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Looking for upgrade from Radeon HD 5770

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January 7, 2012 5:58:36 PM

For the past 2 years I have been using a Radeon HD 5770 video card to play only mmo's (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...). I am looking to upgrade but want it to be a noticeable improvement. My current system is this:

AMD Phenom II X2 Black Edition cpu (all 4 cores unlocked though)
4 GB Ram
Antec 430W power supply
ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G motherboard

I have been looking at the Radeon 6850 and it looks appealing but wanted to ask others' opinions on here who are knowledgeable on the subject. My budget is $150 max. Thank you.

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January 7, 2012 6:10:28 PM

You may want to wait for a 7770 or 7850 for 2 reasons. One you may end up wanting the 11.1 DX or the price of the 6870 could slide down enough to make it an option. If tomshardware review of the 7970 was correct the 7800's will launch next month. I suggest this as the 5770 to 6850 isn't enough to warrant the upgrade in IMHO.
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January 7, 2012 6:12:46 PM

Thanks for the reply. Looks like I might need another power supply to work with that video card as it says 500W needed. I don't have any experience with HIS, are they a good brand? Or one to stay away from?
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January 7, 2012 6:17:04 PM

Your PSU should cover that as long as you dont have a lot of drives and addon cards. The power supply is an estimate base on an average quality PSU with a lot of addons. The power requirement may be a third reason to wait for the 7000 series as at the lower nm they will require less power to produce a lot more fps.
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January 7, 2012 6:30:32 PM

So you are suggesting I wait another month and then I should start to see price of the 6870's start to drop?
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January 8, 2012 12:00:28 AM

snake8 said:
So you are suggesting I wait another month and then I should start to see price of the 6870's start to drop?

Yup or get a better 7000 series its up to you. Check out the 7970 set to launch Monday the 9th. It has the same power draw as the 6970 but nearly matches the GTX 590 and beats the GTX 580.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-benc...
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January 9, 2012 12:26:09 AM

Do you think I will see a noticeable improvement moving from the Radeon HD 5770 to the Radeon HD 6870? Also forgot to mention, I game at 1920 x 1080, not sure if that matters or not. Thanks.
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January 9, 2012 2:47:43 PM

You should as it often doubles the FPS. Check out this link for a comparison. You would be hard pressed to match the 6870 with 2X 5770 in crossfire. If you switch this compare to the 6850 you will note 2 games no longer have the 30FPS min for playable frame rate.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/296?vs=290

Given you can pick one up for $159 you should get the higher end card. This price should see a $10 or more lower price next month.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 9, 2012 3:22:52 PM

I have never used an HIS brand before, only XFX. Do you have any experience with them?
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January 9, 2012 5:52:48 PM

snake8 said:
I have never used an HIS brand before, only XFX. Do you have any experience with them?

They are OK but if you want top quality I suggest either Sapphire or XFX. For $5 more you can get a Sapphire 6870 and a free game.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 13, 2012 2:43:33 PM

It looks like the 6870's are starting to drop a little so I am getting closer to picking up either the Sapphire or the XFX one. I am a little worried about my PSU though. The one I am currently using is this one: Item # N82E16817371023 on newegg.com. (the copy and paste didnt work since it's an older product.)

I want to make sure it will work with a new 6870, meaning enough power, connectors, etc. What do you think?
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January 13, 2012 4:04:14 PM

Your power supply new could produces 360W on the 12v1 and 12v2 rails. The 6870 is rated at 151w. A system with one SSD, DVD, 6GB DDR3, an i7 965, and the 6870 takes 247W at max load. Given your unlocked CPU may be drawing more power than a normal quad and a HD you might be topping out at 280W. I wouldn't suggest overclock either part much at all on this PSU but you should have no problem at stock with an unlocked CPU.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/10/22/at...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/10/22/at...
Look at the output chart for total 12v1 and 12v2 output. Given your PSU has some years you may be around 10% less due to aging. Aging is ware on the PSU reducing its ability to cool enough at max power. Your looking at 280W draw and about 326W your PSU can reliable produce.
http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NzI3

On the connectors Your PSU comes with one PCI-E power connector so you will have to use one of the molex to PCI-E power adapters. The Video card comes with 2 x molex to PCI-E adapters so you should be fine.
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January 13, 2012 5:33:17 PM

When I unlocked my CPU, I just used the motherboard to do so, didn't overclock it at all. So what you are saying that with my current setup, my PSU should be ok? And that the Sapphire card comes with an adapter to turn my 1 PCI-E power connector into 2?
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January 13, 2012 5:46:58 PM

yeah your psu should be fine but id wait for the 7xxx series to see what kind of improvement there will be in regards to performance/watt, imo it should be greatly improved.... that is truly the wise move even though it sucks waiting imo
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January 13, 2012 5:53:01 PM

So you think there could be a 7xxx series that is comparable to the 6870 in performance? And might also have a better performance/watt ratio?
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January 13, 2012 8:37:37 PM

yes I would bet on it! unfortunatley the best idea is to wait imo, it will pay off and the wait shouldnt be too long..

Im guessing that the 7850 will roughly have the performance of a 6950 and the power consumption of a 6850/70... so if your willing to wait you will get more for your money at this point, thats my 2 cents though, if you cant wait get the 6870
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January 13, 2012 9:58:46 PM

I saw that the 7870 will be priced around $300. I wondert what will be in the $150 range?
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January 13, 2012 11:30:49 PM

how about the 7850? the 7770 will be priced around the 150 range...
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January 14, 2012 12:38:12 AM

I read an article where there are reports that are rebranding old 6000 and 5000 series cards under the new 7000 series. It was for OEM cards only, not sure if it will happen in the retail market too.
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January 14, 2012 3:55:43 AM

snake8 said:
When I unlocked my CPU, I just used the motherboard to do so, didn't overclock it at all. So what you are saying that with my current setup, my PSU should be ok? And that the Sapphire card comes with an adapter to turn my 1 PCI-E power connector into 2?

Yes your PSU should be fine as long as there is no overclocking. The adapter attaches to a molex connecter which are those used on old PATA based hard drives. This is a molex connector.

This is the PCI-E to Molex adapter.


Your PSU has a total of 4 molex connectors so make sure you have at least 1 your not using.
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January 14, 2012 4:09:39 AM

snake8 said:
I read an article where there are reports that are rebranding old 6000 and 5000 series cards under the new 7000 series. It was for OEM cards only, not sure if it will happen in the retail market too.

I can tell you for sure the 7700's, 7800's, and 7900's are new designed 28nm based on the graphics core next architecture. Its possible the lower cards will be the old rebranded VLIW4/5 architectures. This information is in the paragraph just above the roadmap image in this link.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7970-benc...
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