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Should I really get a Geforce 580 (Fermi)?

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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:13:30 AM

Uh I can't see your build, please try again? I would like to see all of your parts before suggesting you a choice.
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a c 162 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:21:56 AM

We cannot go onto a secure HTTPS without logging onto your Newegg account.
Take a screenshot and post the images.
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January 6, 2012 6:24:55 AM

Oops, I forgot to use public wishlist. Hold on a sec. :p 
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January 6, 2012 6:25:43 AM

I updated first post. It should show them now.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:30:31 AM

That ram costs waaaaay too much and you don't need thermal grease as the heatsink already comes with it. A gtx 580 is not worth your setup at all, because the 7970 is right around the corner and outperforms it.
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January 6, 2012 6:33:56 AM

OMG, I totally forgot to mention that in my first post. I do plan to get the 7970 depending on its price. Still though, is the PC overkill, even for future-proofing? I also read in places that it is better to spend less and just upgrade sooner. Is that true?
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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:34:52 AM

The stuff you selected is way too overpriced :C
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January 6, 2012 6:35:47 AM

I asked in the new builds section and it was what they suggested.

azeem40 said:
OMG, I totally forgot to mention that in my first post. I do plan to get the 7970 depending on its price. Still though, is the PC overkill, even for future-proofing? I also read in places that it is better to spend less and just upgrade sooner. Is that true?

At above, the source of the future-proof thing was this: http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/diqq9/your_th....
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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:37:11 AM

Get the corsair vengeance ram 2x 4gb and do you live near a microcenter?
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January 6, 2012 6:38:52 AM

Yes I do. I was gonna buy the CPU there for $40 off.
Also, the Corsair Vengeance is $5 more than the RAM I currently have in my wishlist.
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a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:39:08 AM

Personally I would wait for the 7970 to come out and then try to pick up a couple 6950s, or even a 5970. They should go down in price again.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:40:00 AM

Ok, get the gigabyte z68x-ud3h that is a great board and is on sale for 100 with the 50 buck off deal. Also a 580 is not worth it atm. What games do you play? Also what resolutioN?
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January 6, 2012 6:42:24 AM

I want a build that will last about 5 years, unless it is better to upgrade earlier. I currently am a beginner (been away for many years) so I am just trying to get in to the latest games out. They are, but not limited to, BF, CoD, Half-Life, SWTOR, Diablo, Runescape, GTA, Need for Speed.

EDIT: I checked out the MOBO. It is $150, so $100 when price reduction, but it should work I guess. Any reason you suggest it?
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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:44:13 AM

You can upgrade next year If you want, because ivybridge uses the same socket. I say a gtx 560ti or radeon 6950 would fit your needs perfectly.
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January 6, 2012 6:45:23 AM

The thing is, the $ I got was Bday $ and I'm unemployed. Been looking for a job for 2 years.
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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 6:52:09 AM

Spend that money on food....?
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January 6, 2012 7:06:40 AM

I live at home. The only advice you really gave was the mobo...
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a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 7:10:11 AM

azeem40 said:
I want a build that will last about 5 years, unless it is better to upgrade earlier. I currently am a beginner (been away for many years) so I am just trying to get in to the latest games out. They are, but not limited to, BF, CoD, Half-Life, SWTOR, Diablo, Runescape, GTA, Need for Speed.

EDIT: I checked out the MOBO. It is $150, so $100 when price reduction, but it should work I guess. Any reason you suggest it?



Get the Gigabyte z68 mobo from Microcenter. It's $100 after rebate. Better quality than Asrock. As you noticed, the CPU is only $179 there also. Unless you plan to seriously over clock it, get the cheapest name brand ram they got. Other than the fancy heat spreaders for looks, the others really aren't necessary.
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January 6, 2012 7:25:18 AM

Thanks. You helped. :) 
So the 7970 is fine to get?
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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 7:29:08 AM

What resolution?
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January 6, 2012 7:52:33 AM

1920*1080
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a c 109 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 7:55:28 AM

Nah, 7970 is complete overkill for that resolution, A 6970 or 570 will fullfill your needs for the next few years.
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a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 11:06:06 AM

amuffin said:
Nah, 7970 is complete overkill for that resolution, A 6970 or 570 will fullfill your needs for the next few years.


I will be running a 7970 for 1680x1050 - It will perform much faster than anything else regardless of resolution. It's also one of the few cards that have the power to run Metro 2033 @ Max with DoF on - Try doing that at 1680x1050 with a 570 and you will cry.
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a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 1:33:35 PM

amuffin said:
Nah, 7970 is complete overkill for that resolution, A 6970 or 570 will fullfill your needs for the next few years.


I hate when the old-school gamers say this. 7970 is not overkill for 1920x1080. Some gamers like myself like to play the newest games with maxed out graphics @ a extra smooth constant 60fps. The 570 will be crippled by some of these GPU intensive games.

7970 is a beast dude. Get it if u got the money for it.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 4:49:06 PM

deadjon said:
I will be running a 7970 for 1680x1050 - It will perform much faster than anything else regardless of resolution. It's also one of the few cards that have the power to run Metro 2033 @ Max with DoF on - Try doing that at 1680x1050 with a 570 and you will cry.

That alone might make it worth something. :lol: 
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January 6, 2012 5:21:38 PM

Thanks for all the help. I will go with the 7970.
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January 6, 2012 5:27:25 PM

amuffin said:
Nah, 7970 is complete overkill for that resolution, A 6970 or 570 will fullfill your needs for the next few years.

No, its really not. Overkill is when you get like 120 fps at completely maxed out settings. A 7970 will allow you max out settings on the newest games at 1080p and keep a solid 60 fps.

If your only expecting to play games on medium or high settings and/or your only expecting to get 30 fps, then yeah a 7970 would be overkill.
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January 6, 2012 5:30:41 PM

Mousemonkey said:
That alone might make it worth something. :lol: 

+1^ I would not mind a 7970/50 for my 1680x1050 monitor 60fps on every game FTW ! 6950 and 570 have a time with the high end titles at leased from what I have witnessed even on 1050P reso.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 5:37:32 PM

Red Team FTW said:
+1^ I would not mind a 7970/50 for my 1680x1050 monitor 60fps on every game FTW ! 6950 and 570 have a time with the high end titles at leased from what I have witnessed even on 1050P reso.

Check your PM's.
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January 6, 2012 5:41:08 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Check your PM's.

I am new to Toms how do I check PMs ?
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a c 272 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 5:43:13 PM

Unhide the right column.
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January 6, 2012 5:45:55 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Unhide the right column.

Thanx for the info :-)


RED TEAM FTW 1
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January 6, 2012 5:47:15 PM

If OPs budget is unlimited 7970 FTW

RED TEAM FTW !
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a c 80 U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 5:49:56 PM

Red Team FTW said:
I am new to Toms how do I check PMs ?

hea...y redteam_ftw, :hello:  and welcome to tomshardware.
@OP: the 580 might not be worth the price since this year both amd and nvidia are releasing new architecture pcie 3 cards.
when are you buying the pc?
ivy bridge will bring native pcie 3.0 support in a few months. according to the speculations, z77 motherboard (top of the line intel pch) will support pcie 3.0 x8+x8 cfx/sli. that will sit perfectly with the new crop of pcie 3 cards. although, so far gaming hasn't shown any improvement over pcie 2.0. hopefull it'll change in the future.
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January 6, 2012 5:57:57 PM

de5_Roy said:
hea...y redteam_ftw, :hello:  and welcome to tomshardware.
@OP: the 580 might not be worth the price since this year both amd and nvidia are releasing new architecture pcie 3 cards.
when are you buying the pc?
ivy bridge will bring native pcie 3.0 support in a few months. according to the speculations, z77 motherboard (top of the line intel pch) will support pcie 3.0 x8+x8 cfx/sli. that will sit perfectly with the new crop of pcie 3 cards. although, so far gaming hasn't shown any improvement over pcie 2.0. hopefull it'll change in the future.

Hi http://img.tomshardware.com/forum/uk/icones/smilies/hel... and thanx I to the OP I must agree with ( de5_roy ) about PCI-E 3.0 don't let that sway your opinion because PCI-E 2.0 x16 is still far from bottlenecking even the highest end/Performance Radeon HD 6990 Dual GPU card and aside from bandwidth increases that will not be needed or used for the next gen of cards on PCI-E 3 it will just drive up cost.
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January 6, 2012 6:35:48 PM

Red Team FTW said:
Hi http://img.tomshardware.com/forum/uk/icones/smilies/hel... and thanx I to the OP I must agree with ( de5_roy ) about PCI-E 3.0 don't let that sway your opinion because PCI-E 2.0 x16 is still far from bottlenecking even the highest end/Performance Radeon HD 6990 Dual GPU card and aside from bandwidth increases that will not be needed or used for the next gen of cards on PCI-E 3 it will just drive up cost.

That's correct.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

As for this upcoming generation (well next two generations) pcie 2 is still more than adequate for video cards. Now 4+ years from now with future architectures, pcie 3 will make more of a difference. I believe pcie 3.0 is more for future pcie 3 ssd cards.
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January 6, 2012 7:09:27 PM

I am buying the PC at the end of this month or the first few days of February.
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January 6, 2012 7:35:03 PM

you could do..
1. buy that gtx580, if you got money, just will do every game in 1080p.
2. wait for 2 months more.. and buy that 7970.. again if you got the money
3. if you regret it.. sell the 580 after 7970 available, and just buy 7970.
4. no more confusion.
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January 6, 2012 8:11:18 PM

I could wait to build it, but I've already made two topics in New Build and they might get annoyed that I am so indecisive. :p 
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a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 8:52:50 PM

atikkur said:
you could do..
1. buy that gtx580, if you got money, just will do every game in 1080p.
2. wait for 2 months more.. and buy that 7970.. again if you got the money
3. if you regret it.. sell the 580 after 7970 available, and just buy 7970.
4. no more confusion.



What? Everything u just said was a big ball of confusion.

1. If u buy hardware and sell it used u are going to loose money. Waste.

2. Why buy the 7970 in 2 months? It releaes in a couple days. It's not like the price is going to drop by then......
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January 6, 2012 11:17:34 PM

I believe those NZXT 200mm case fans are NOT actually 200mm, they are 192mm I think. I don't think that would work with the case you selected, in fact clicking on the fan the first review stated that it does not work with that case.

I personally wouldn't recommend getting a GTX580 if value is a consideration, since that card has probably the lowest price/performance, although the performance is excellent. I would probably recommend a GTX 560TI 448 as the most expensive card worth your while. Probably a 560TI, 6950, or 6870 would do the job just fine as well. A $150 6870 is ~70% the speed of a 580, will save you $350 and you can sit on your unemployed bum and play every game on high settings just fine.
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a b U Graphics card
January 6, 2012 11:41:38 PM

Just get the 7970 when you are going to build, it will be the best card for its price. You will not regret it.
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January 6, 2012 11:52:50 PM

So future-proofing won't be good for me to do in this case and I shouldn't get the 7970? I am fine with that because I will have a job sooner or later, and if it will save me $ but still give me good performance, I would be happy with that.
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