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January 7, 2012 7:44:49 AM

Hello,
I am looking for a new gpu for my pc. its between the hd 6950 or the nevidea 560 ti overclocked edition. which one should i choose?
here are links:

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Ex...

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-TWIN-FROZR-II/dp/...

I currently have:

Intel i5 2500k sandy bridge
8 gb 2x4 1333 mhz ram
asus p8h67-v
corsair gs600 600w

Thanks

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a c 291 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 7:49:18 AM

I'd go with GTX 560 Ti because it's MSI twin frozr, means you will be able to overclock it very high, and it will blow HD6950 away ;) 
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a c 175 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 7:50:07 AM

nevidea :lol: 

Better get the 560 ti if you are not going to unlock that card to a 6970 and have single 1080p monitor, if you don't want to unlock and like radeons better, take the 1GB version.

If you like nvidia, definitely take 560 ti and more definitely if you want to overclock, it has twin frozer II (and non overclocked version to save money). If you are looking for radeons which has nice cooling take a look at either MSI twin frozer 6950 1GB or HIS Iceq X 6950 1GB.

The raw performance of 6950 is a bit better, but nvidia has something like physx, CUDA, better dual GPU (SLI is better than crossfire if I am not wrong).

The power consumption of 6950 is lower though. The temperatures depends on cooling, but MSI twin frozer are known to be cool. I think the sapphire card will run hotter.
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a b U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 7:50:53 AM

Both are great cards and are almost equals in performance. 6950 2GB you may have the luck to unlock the shaders and will perform almost like 6970. But this is a risk. If you are not interested in this buy the cheapest.
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January 7, 2012 7:55:40 AM

ok I saw a twintech gt560 ti overclocked edition, should i take it
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a c 291 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 7:58:57 AM

Twintech? A link please?
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a c 175 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 7:59:33 AM

No! Stay with MSI :) .
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a c 175 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 8:04:27 AM

Well the cooling seems strange. I think it is still better to buy online a MSI twin frozer.
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a c 291 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 8:08:44 AM

I'd go with MSI as well. It's best known for very good cooling, and you will be able to overclock tons with it for sure.
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January 7, 2012 8:13:51 AM

can anyonesuggest a graphics card for the same price but better than the 560
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January 7, 2012 8:15:57 AM

ok and also if i choos the msi how long will i be able to play games on high @ 1900x108p resplution
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January 7, 2012 8:45:23 AM

gtx 560ti from msi or asus or evga


get the physx for new game :-)
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a c 92 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 8:53:20 AM

physx is in like 3 games.

but it up to you.

here how I'd look at it, if you want to OC, the 560 ti offers a bit more

if you don't want to OC the 6950 offers a bit more.

OC'ed 560 ti is slightly faster than OC'ed 6950 but at stock the 6950 is slightly faster than the 560 ti.
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January 7, 2012 8:56:27 AM

i dont care about physx all i want is a gpu capable of playing games in ultra high on hd for about 3 years
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January 7, 2012 8:57:19 AM

and no i dont want oc
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a c 92 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 9:15:37 AM

then get the 6950 in your first post. or even a 1 gb 6950 if you can find it for cheaper.
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a c 80 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 9:15:51 AM

pcassassin said:
Hello,
I am looking for a new gpu for my pc. its between the hd 6950 or the nevidea 560 ti overclocked edition. which one should i choose?
here are links:

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Ex...

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-TWIN-FROZR-II/dp/...

I currently have:

Intel i5 2500k sandy bridge
8 gb 2x4 1333 mhz ram
asus p8h67-v
corsair gs600 600w

Thanks

do you want to overclock the cpu? then change to a z68 motherboard.
if you don't want to overclock, then you could save some money by getting the locked core i5 2400 or 2500..
if you want to keep the asus h67 mobo, make sure it has b3 revision (fixes cougar point chipset's degrading sata 3 gb/s ports bug).
you won't find a gfx card that will play every game on maximum settings for 3 years... you might be able to play on 1080p resolution for a while - with either 6950 or the 560ti.
6950 cards are usually long cards. can you fit one inside your case?
btw, the amazon link of the msi 560ti card has wrong product dimensions. the right one seems to be 9.37" x 4.37" x 1.46".
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January 7, 2012 9:32:08 AM

de5_Roy said:
do you want to overclock the cpu? then change to a z68 motherboard.
if you don't want to overclock, then you could save some money by getting the locked core i5 2400 or 2500..
if you want to keep the asus h67 mobo, make sure it has b3 revision (fixes cougar point chipset's degrading sata 3 gb/s ports bug).
you won't find a gfx card that will play every game on maximum settings for 3 years... you might be able to play on 1080p resolution for a while - with either 6950 or the 560ti.
6950 cards are usually long cards. can you fit one inside your case?
btw, the amazon link of the msi 560ti card has wrong product dimensions. the right one seems to be 9.37" x 4.37" x 1.46".


Ok I am not overclocking maybe in the future when my pc is old. yes the mb has b3 revision. i am buying a aerocool syclone 2 so i think it will fit. thanks for the dimensions but im gonna this take the 6950:
http://www.pricecheck.co.za/offers/21156874/MSI+AMD+Rad...

what is deffirence between i5 2500 and 2500k sandy bridge?

Can you give me ink on amazon for the z68?
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a c 80 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 9:43:51 AM

pcassassin said:
Ok I am not overclocking maybe in the future when my pc is old. yes the mb has b3 revision. i am buying a aerocool syclone 2 so i think it will fit. thanks for the dimensions but im gonna this take the 6950:
http://www.pricecheck.co.za/offers/21156874/MSI+AMD+Rad...

what is deffirence between i5 2500 and 2500k sandy bridge?

Can you give me ink on amazon for the z68?

the difference between core i5 2500 and 2500k are
the 2500k has unlocked multiplier, it can be overclocked by adjusting the cpu ratio. it has hd 3000 igp. the core i5 2500 non k has locked multiplier, you can only oc it a few hundred mhz over it's speed. it has hd 2000 igp - lower performing compared to hd3000.
couple of z68 motherboards:
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-LGA-1155-Motherboards-P8Z68-...
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-DDR3-Motherboards-...
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a c 175 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 10:23:06 AM

Get this card if you aren't overclocking, don't care about PhsyX.

http://www.biosonline.co.za/index.php?main_page=product...

If you find cheaper 1GB cards, go for those. The main difference between i5-2500k and i5-2500, is the i5-2500k has unlocked multiplier to make overclocking easier which i5-2500 doesn't have. So if you are overclocking the processor make sure you get i5-2500k.

Getting z68? Here is a probably good one: http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-LGA-1155-Motherboards-P8Z68-... :) .
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January 7, 2012 12:33:53 PM

refillable said:
Get this card if you aren't overclocking, don't care about PhsyX.

http://www.biosonline.co.za/index.php?main_page=product...

If you find cheaper 1GB cards, go for those. The main difference between i5-2500k and i5-2500, is the i5-2500k has unlocked multiplier to make overclocking easier which i5-2500 doesn't have. So if you are overclocking the processor make sure you get i5-2500k.

Getting z68? Here is a probably good one: http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-LGA-1155-Motherboards-P8Z68-... :) .


Ok thanks im probably gonna take that gpu
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a c 291 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 12:35:01 PM

Just one question: you say you're planning to OC the CPU, but why not the GPU? OCing a GPU is waaaaaaay easier than OCing a CPU, and you're getting huge gains with it too.
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a b U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 12:51:21 PM

pcassassin said:
Hello,
I am looking for a new gpu for my pc. its between the hd 6950 or the nevidea 560 ti overclocked edition. which one should i choose?
here are links:

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Ex...

http://www.amazon.com/MSI-PCI-Express-TWIN-FROZR-II/dp/...

I currently have:

Intel i5 2500k sandy bridge
8 gb 2x4 1333 mhz ram
asus p8h67-v
corsair gs600 600w

Thanks


Get the Radeon 6950 because its faster than the 560ti. These people who think you can overclock to 1ghz don't realize that if you overclock the 6950 it still beats the 560ti. Also the 6950 has 2gb of vram...something you will need in future games to turn on AA and AF. Bf3 already rapes 560ti...but 6950 can run it a lot better because of 2gb vram. You can see other posts in this forum to confirm that. Also if you go to newegg.com there are other 6950s 2gb for the same price as your linked card and those have the dual bios switch which lets you flash this card to a 6970..and then 560ti is way behind. I personally own a sapphire toxic 6950 2gb x 3 cards all flashed to 6970s.

Now to relieve the nvidia people..the 560ti is a great card..but it sits between 6870 and 6950..so its just in a different price point. The card you listed is $270 on amazon. Newegg sells the GTX 570 from galaxy for that same price and that will easily beat the 6950. Granted it has 1280mb of vram but if you want nvidia then go with that card for this same price.
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a c 175 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 12:55:00 PM

pcassassin said:
ok so ill be getting the k coz i plan to oc in the future, why exactly should i get a z68 for oc, whats defferint about it compared with the m5a97

EDIT: How good is this mb compared with the ones you reffered me:
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-P8Z68-V-LX-Intel-Motherboard...

It's OK that Z68 motherboard, the same chipset and form factor anyway. AND does not compare to M5A97... M5A97 is totally different, it's an AM3+ socket with 970 chipset from AMD.
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January 7, 2012 12:59:55 PM

2529950,25,787499 said:
Just one question: you say you're planning to OC the CPU, but why not the GPU? OCing a GPU is waaaaaaay easier than OCing a CPU, and you're getting huge gains with it too.[/qu

I'll thinks about doing that 2 but the ods are slim
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January 7, 2012 1:06:56 PM

refillable said:
It's OK that Z68 motherboard, the same chipset and form factor anyway. AND does not compare to M5A97... M5A97 is totally different, it's an AM3+ socket with 970 chipset from AMD.


oops sorry i was thinking bout something else i mean the Asus P8H67-V Motherboard (Rev.3)
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January 7, 2012 1:17:48 PM

dharmenparikh said:
Get the Radeon 6950 because its faster than the 560ti. These people who think you can overclock to 1ghz don't realize that if you overclock the 6950 it still beats the 560ti. Also the 6950 has 2gb of vram...something you will need in future games to turn on AA and AF. Bf3 already rapes 560ti...but 6950 can run it a lot better because of 2gb vram. You can see other posts in this forum to confirm that. Also if you go to newegg.com there are other 6950s 2gb for the same price as your linked card and those have the dual bios switch which lets you flash this card to a 6970..and then 560ti is way behind. I personally own a sapphire toxic 6950 2gb x 3 cards all flashed to 6970s.

Now to relieve the nvidia people..the 560ti is a great card..but it sits between 6870 and 6950..so its just in a different price point. The card you listed is $270 on amazon. Newegg sells the GTX 570 from galaxy for that same price and that will easily beat the 6950. Granted it has 1280mb of vram but if you want nvidia then go with that card for this same price.


Ill be getting the 6950 then, what do you mean dual bios switch? can you give me feedback on this particular 6950 it says its the power edition/ oc.
http://www.biosonline.co.za/index.php?main_page=product...
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a c 229 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 1:39:46 PM

This is a very popular price point for both AMD and nVidia and as a result there's a whole lotta choices. On both sides the factory OC'd cards are the easy choice as they usually come with over size coolers, heavy duty robust VRM's and are usually the same price or just say $10 more than the reference cards.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50

Based upon the above we can conclude the following:

1. Ina single card configuration, it's a relative toss up .... the 900 Mhz 560 Ti wins a narrow victory 495 to 484 fps in the Guru3D game test suite....the win is close enough to call it a toss up but, when ya factor in the fact that the 6950 costs more..... the $0.43 per for the 560 is a significant drop below the 6950's $0.50

2. When paired in SLI / CF however, it's a totally different story; the factory OC'd 560 toasts the factory OC'd 6950 by over 100 fps .... 862 fps to 759 fps..... On a cost per frame basis, this also makes the 560 Ti 21% cheaper than the 6950.

3. The twin 560 Ti's even beat two 6970's in CF ..... 862 fps to 825 fps.

As to brands to choose, the MSI did a great job beefing up their cooler but I wish they had followed through and done the same with the VRM......Asus and Gigabyte added robust 7-phase VRM modules to handle the extra voltage going through there when OC'd to over 1000MHz ..... MSI doesn't have a 7 phase VRM.

Finally, yes you can overclock the 6950 ..... you can't overclock though at anywhere near the level of a factory prepared 560 Ti ..... at least I haven't seen a published review showing any 6950 getting anywhere near a 30% OC over the reference speed.

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

As to the MoBo, no you don't need a z68 board. Your original H67 won't allow for any significant OC but a P67 certainly will and these can be had for about $50 cheaper than the Z68.

Do you need Z68 ? read this and decide ?

http://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/difference-between-h...

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Z68
Launched 5 months after the P67 and H67 chipset the Z68 chipset combines the advantages of the H67 and P67 Chipset so that overclocking, dual dedicated graphics cards and use of the integrated CPU graphics is available. Whilst on the surface it would seem that this would be the chipset to go for, how many users that have 2 dedicated graphics cards will actually want to use the onboard graphics when they already have 2 more powerful graphics cards in their system anyway?

The only real advantage is for users that wish to access the HD graphics features such as quick sync, but considering it’s only supported by very few transcoding programs and there are not many people out there that need or will want to transcode, it makes it almost pointless to choose Z68 over a P67 chipset.

Same applies to users that want to overclock the CPU but use the onboard graphics card; it’s a very limited market.

Finally, another feature of a Z68 chipset is known as SSD caching which is where it allows the use of a small (say 10 or 20 GB) Solid state hard drive to act as a cache for a larger ‘traditional’ hard disk. If you are already planning the use of a Solid State drive this feature is redundant.

If you can’t afford a decent size SSD (40GB+) then there are more cost effective ways around using a small SSD and SSD cashing like spending less on a motherboard, (H67 chipset or even a P67 chipset) and putting the saved money into a decent size SSD.


The P67 are combo'd up for some nice discounts:

$160 for the Asus P8P67 Pro afer MIR minus $15 discount on the combo gives you an SLI / CF board for $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$200 for the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 if ya decide that something Z68 offers is worth $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 7, 2012 1:52:35 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
This is a very popular price point for both AMD and nVidia and as a result there's a whole lotta choices. On both sides the factory OC'd cards are the easy choice as they usually come with over size coolers, heavy duty robust VRM's and are usually the same price or just say $10 more than the reference cards.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50

Based upon the above we can conclude the following:

1. Ina single card configuration, it's a relative toss up .... the 900 Mhz 560 Ti wins a narrow victory 495 to 484 fps in the Guru3D game test suite....the win is close enough to call it a toss up but, when ya factor in the fact that the 6950 costs more..... the $0.43 per for the 560 is a significant drop below the 6950's $0.50

2. When paired in SLI / CF however, it's a totally different story; the factory OC'd 560 toasts the factory OC'd 6950 by over 100 fps .... 862 fps to 759 fps..... On a cost per frame basis, this also makes the 560 Ti 21% cheaper than the 6950.

3. The twin 560 Ti's even beat two 6970's in CF ..... 862 fps to 825 fps.

As to brands to choose, the MSI did a great job beefing up their cooler but I wish they had followed through and done the same with the VRM......Asus and Gigabyte added robust 7-phase VRM modules to handle the extra voltage going through there when OC'd to over 1000MHz ..... MSI doesn't have a 7 phase VRM.

Finally, yes you can overclock the 6950 ..... you can't overclock though at anywhere near the level of a factory prepared 560 Ti ..... at least I haven't seen a published review showing any 6950 getting anywhere near a 30% OC over the reference speed.

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

As to the MoBo, no you don't need a z68 board. Your original H67 won't allow for any significant OC but a P67 certainly will and these can be had for about $50 cheaper than the Z68.

Do you need Z68 ? read this and decide ?

http://www.ukgamingcomputers.co.uk/difference-between-h...

Quote:
Z68
Launched 5 months after the P67 and H67 chipset the Z68 chipset combines the advantages of the H67 and P67 Chipset so that overclocking, dual dedicated graphics cards and use of the integrated CPU graphics is available. Whilst on the surface it would seem that this would be the chipset to go for, how many users that have 2 dedicated graphics cards will actually want to use the onboard graphics when they already have 2 more powerful graphics cards in their system anyway?

The only real advantage is for users that wish to access the HD graphics features such as quick sync, but considering it’s only supported by very few transcoding programs and there are not many people out there that need or will want to transcode, it makes it almost pointless to choose Z68 over a P67 chipset.

Same applies to users that want to overclock the CPU but use the onboard graphics card; it’s a very limited market.

Finally, another feature of a Z68 chipset is known as SSD caching which is where it allows the use of a small (say 10 or 20 GB) Solid state hard drive to act as a cache for a larger ‘traditional’ hard disk. If you are already planning the use of a Solid State drive this feature is redundant.

If you can’t afford a decent size SSD (40GB+) then there are more cost effective ways around using a small SSD and SSD cashing like spending less on a motherboard, (H67 chipset or even a P67 chipset) and putting the saved money into a decent size SSD.


The P67 are combo'd up for some nice discounts:

$160 for the Asus P8P67 Pro afer MIR minus $15 discount on the combo gives you an SLI / CF board for $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$200 for the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 if ya decide that something Z68 offers is worth $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


so what do you mean? take the 560? I wont be using SLI/CF.
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a c 291 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 2:16:42 PM

pcassassin said:
so what do you mean? take the 560? I wont be using SLI/CF.


He means that 560 Ti overclocks like a beat and HD 6950 does not.
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a c 175 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 4:04:09 PM

Sorry man, that's GTX 560 non TI. Here is the 560 ti http://www.pricecheck.co.za/offers/22777006/MSI+NVIDIA+...

Since the price is the same, you decide yourself to go with radeons or geforce. If you would unlock the shaders, Get the 6950 I linked you before, because you get 2GB.

And yes, JackNaylorPE is right, not worth it to get Z68 if you can get P67 for a cheaper price ^_^ (Most of the time yes!), otherwise if you find prices the same, go for the Z68 in case your graphics card broke. Sorry about this advice! Thanks Mr. JackNaylorPE.

If you want to have 1000Mhz overclock with minimum voltage switch, go with 560 ti, they overclock better than 6950, since you don't plan SLI/Crossfire, you won't benefit from the less-micro-shuttering issues with SLI.
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January 8, 2012 3:53:19 AM

refillable said:
Sorry man, that's GTX 560 non TI. Here is the 560 ti http://www.pricecheck.co.za/offers/22777006/MSI+NVIDIA+...

Since the price is the same, you decide yourself to go with radeons or geforce. If you would unlock the shaders, Get the 6950 I linked you before, because you get 2GB.

And yes, JackNaylorPE is right, not worth it to get Z68 if you can get P67 for a cheaper price ^_^ (Most of the time yes!), otherwise if you find prices the same, go for the Z68 in case your graphics card broke. Sorry about this advice! Thanks Mr. JackNaylorPE.

If you want to have 1000Mhz overclock with minimum voltage switch, go with 560 ti, they overclock better than 6950, since you don't plan SLI/Crossfire, you won't benefit from the less-micro-shuttering issues with SLI.


Hi what is the difference between unlocking the shaders and overclocking, if i unlock the shader will the card be a bit warmer in temp. and if i overclock it will it reduce the cards lifespan

EDIT: I also noticed that the 6950 you reffered me is factory overclocked, can i overclock a factory overclock and if the the factory overclocks it does it reduce the cards lifespan
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January 8, 2012 4:44:05 AM

one more thing should i consider waiting for a graphics card with pci 3.0?
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a b U Graphics card
January 8, 2012 5:07:08 AM

You can overclock any card....factory overclocked or not. The factory overclock is not worth the extra money....pcie gen3 is pointless...no card right now needs that bandwidth..not even the 7970 as per anandtech.com

overclocking does reduce lifespan but it depends on how much you overclock. There are a lot of us who run 24/7 overclocks that won't fry your card in 1-2yrs...Basically, unless you go mad overclocking with insane voltage to maximize performance there's no issue with overclocking...most people use their cards for 3-4 yrs max.
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January 8, 2012 5:41:42 AM

thanks and how about cpus how long do they last if lets say i over clock my i5 2500k 3.3 to 3.8
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January 8, 2012 6:51:55 AM

one more random question, which is better 1333mhz ram or 1600 mhz ram or 1800mhz ram or 2000mhz ram?
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January 8, 2012 7:04:23 AM

If youd only be OCing to 3.8, IMO, just use turbo boost on the i5.
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a c 80 U Graphics card
January 8, 2012 9:15:53 AM

pcassassin said:
thanks and how about cpus how long do they last if lets say i over clock my i5 2500k 3.3 to 3.8

if maintained properly, cpus can last for a looong time. if you don't oc it too high, it can last for 3-4 years at least. i had one cpu that lasted for 6 years (no oc, didn't want to oc anyway :) ) and it was still running when i parted with it. hopefully people who oc'ed their cpu can help you more.
pcassassin said:
one more random question, which is better 1333mhz ram or 1600 mhz ram or 1800mhz 1866 ram or 2000 2133mhz ram?

core i5 uses ddr3 1333 maximum by default. using intel extreme memory profile (xmp), one can use higher speed ram. you'll need a motherboard with chipset that allows ram over clocking e.g. p67 or z68. if you use ddr3 1600 (or higher) without setting up properly, your system will automatically choose ddr3 1333 speed/specs.
in terms of price-performance, ddr3 1600 ram is better than 1333. imo 1866 or higher isn't worth it, but it will still improve memory performance.


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January 8, 2012 9:52:19 AM

ok then ill take the 1600
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a c 175 U Graphics card
January 8, 2012 10:59:24 AM

Just a quick roundup, get this.

i5-2500k (Don't change)
ASUS P67
DDR3 1600
MSI Twin frozer 6950. (Just a note, That card I linked you is cheapest from the shop if you want to unlock (the 2GB version) So even though it's factory OC, it's still worth it)

Have you decide about the PSU?
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January 8, 2012 12:30:47 PM

refillable said:
Just a quick roundup, get this.

i5-2500k (Don't change)
ASUS P67
DDR3 1600
MSI Twin frozer 6950. (Just a note, That card I linked you is cheapest from the shop if you want to unlock (the 2GB version) So even though it's factory OC, it's still worth it)

Have you decide about the PSU?


corsair gs600, i am gonna buy the Asus P8Z68-V Generation 3 coz my friend can get it half the price for me
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January 8, 2012 12:35:05 PM

my friend can also get the Asus P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard (Rev.3) for half the price but i dont know what to get coz the p8z68-v gen has pci 3.0 which makes it last longer but the Asus P8P67 Deluxe Motherboard (Rev.3) has a cool usb 3.0 box thingie
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January 8, 2012 12:37:33 PM

he can also get the Asus P8Z68 Deluxe Generation 3 Motherboard (which has both the pci 3 and boxie thing) for half the price. but even then is way more than the other 2
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January 8, 2012 12:38:46 PM

Alright, just a good luck from me :) .
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January 8, 2012 12:46:10 PM

which of those 3 mb should i choose
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