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New Gaming PC - $650 (with old GPU) or $950 (with new GPU) ?

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March 9, 2012 12:17:43 PM

Hello, a few words of explanation before i start:

- Build doesn't include monitor - old one stays: Iiyama Prolite 22'' 1680x1050
- Build doesn't include HDD/SSD, because i recently bought Corsair SSD Force Series 3 120 GB.
- My old VGA card (over which I wonder if it should stay) is Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Toxic 1GB.
- Rest of important parts from my old configuration are:
* CPU Intel C2D E8400 (@3.6GHz with Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B)
* Mobo Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3LR
* Mems OCZ 2x 2GB DDR3 CL7 @1200MHz
* AC Rasurbo DLP 535W (which starts failing)
* HDD WD 300GB SataII 5400RPM

My point is to spend max $950 and gain as much performace as i can.
After reading some hardware reviews i planned something like this:

- CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3,3 GHz 6MB cache s. 1155 Box : ~$260
- Mobo ASUS P8Z68-V LX Z68 ATX s.1155 : ~$120
- Mems Kingston HyperX 2x4GB DDR3-1600 Dual Chanel Kit Non-ECC CL9 Grey XMP : ~$60
- AC OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP-EU 600W : ~$105
- Case SilentiumPC Brutus 430 Pure Black BT-430 : ~$55 (optional)

To sum up: $600 or ($545 if i use old cover)

Few more informations based on *How To Ask For New Build Advice* topic:

Approximate Purchase Date: Next week, but im not in hurry

Budget Range: $600 - ~$950

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, streaming videos to PS3 console over LAN

Parts Not Required: Monitor, all external parts like mouse and keyboard, (maybe) graphics card

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Since i live in Poland, all prices i wrote are just calculated from our own currency to dolars using Google calculator, therefore you may see a lot of differences in prices between what i passed and what you see in shops with default dolar currency. You can link to whatever sites you use - i will take the names and check prices in local shops anyway.

Country: Poland, as said before

Parts Preferences: Intel 2500K is certainty in this build, with rest of parts i'll just listen to your advices, since you're experts here :) 

Overclocking: Yes, CPU till 4.2 - 4.5GHz

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 as said before, would be nice if build could also handle 1920x1080 in case of future monitor change


And now my series of question - pointed so it's easier to answer:

1. Should i move my old Radeon 5850 to new build or should i buy new card? Was thinking of:
a) GeForce GTX 560Ti (~$290), but don't know if performance gain would be worth the price
b) GeForce GTX 570 (~$420) - performance gain would be much more likely visible, but on the other hand i would have to go over $950 total (can do if i hear it's really worth it)

2. Are the parts of new configuration fine? Especially Mobo, cause at first i couldn't decide if i should go get P67 or Z68 (don't need integrated VGA) and then couldn't decide which Mobo should i choose.
Was reading a lot of reviews of both chipset based Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and Asrock but seems all have pros and cons.
Mobos i was taking into account were at ~$130 limit - maybe i should keep my old case and invest that money in better Mobo?


Thank you very much in advance for all your help and advices.

P.S. Sorry for possible mistakes in English.

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March 9, 2012 12:45:19 PM

gipson said:
And now my series of question - pointed so it's easier to answer:

1. Should i move my old Radeon 5850 to new build or should i buy new card? Was thinking of:
a) GeForce GTX 560Ti (~$290), but don't know if performance gain would be worth the price
b) GeForce GTX 570 (~$420) - performance gain would be much more likely visible, but on the other hand i would have to go over $950 total (can do if i hear it's really worth it)

2. Are the parts of new configuration fine? Especially Mobo, cause at first i couldn't decide if i should go get P67 or Z68 (don't need integrated VGA) and then couldn't decide which Mobo should i choose.
Was reading a lot of reviews of both chipset based Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and Asrock but seems all have pros and cons.
Mobos i was taking into account were at ~$130 limit - maybe i should keep my old case and invest that money in better Mobo?


Thank you very much in advance for all your help and advices.

P.S. Sorry for possible mistakes in English.


1. good question - since you have a 5850 now (which is still a good card, especially if your resolution is 1680x1050), i would WAIT to upgrade the video card, until the rest of AMD's 7xxx line-up hits the stores (the 78xx cards, which is around your performance level you're seeking, should be around within a couple of weeks), as well as the new Nvidia cards should be releasing too very soon. then you'll have a better upgrade path from the 5850 to choose from, with the next generation cards coming out soon

2. the configuration is fine - the motherboard is fine too, however, i think when building a new modern PC, things like front USB3.0 and PCIe GEN3 should be considered too - have a look at these boards:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0: ~$140

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0: ~$150

March 9, 2012 12:59:09 PM

Thanks!

To be honest i was taking Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P into account but... it costs almost $190 here :/ 

On the other hand if i were to keep old graphics card for now and but some when next generation comes, then i would be able to pay few dolars more for better mobo.

About PCIe 3.0 - well, from what i read it's just marketing thing and graphic cards max speeds are maxed at PCIe 1.1 x16 or PCIe 2.0 x8 anyway - but that's just what i read, not sure tho. Thanks for pointing that out.

And about USB3.0 - yeah, i forgot to write about it - would be nice. Also 2x SataIII ports is a must cause im planning to buy another SSD in the future for RAID.
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March 9, 2012 1:06:03 PM

ya, i would keep your old card, invest a little more now on the platform.. then get the newer generation video cards down the road.. then you'll have a nice future-proof system..!
March 9, 2012 1:22:30 PM

No disagreements with wasupmike that aren't niggling.
March 9, 2012 1:25:35 PM

Ok, so:

- I switched AC to little cheaper,
- Added mobo that u linked to the build,
- Removed cover from the build (cause will use old one)

and it looks like this now:

- GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P Z68 s.1155
- Intel Core i5-2500K 3,3 GHz 6MB cache s. 1155 Box
- Kingston HyperX 2x4GB DDR3-1600 Dual Chanel Kit Non-ECC CL9 Grey XMP KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX
- Chieftec CTG-600-80P A80 Series Bulk 600W

Total: $602

Another question:
Should i go for Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 CMPSU-600CXV2EU 600W instead of AC listed above?

Again, thanks for advices - further ones are still appreciated - i will be buying parts next week!
March 9, 2012 1:37:14 PM

gipson said:
Another question:
Should i go for Corsair Builder Series CX600 V2 CMPSU-600CXV2EU 600W instead of AC listed above?

Again, thanks for advices - further ones are still appreciated - i will be buying parts next week!


yes, go with the Corsair for sure

April 10, 2012 10:18:35 AM

Hello!

Sorry for refreshing old topic, but it's the same case - back then I haven't bought new PC after all and had to postpone it...
Today I did some more research on hardware, recounted my budget (which is a little higher now) and got that build already in shopping cart:

Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Z68 ATX s.1155: $219
CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3 GHz 6MB cache s. 1155 Box: $251
AC OCZ StealthXStream 2 OCZ600SXS2-EU 600W: $89
Memory Kingston HyperX 2x4GB DDR3-1600 CL9 Grey XMP: $55
Case SilentiumPC Brutus 410 Pure Black BT-410: $44
DVD LiteOn DVDRW+- iHAS122 SATA OEM Black: $20
CPU Cooler SilentiumPC Fortis HE1225: $44
Additional Case Cooler Enermax T.B. Silence UCTB12 120mm: $11
Thermal Grease for CPU Zalman ZM-STG1: $12

Total: $745

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Q1 I decided to go for ASUS mobo instead of Gigabyte and OCZ AC instead of Corsair. Is this build OK?

Q2 Also my budget allows me to buy graphics card now and i was thinking if it's really worth changing my old card (Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 Toxic 1GB) to something like ASUS Geforce GTX560Ti 1024MB 256bit PCI-E TOP DirectCU II? I can't afford new 680 series, so that's not an option.

Anyway, just wanted to get last one support / advice / hint / adjustment on current build from someone experienced before i click "order" :) 
Thank you very much in advance!
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