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March 8, 2012 4:55:56 PM


Approximate Purchase Date: Depending on the price ASAP

Budget Range: $600-800

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, 3D Modeling and Animation(Maya), 2D Graphics(Photoshop), Programming, Internet, Word

Parts Not Required: I will probably use my old mouse and keyboard, just need to dust them off, but I'll probably replace my monitor and speakers.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: None as long as the price is right.

Country: USA! USA!

Parts Preferences: None, which ever gives me the best bang for my buck

Overclocking: Maybe, I heard this shortens the computers life span?

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe, is it worth buying two lower/middle class cards and do this then buy a decent higher classed one?

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080/1920x1200

Additional Comments: I'm looking to play the following games as best I can: Skyrim, Battlefield 3, Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2. I work with Maya and Photoshop among other graphics programs so I'd like it able to handle that stuff to.

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Currently looking at right now

CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K

Motherboard:
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

GPU:
Haven't looked yet, suggestions?

Memory:
Haven't looked yet, suggestions?

PSU:
Haven't looked yet, suggestions?

HDD:
Should I go SSD? Are they still ridiculously expensive for their size?

Monitor:
Haven't looked yet, suggestions?

Case:
I have big hands so a good roomy case would be awesome to work with, my last case was ok, but it had a plastic see through side that got scratched badly and the side funnel had to be removed because of my CPU fan.

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March 8, 2012 6:00:51 PM

if you go with the i5-2500k and a ~$170 motherboard.. with a max $800 budget (and this is not including the monitor) - you won't have enough left for a decent video card, after you include 100 for the OS, 8GB RAM, good quality case, PSU, etc...

so here's what i'd recommend for you - scaling back the motherboard + CPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- COOLER MASTER HAF 912: $60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular: $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64: $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- LG 22X Super-Multi DVD Burner: $16

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM: $85

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0: $105

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz: $128

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333: $37

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- GIGABYTE GV-R687OC-1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB: $200

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB: $190

TOTAL: $786-$796

and remember - you can always upgrade the CPU later - with Ivy Bridge
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March 8, 2012 6:20:32 PM

^ You forgot to factor in the monitor to his budget.
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March 9, 2012 3:20:40 PM

wasupmike said:
if you go with the i5-2500k and a ~$170 motherboard.. with a max $800 budget (and this is not including the monitor) - you won't have enough left for a decent video card, after you include 100 for the OS, 8GB RAM, good quality case, PSU, etc...

so here's what i'd recommend for you - scaling back the motherboard + CPU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- COOLER MASTER HAF 912: $60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular: $65

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64: $100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- LG 22X Super-Multi DVD Burner: $16

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM: $85

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0: $105

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz: $128

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333: $37

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- GIGABYTE GV-R687OC-1GD Radeon HD 6870 1GB: $200

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB: $190

TOTAL: $786-$796

and remember - you can always upgrade the CPU later - with Ivy Bridge


Hmm this looks good, couple questions if I may. Will I see a drastic drop in performance dropping from the i5 to the i3? I won't mind pushing budget a little if it will get me a decent amount more life out of it. Although you said I could upgrade so that's a plus.

Also i know its asking much, but if you could explain your choices just for clarity sake that would be awesome. For example:

I noticed you picked a none SSD I'm guessing its still not worth it right now? Also for the graphics cards I'm guessing those are decent cards right now (for their price at least) would it pay to go lower and SLI them? (Just realized the board only has one 3.0 slot making this impossible)Which speaking of which I noticed one choice was a Radeon I thought Intel went hand in hand with Nvidea?I'm probably delusional though. Is there a benefit to one or the other? Also like the next person said there's no monitor or speakers for that matter, but in the interest of staying lower price I could probably forgo speakers since I will mostly being using a headset.

What would you say the lifespan of this build would be and upgrade potential you already mentioned upgrading to Ivy bridge, it has 4 slots for memory so that's good, but only one slot for a graphics card.

Thank you for taking the time to help me btw it is much appreciated.
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March 9, 2012 7:57:46 PM

Bakuryu42 said:
Hmm this looks good, couple questions if I may. Will I see a drastic drop in performance dropping from the i5 to the i3? I won't mind pushing budget a little if it will get me a decent amount more life out of it. Although you said I could upgrade so that's a plus.

-> no, for gaming you definitely won't see a drastic drop in performance.. the i3-2120 is quite the little gaming beast on a budget... and also you'd want to invest less now on a CPU, when upgrading to Ivy Bridge (if need be), available just a few months from now

Also i know its asking much, but if you could explain your choices just for clarity sake that would be awesome. For example:

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case: for $60 you can't beat the excellent quality build + cooling of the popular HAF 912
PSU: always important to get a power supply from a reliable manufacturer (Antec, Corsair, SeaSonic) - for that system you'll be safe with 550w no problem.. and that one is modular too
mobo: great price for a Z68 board that's a GEN3, SATA6, USB3.0 and will be a decent overclocker, should you choose to put an Ivy Bridge 'K' CPU down the road
RAM: reliable 8GB of Mushkin RAM (you won't need more than 8GB of RAM for gaming... even further down the road, it's pretty future proof)
CPU: the best gaming CPU at its price point.. and you'll be able to replace it with the 1155 compatible Ivy Bridge
ODD + HDD: your standard drives within your kind of budget - you won't be able to fit a proper SSD without sacrificing video gaming at your budget... and you can always add one in the future at any time...
GPU: best to get a single card.. the best you can afford at the time. more than 90% of people don't eventually CF/SLI... for simple reasons - compatibility and driver issues with certain games, (and if a game doesn't work at all, your down to using 1 weaker card), much more power usage (you'd have to get a more powerful PSU too), and mainly because any mid-range card today around the ~$200 mark, can handle pretty much anything these days at high quality, as long as you're on 1 x monitor. and when that card won't be enough - you can upgrade to what would probably be a card 2 generations down the road.. then you won't have to hassle with all the issues mentioned before... and keep getting the perks that come with new gen cards


I noticed you picked a none SSD I'm guessing its still not worth it right now? Also for the graphics cards I'm guessing those are decent cards right now (for their price at least) would it pay to go lower and SLI them? (Just realized the board only has one 3.0 slot making this impossible)Which speaking of which I noticed one choice was a Radeon I thought Intel went hand in hand with Nvidea?I'm probably delusional though. Is there a benefit to one or the other? Also like the next person said there's no monitor or speakers for that matter, but in the interest of staying lower price I could probably forgo speakers since I will mostly being using a headset.

What would you say the lifespan of this build would be and upgrade potential you already mentioned upgrading to Ivy bridge, it has 4 slots for memory so that's good, but only one slot for a graphics card.

-> at least 4-5 years... if you upgrade to Ivy Bridge... and maybe the GPU two generations from now...


Thank you for taking the time to help me btw it is much appreciated.

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March 9, 2012 10:45:58 PM

For your purpose, I don't suggest dropping to running Maya and Photoshop (Specially not heavy) on an i3 2100. Although your build maybe a gaming build, you have to have the CPU power for that and Photoshop as well.

To answer your question about overclocking, no it doesn't shorten the life that much depending on how high you need to tweak the voltage. However at your budget, I suggest going with the i5 2400 and trying to conserve money for the CPU and GPU.

Check out my $650 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Drop down the motherboard to this one and save money ($20 to be exact): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Then, when it releases in 1-2 weeks, get the 7850 for $250 (+$90):
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...
Total: $720 w/o rebates/monitor.

Why do I say go with the 7850? It's easily the best bet at $250, the newly implemented GCN arch gives the 7xxx a huge boost in computing power over the older 6xxx cards, maybe not huge I guess but a large increase. Although you can go 560 Ti getting CUDA, for 1080P resolution the 78xx wins out around the same price w/o much sacrifice to the synthetic part of things. Though I'm not sure how Maya will update to complement GCN so a little iffy on that. Synthetics of the 7850/7870 are here:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...

As for the monitor, buy it later. Easily the most important thing is staying in your budget but also getting good parts for your budget, and at $720 getting a card more than capable of running MAYA and games at 1080P is pretty solid, the 2400 is in no ways slow at all. It's a great chip and will run like an i5 2500K (Stock).
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March 9, 2012 11:33:22 PM

Hmm lots of food for thought.

Wasupmike: How would you build run maya? I mean I'm running a Core 2 Duo 3 2.53 GHZ, 6GB of Ram and a Geforce GTX 260M and it runs Maya pretty decently, although its kinda choking on Unity, but this thing hasn't been acting right lately.


Aznshinobi: I won't be gaming and doing photoshop at the same time is it really that taxing? Like I said it seems to run fine on my Core 2 Duo, but I guess it could run better. What are the differences between the motherboard you are suggestion and the one wasupmike suggested? I've been out of the game for a while in terms of graphics cards, what am I looking for here? Obviously bang for buck, I know there are types of graphics cards such as ones used more for 3D graphic design vs gaming, and also there are ones for gaming that work decently for both. What is synthetics exactly? Also is ok to have intel cpu and ati graphics?


Monitor: So the monitor has to wait? Theres no good(decently priced) monitors on the market? Or not worth sacrificing for the other parts? In which case I have a "22 Monitor I could use in the mean time I just figured HDMI would be nice to have for greater visuals.
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March 9, 2012 11:55:29 PM

Bakuryu42 said:
Hmm lots of food for thought.

Wasupmike: How would you build run maya? I mean I'm running a Core 2 Duo 3 2.53 GHZ, 6GB of Ram and a Geforce GTX 260M and it runs Maya pretty decently, although its kinda choking on Unity, but this thing hasn't been acting right lately.


Aznshinobi: I won't be gaming and doing photoshop at the same time is it really that taxing? Like I said it seems to run fine on my Core 2 Duo, but I guess it could run better. What are the differences between the motherboard you are suggestion and the one wasupmike suggested? I've been out of the game for a while in terms of graphics cards, what am I looking for here? Obviously bang for buck, I know there are types of graphics cards such as ones used more for 3D graphic design vs gaming, and also there are ones for gaming that work decently for both. What is synthetics exactly? Also is ok to have intel cpu and ati graphics?


Monitor: So the monitor has to wait? Theres no good(decently priced) monitors on the market? Or not worth sacrificing for the other parts? In which case I have a "22 Monitor I could use in the mean time I just figured HDMI would be nice to have for greater visuals.


HDMI and DVI both produce the same image quality at 1080P.
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March 10, 2012 2:07:57 AM

SingingThroughTheStorm said:
HDMI and DVI both produce the same image quality at 1080P.

Really? How is that possible? *Mind blown*
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March 10, 2012 4:13:24 AM

Almost all the 21.5-22" monitors are $130+ if they are 1080P. Yes depending on the settings games are rather taxing now, the difference between my suggested motherboard and mike's is mine is a different chipset (H61) which wouldn't allow for overclocking even if you had an i5 2500K. However, with Mike's board you still don't get Crossfire or SLI support so you might as well save.

I know you won't be running games with photoshop at the sime time howerver Photoshop is very taxing this depends on how much you actually edit though. Whether or not you use high-res photos (18 MP photos) and how heavy hardcore you edit.

The 7850 as I stated will be your best bet for best bang for the buck. I can guarantee you this.

Synthetics are benchmarks not using the FPS part of the GPU but testing the GPU's potential besides in games. Though it can be a wide variety of "synthetic" benchmarks, 3DMark is one for example. I only bring up synthetics because the GCN architecture on the 7850 will help for your Maya and etc.

As for any things you've heard about Nvidia being better with Intel or AMD with, now, AMD. Just throw those myths out the door. Solely base decisions on research, don't take what people say as the truth. IE "Clock speed matters" or "Nvidia is better" (it surprises me people even think this just because it's baseless statement but people believe it.

Also things like AMD has bad drivers are false, they have improved by a huge margin since a few years ago.

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March 11, 2012 1:19:39 AM

A 22" monitor is fine, there is no reason to upgrade.

As for the overclock, it depends how much you overclock. If you want to you can always go with the 2500K+Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 which would run you $90 more.

The issues will subside, definitely within a month mainly because they will narrow out the kinks with the drivers and the issues were compatibility related, they used the LGA 2011 board with the newer i7 3xxx which weren't fully compatible. But I'm sure the card with an older Sandy Bridge i5 2500K would be fine.l

The 7850 releases in a week according to the article, it'll be, should be, released March 15th.
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March 12, 2012 2:57:05 PM

Wouldnt the ability to overclock be worth the extra money? Also all of this doesn't factor in the $100 for the OS.
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March 12, 2012 9:52:13 PM

Again, it all depends on how much you overclock but yes it's definitely worth it if you will be overclocking.
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March 12, 2012 10:03:21 PM

I've never done it before, is it something you do right off the bat or something you do late down the line?
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March 12, 2012 10:28:48 PM

Either, no real negatives if you do it correctly. Youtube a few guides and you'll be good to go or headover to the overclock forums on here.
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March 14, 2012 5:40:12 PM

So other part wise do you recommend your build with that card? what the difference memory/PSU wise?
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March 14, 2012 9:29:39 PM

I wouldn't change any suggestions other that the 7850 from my recommendation of $650
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore

If you want the recommendations for the i5 2500K, just switch the motherboard to the $850 build...
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March 15, 2012 2:44:26 PM

How big of a difference is the i5-2400K vs the 2500k? Price and performance
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March 15, 2012 3:26:46 PM

2400 is a non 'k'.locked multipliers :( 
2500k is a great chip.OC it and it can beat i7 in gaming.
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March 15, 2012 3:47:04 PM

I wouldn't OC. And if you arent going to OC then just get the 2400
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March 15, 2012 6:07:39 PM

hellfire24 said:
2400 is a non 'k'.locked multipliers :( 
2500k is a great chip.OC it and it can beat i7 in gaming.

So basically you can't overclock one? theres no other difference?

badjad05 said:
I wouldn't OC. And if you arent going to OC then just get the 2400

Did you mean it wouldn't OC, or you really ment I wouldn't OC? if the lather then why?
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March 15, 2012 10:53:03 PM

Badjad, I believe, means that HE personally wouldn't overclock and because of this if you didn't overclock you should just go with the i5 2400.

In simple terms Bakuryu.
If you plan to overclock, get the i5 2500K, if not go with the i5 2400.

There is no i5 2400K, there is no K annotation chip that is an i5 other than the i5 2500K. The K annotation means you can overclock. Just know that.
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March 17, 2012 10:09:54 PM

wow the Radeon HD 7850 just came out only two versions on newegg and their sold out wtf?

Current Build:


CPU:
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BX80623I52500K-Core-i5-2500K-Processor/dp/B004EBUXHQ%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB004EBUXHQ

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157279&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=9l5j83u1tof3

or

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-DDR3-Motherboard-GA-Z68A-D3H-B3/dp/B00518M77U%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00518M77U


GPU:
Radeon HD 7850

Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226249&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=aemsflltvw02

or

http://www.amazon.com/PNY-PC3-10666-1333MHz-Desktop-MD8192KD3-1333/dp/B004DHNAGM%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB004DHNAGM

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1c1tnc9vir39b

HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767

Monitor:
Keeping the same

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1ko6axyvz7ct7

OS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=aemtywy1zigm

DVD Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1rql5b3545yti

Is PNY worth the extra couple bucks? Also how is the case you suggest vs the Cool master?

Need to adds this up again to check budget
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March 18, 2012 12:31:17 AM

Both ram kits would be the same in performance, just save and go with the mushkin. As for the motherboard, go with the Gigabyte, I say this because even though the Gigabyte doesn't have Gen3 support, it still will be able to use Ivy Bridge but also it has multiple PCI 2.0 slots which will allow you to SLI/CF in the future at 8x/8x as opposed to the Asrock.

For the case the HAF 912 is a great case.

Everything looks good, the 7850 are sold out as other companies haven't supplied enough for launch volume.
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March 18, 2012 3:30:39 AM

Theres no need way to preorder them or something?

Just added it up total before tax is $959.90 which is a bit over budget...

If I switch to the 2400 and the original motherboard you suggested its comes to $860.91 before tax a little bit better, the question is the $100 dollar difference worth the ability to overclock. If I overclock this will I get such a performance boost that I will definitely notice and be really useful to me? Simple version: Worth it?
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March 18, 2012 3:36:59 AM

The 7850 CF setup was very interesting for me. Quite a bit higher FPS than a single 7970 for less, plus a lesser PSU for CFing the 7850.
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March 18, 2012 4:32:29 AM

From your standpoint of staying to the budget. No it's not worth it. The i5 2400's performance is more than enough for a standard user and the board gives you all the features you need. The only thing is that it can't SLI/CF as it only has one slot.

Overall it isn't a huge deal as the i5 2400's stock performance is already good and the board is average w/ the features included. Overclocking is really only for those of use who really want those bragging rights.
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March 18, 2012 8:39:28 PM

Ok I'll probably go that route. In terms of brands for the Radeon HD 7850 any preferences or better company's to look for? Sapphire, PNY, etc.

Edit: If I can even find one when the hell are they going to be instock again?
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March 18, 2012 9:33:44 PM

Sapphire, XFX, Asus, MSI and Gigabyte provide solid cards usually.

They are not yet launch volume, probably tuesday or monday of this week is when they'll be in stock. Just be patient. So have we answered all your questions? Best answer and close thread?
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March 19, 2012 3:49:41 AM

Touch choice you and wassupmike, but you were kinda more active? props to both of you though I appreciate the help final build:

CPU:
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-2400-Socket-LGA1155-Processor/dp/B004EBUXIA%3FSubscriptionId%3D19BAZMZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2%26tag%3Dsquid1240995-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB004EBUXIA

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241&Tpk=h61%20vs


GPU:
Radeon HD 7850 (where ever I can get one)

Memory:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226249&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=aemsflltvw02

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1c1tnc9vir39b

HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767

Monitor:
Keeping the same

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1ko6axyvz7ct7

OS:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=aemtywy1zigm

DVD Drive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1rql5b3545yti

Total Cost: $860.91 without shipping + tax

Last thing, CPU Fan, is the stock enough or what? I could reuse my gigantic zalman, but the things a pain to put on.
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March 19, 2012 5:25:16 AM

If you don't overclock the stock one is fine. If you will, get the CM Hyper 212+
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March 19, 2012 12:39:21 PM

I thought I couldn't overclock with 2400 and the mobo you suggested?

Edit: The 7850 I'm looking at is 269.99 says OC (overclocked??) is that good or bad I can OC other parts besides the CPU without the proper MOBO right?

Also should I just chill for a better price or is that good?
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March 19, 2012 9:30:22 PM

Ahh you're going with the i5 2400, yeah the stock cooler is fine.

OC parts like the GPU is fine, well it's the only part that is going to come stock OC'd. Youo can get it now or later when price drops however don't expect the price to drop soon until Nvidia drops their response.
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March 20, 2012 11:45:59 PM

Paper launch will never be the same as actual launch as manufacturers have the right to price it the way they want. Ideally it was supposed to be 250. But if it's 260, it's 260. If by 10$ more you mean $10 more than $260 I don't think it's worth it. If you mean $10 more than the $250 mark then it's fine.
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March 22, 2012 3:23:55 AM

Ordered I'm super pumped, dropped the DVD drive since I have one already use two promocodes for the memory and the processor. Was originally going to get it on Amazon for 179 free shipping, but Newegg had 189 %10 promo with free shipping came out to less and it should come with the rest of the stuff now. The graphics card had the same thing kinda, Amazon wanted 259 non OC free shipping, but 2 to for weeks shipping. Newegg was 259 OC with shipping and hopefully like the rest will come with everything.

Thank you so much everyone who posted.
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March 22, 2012 3:24:38 AM

Best answer selected by Bakuryu42.
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March 22, 2012 3:37:20 AM

Alright sounds good and good luck!
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