on to add "By the way, the 20 FPS is in a very crowded area in the game (lots of characters / models). I can get up to 60 in instances / less crowded areas."

60 is the vsync rate for most people's monitors, as in the game would be running faster but it automatically limits at 60 because the game won't look any better at higher framerates unless your monitor has a higher than 60hz refresh rate. When you FPS are hovering right around 60 that basically means your GPU has plenty more power, just the game doesn't need it right then.

For 800$ you could max out any modern game, and for 5-600 you can max out WoW not including potentially the most crowded areas. (who knows when an area might have 400 players rather than the usual 100, and this would have a big impact on performance in that area assuming they are all in your line of sight)
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April 5, 2012 8:42:39 PM



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That will play some wow, no extra graphics needed. If you order that get it built and you just hate the graphics quality then you can order a graphics card and get closer to your $800 max mark.
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