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March 10, 2012 9:52:37 PM

My parents' computer is starting to give them BSODs- the machine was purchased in 2001 so I think it is time for a new one. I told them before they go out and buy another Dell let me put something together for them. They only use it for internet and openoffice. I tend to go for enthusiests stuff so thought I would ask some advice on possible builds.

Below are some possible builds. I am only replacing the core guts, they will reuse all parts not listed. And with a kid in IT college the OS would be $30 at a student rate or they might try Linux.

AMD
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...
Intel
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

The only thing that is somewhat final is the PSU because at $24.99 with rebate it is hard to beat.

All responses and suggestions are welcome, even if you think they should go out and buy another dell.

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March 10, 2012 10:55:13 PM



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March 10, 2012 10:55:30 PM

Sure you made it public?
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March 10, 2012 11:24:03 PM

Sorry was not aware of the public private thing and it takes time for it to become public, so I will just repost.

And here I thought I was being all cool and professional.
March 10, 2012 11:37:15 PM

Not the first or last time it will happen on here ;) 
March 10, 2012 11:47:12 PM

There fixed it. Future advice if you need to make it public just choose someone else's public list and copy over everything but the last number.

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March 10, 2012 11:55:46 PM
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Pentium ($51) or an I3-2100 ($124)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
500 gb hard drive ($85)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
H61 mobo ($49)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Whatever psu you found $24
4 gbs ram ($22)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you need an optical drive (you might be able to use your current one) ($22)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This will cost you $230 with the Pentium or $300 with the I3-2100
March 11, 2012 12:06:22 AM

I can see it just fine, he changed to public. The intel has more cpu power, the amd has more gpu power. But since it's just for internet and office, you could even go lower to the g530 that adgjk posted (*it's celeron not pentium but that's just a name). I'd go for the intel. Make sure the hdd you're reusing is sata.
March 11, 2012 12:12:02 AM

Sorry, I started posting and got interrupted.
March 11, 2012 12:29:03 AM

I have an adapter for that, but it might be safer just to get a new hdd.

They never use up space so would an ssd be a better go instead of a huge drive?

They have not use up the 40gig drive that came with it.
March 11, 2012 3:10:20 AM

A modest SSD would be great for the speed, and can always get an external or another HDD later when the prices drop a bit! Intel 520 series and Samsung 830 series are tops, but Crucial I hear is also pretty sweet.
March 11, 2012 3:12:09 AM

Oh, and I'd get a new HDD if you go that route instead of an adapter. Adapters are 50/50 chance of working. Thread after thread I see people complaining about problems and come to find out they have an IDE to SATA adapter... My 2 cents.
March 11, 2012 2:04:03 PM

The cheapest ssd's you can buy are 32 gigabyte ones that cost $80 for that price you could get a 500 GB hard drive. SSD's are for performance not a "super cheap build." Also, I would use the Celeron G530 the only difference is the lack of hyper threading and 300 MHz, neither of which will make any noticeable difference for the use this will be getting. The cutback is worth the $20 that you are saving.
March 11, 2012 3:13:22 PM

A cheap way to get windows xp, a dvdrw, and a sata 80gig hdd..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HP Compaq Refurbished Desktop PC Celeron D 2.8GHz 1GB DDR2 80GB HDD Capacity Intel GMA 900 Windows XP Professional

$84.99

(unfortunately there is not enough info to verify this until you actually get the computer and get the computer's model number)
This cpu MIGHT work with a bios flash...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$46.99 Intel Celeron E3400 Wolfdale 2.6GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor BX80571E3400

If there is no bios upgrade to support the core2 wolfdale..

You could opt for a faster pentium 4 with ht.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$19.99 Intel Pentium 4 631 Cedar Mill 3.0GHz LGA 775 Single-Core Desktop Processor
2mb cache instead, a bit faster clock, and mostly ht.

Make sure it supports the Cedar Mill core first..

The celeron D is a very slow cpu, you will want to swap it for a real p4 at least.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$19.99 Intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 3.0GHz LGA 775 Single-Core Desktop Processor

They are the same cpu, but the cedar mill is 65nm so they run a bit cooler than the prescott's.

March 11, 2012 3:34:07 PM

It looks like the core2 wolfdale is a no-go..

Similar ibm system with the same chipset...

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/detai...

Processor

Intel® Celeron D Processor 331
Intel® Celeron D Processor 336
Intel® Celeron D Processor 341
Intel® Celeron D Processor 346
Intel® Celeron D Processor 351
Intel® Celeron D Processor 355
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 506
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 516
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 519
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 521 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 531 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 541 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 551 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 561 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 630 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 631 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 640 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 641 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 650 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 651 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 661 with HT Technology
Intel® Pentium® D Processor 820
Intel® Pentium® D Processor 830
Intel® Pentium® D Processor 840
Intel® Pentium® D Processor 920
Intel® Pentium® D Processor 930
Intel® Pentium® D Processor 940
Intel® Pentium® D Processor 950

Stay away from the hot running pentium D dual cores, it will only overheat.
March 11, 2012 4:31:08 PM

adgjlsfhk said:
The cheapest ssd's you can buy are 32 gigabyte ones that cost $80 for that price you could get a 500 GB hard drive. SSD's are for performance not a "super cheap build." Also, I would use the Celeron G530 the only difference is the lack of hyper threading and 300 MHz, neither of which will make any noticeable difference for the use this will be getting. The cutback is worth the $20 that you are saving.


An ssd would make it much more snappier. A cheap build would still be going for a similarly priced hdd so why not exchange it with a ssd of the same price. I put a ssd in my parents' old c2d and I would count that as cheap. It's a worthwhile improvement. 60gb ssds start at $80, 32gb are $60 and the cheapest are 16gb. None of the SB pentium and celeron have ht. And it's a $30 saving.
March 12, 2012 12:02:26 AM

What you said is true. However, a 16 gb ssd is the amount that windows says it requires to run. This means you would not have room for files. Also you can buy a 40 gig hard drive from ebay for $39
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=...
Also anything you get will seam "snappy" compared to a 2001 build.
March 12, 2012 4:36:14 PM

This is the new subtotal.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Any changes welcome.

I know the PSU is driving up the price even with the $20 MIR. So if there is another PSU for me to look at...

Also I am keeping the Dell case unless you feel that is a mistake- i.e will things fit in that case.
March 12, 2012 4:48:00 PM

adgjlsfhk said:
What you said is true. However, a 16 gb ssd is the amount that windows says it requires to run. This means you would not have room for files. Also you can buy a 40 gig hard drive from ebay for $39
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=...
Also anything you get will seam "snappy" compared to a 2001 build.

Is there any warranty on this? I know HDDs can randomly die and would like to have some security.

found this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Western-Digital-WD800BB-80GB-2M...

Any thoughts. Cuts the price bellow $200 as long as MIRs are respected
March 13, 2012 12:27:49 AM

This looks great for the use it will be getting. The 430 watt power supply is probably more than it needs, but all that means is you could upgrade to an I3 when the price drops a ton. This should work very well.
March 21, 2012 8:35:26 PM

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