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Battlefield 3 - 570 , 6970 or 6870?? BEST RELATION PRICE/PERFORMANCE?

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January 7, 2012 8:11:55 PM

i want to get a new graphic card, all i want to do is play BF3, ofc ill play more games but most powerfull game atm is BF3, i got an i5 760 4gb ram 1600 and 700W PSU

please i've read so many threads @ many websites ( like 10+ threads about nearly same questions here @ TM... i want the final solution!!

tell me WHICH is FASTER, and BETTER for the € it costs, i have 300€ to spend, thank you very much for your sooner replies :D 
January 7, 2012 8:13:32 PM

have to say that 6870 would be x2 graphic cards @ Xfire
January 7, 2012 8:32:13 PM

I would say the Crossfiring of the 6870 would be faster.
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January 7, 2012 8:55:13 PM

thanks, and my 700W PSU would be able to run them?
a c 225 U Graphics card
January 7, 2012 9:18:53 PM

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 170.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.39 - $ 0.49
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 215.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.43 - $ 0.50
$ 340.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.65 - $ 0.78
$ 500.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.81 - $ 1.05

Well 300 euro is about $385 US .... if you were here, you could get two 900 Mhz 560 Ti's which would cost ya $430 .... about 11% over budget. Next step down would be two 6870's but ya lose 161 fps or 19% performance (862 fps down to 701)


January 7, 2012 10:09:52 PM

woww, thats so much useful data.... anyways my 300 euro will never be 385 usd, because here in europe they say...50$US?? = 50 euro!!, thats the ratio we have to suffer.... ok and about all your info, you believe that 2 560 ti will run BF3 @ ultra at like 60 fps? i forgot to say my mobo is an asus p7p55d and my monitor display is 1920 x 1080, so your info was pretty good , what would you if it were you who will be buying the graphic card?? maybe my motherboard doesnt support sli... it does crossfire for sure, i checked it before.

i need you guys to tell me which card to buy!!!
January 7, 2012 10:13:08 PM

checking that table and AMD website, it seems that best thing i can do ( not thinking about future, because of xfire) is buying a pair of HD 6870's.... or maybe a single 560 ti / 570( i think 570 will be a little bit more than 300 euro) and wait for like 6 months/1 year and complete the sli if i chose to buy the 560 ti / 570 ?
January 8, 2012 1:08:19 PM

EVGA Classified 560 TI 448 core benchmarks exactly the same as a 570 in BF3 but its 50 bucks less on average.
January 8, 2012 2:14:49 PM

thanks xxsjxx1, as i see i cant crossfire due to my motherboard ( if i crossfire i will lose alot of performance ) ill try to compare these 3 @ BF3 and finally get the best performance/price:

EVGA Classified 560 TI 44
HD 6970
GTX 570, ill be back when i find out which performs better!
a b U Graphics card
January 8, 2012 2:29:03 PM

xxsjxx1 said:
EVGA Classified 560 TI 448 core benchmarks exactly the same as a 570 in BF3 but its 50 bucks less on average.



there's no way that a 560ti 448 will perform 'exactly' same as a gtx 570.simply because gtx 570 has 480 cores(if i am not wrong) and gtx 560ti has 448.
January 8, 2012 2:40:29 PM

i know nothing about cores, link for that evga 560 ti benchmarks pls!??
a b U Graphics card
January 9, 2012 11:14:03 AM

google it lol!
January 9, 2012 4:48:07 PM

finally decided to go for GTX 570, can any1 recommend me any of those models?

thanks!

ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-570-AMP-Edition-1280-MB-DDR5

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Graphics-Card/NVIDI...

EVGA-GeForce-GTX-570-HD-Superclocked-1280MB-DDR5-HDMI

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Graphics-Card/NVIDI...

Gainward-GeForce-GTX-570-Phantom-1280MB-DDR5-HDMI-DVI-DP

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Graphics-Card/NVIDI...

Palit-GeForce-GTX-570-Sonic-1280MB-DDR5-HDMI-DVI-PCIe

http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/Graphics-Card/NVIDI...

MSI GeForce GTX 570 Twin Frozr III PE/OC 1280MB GDDR5
cant find 300 euro link to it :D 
a b U Graphics card
January 10, 2012 8:13:04 AM

MSI twinfrozer III is best IMO followed by Phantom.EVGA is good too but the cooler isn't great :( 
go with MSi
a c 109 U Graphics card
January 10, 2012 8:42:08 AM

560ti sli for performance/value
570 sli value/performance
January 10, 2012 12:32:00 PM

thank you, finally decided to buy the MSI twinfrozer III, thanks MJ and amuffin, my mainboard just supports crossfire so even in case i could sli 560/570 i would only have x16 x4 performance, how to close this!?? =)!!!!
a b U Graphics card
January 10, 2012 12:58:09 PM

i think that your mobo does not supports SLi pal.you can not SLi.
January 10, 2012 4:14:26 PM

yeah incase of sli i would need to replace my mobo :( , anyways ill go with just 1

MSI GeForce GTX 570 Twin Frozr III PE/OC 1280MB GDDR5 , ty.
a c 109 U Graphics card
January 10, 2012 6:49:52 PM

Does your power supply have the right amount of amerpage to power it?
a b U Graphics card
January 10, 2012 7:16:46 PM

BF3 at 1080P can be played at 55-60fps on a 6970 if you turn MSAA off. This is based on my personal experience. I have a i5 2500K clocked to 4.5ghz....and the 6970 at stock with 8gb of DDR 3 1600mhz memory.

The GTX 570 is good but it runs into vram issues because bf3 consumes more than 1300mb at 1080P with everything maxed out. However its within 5 FPS of 6970 if I am not mistaken. If you turn MSAA off I think it can easily beat the 6970. It definitely overclocks a lot better so you might be able to hit 60fps. Keep in mind MSAA does almost nothing in bf3. HARDOCP.com did analysis on bf3 AA modes in great detail.

Now price to performance is always with dual cards like 6870 x 2 but some rigs suffer from microstutter..and the fps aren't as stable as a single card. They fluctuate a lot more in 6870 CFX.

So basically 6970 or GTX 570. My thinking was the 1280mb on 570 is too low for future high end games...for eg Crysis 2 right now consumes close to 1800mb of vram at 1080P if you crank up everything. So 6970 is more future proof relative to the 570.

Oh..and you better be willing to overclock that CPU of yours or you won't hit 50+fps with anything below GTX 580.
January 10, 2012 7:54:52 PM

assaxito said:
woww, thats so much useful data.... anyways my 300 euro will never be 385 usd, because here in europe they say...50$US?? = 50 euro!!, thats the ratio we have to suffer.... ok and about all your info, you believe that 2 560 ti will run BF3 @ ultra at like 60 fps? i forgot to say my mobo is an asus p7p55d and my monitor display is 1920 x 1080, so your info was pretty good , what would you if it were you who will be buying the graphic card?? maybe my motherboard doesnt support sli... it does crossfire for sure, i checked it before.

i need you guys to tell me which card to buy!!!


well my personal experience with gtx 570 is unbelievable this card eats anythin and everythin plus it nvidia has physx dont forget that games make special effecets for that. battlefield with single gtx 570 is like 75 - 55 fps and so smooth i was surprised how smooth it was and ultra high settings thats why im going to sli it now cuz its worth it i also used hd 5770 right before the card and it was a super nice card for its price but then it wasnt even good enough to play cod black ops smoothly and i was disappointed u know so i would pick nvidia over amd anyday but imnot sayin amd is bad dont get that expression
January 10, 2012 7:55:50 PM

and u can oc the 570 like theres no tomorrow its a great card
a c 88 U Graphics card
January 10, 2012 8:32:32 PM

The 570 is a great card , good choice.
January 10, 2012 8:35:33 PM

i know right i was thinkin about 580 but that doesnt worth another 120 or 150 dollars for extra 15 fps or not even sometimes i can jus oc my 570 and get the results done :) 
January 11, 2012 2:55:21 AM

When I had one 6970, I was getting about 40fps in 1080p totally maxed out. This was on average. It usually fluctuated between 35fps and 50fps. It was so steady that even when it dropped as low as 30fps (the lowest it would ever get), it hardly seemed like lag.

The crossfire scaling is so good, that with two 6970's, I get about 65fps on average, never dropping below 60fps, and often going as high as 100fps.

Here is a video of my BF3 benchmark with a single 6970...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg7i-UY13SI&feature=chan...

Here is a BF3 benchmark with two 6970's...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xa5y6KUZO0&feature=chan...

The first is without a frame counter - but I got about 40fps on average, as I said.

The second is with a frame counter, and you can see how I do.

With all that said, here are my recommendations...

If you are planning to eventually upgrade to a dual-card setup in the future, then my recommendation is as follows...

6970>570>6870

If all you desire or plan on using for the foreseeable future is a single GPU, and have no intention whatsoever to add an extra GPU, my recommendation is as follows...

570>6970>6870

If you have little to no experience with PC gaming, or are limited in any way when it comes to knowledge of GPU's, then my recommendation is as follows...

Nvidia>AMD (in any case, whatsoever)

Good luck.
January 11, 2012 3:10:15 AM

dharmenparikh said:
BF3 at 1080P can be played at 55-60fps on a 6970 if you turn MSAA off. This is based on my personal experience. I have a i5 2500K clocked to 4.5ghz....and the 6970 at stock with 8gb of DDR 3 1600mhz memory.

The GTX 570 is good but it runs into vram issues because bf3 consumes more than 1300mb at 1080P with everything maxed out. However its within 5 FPS of 6970 if I am not mistaken. If you turn MSAA off I think it can easily beat the 6970. It definitely overclocks a lot better so you might be able to hit 60fps. Keep in mind MSAA does almost nothing in bf3. HARDOCP.com did analysis on bf3 AA modes in great detail.

Now price to performance is always with dual cards like 6870 x 2 but some rigs suffer from microstutter..and the fps aren't as stable as a single card. They fluctuate a lot more in 6870 CFX.

So basically 6970 or GTX 570. My thinking was the 1280mb on 570 is too low for future high end games...for eg Crysis 2 right now consumes close to 1800mb of vram at 1080P if you crank up everything. So 6970 is more future proof relative to the 570.

Oh..and you better be willing to overclock that CPU of yours or you won't hit 50+fps with anything below GTX 580.


+1 to pretty much everything you said.

I also agree that mid-range GPU's like the 6870 will always perform like crap when paired up in dual-card configurations. The only way to avoid micro-stuttering (from what I have heard) is to make sure your frame rate is always at or above your refresh rate - which is something users with high end GPU's in crossfire (such as the 6950 and above) never have to worry about.

I have two 6970's and can get consistently over 100fps when disabling AA - and it really isn't needed in 1080p and above, anyway.

When I had one 6970, I got about 45fps on average totally maxed in 1080p, and consistently 60fps and above with AA off.

With that said, if all he plans on using is a single GPU for the foreseeable future, and is only thinking about BF3 and current games, I say the 570>6970 in 1080p and below.
January 11, 2012 4:06:28 AM

PCgamer81 said:
+1 to pretty much everything you said.

I also agree that mid-range GPU's like the 6870 will always perform like crap when paired up in dual-card configurations. The only way to avoid micro-stuttering (from what I have heard) is to make sure your frame rate is always at or above your refresh rate - which is something users with high end GPU's in crossfire (such as the 6950 and above) never have to worry about.

I have two 6970's and can get consistently over 100fps when disabling AA - and it really isn't needed in 1080p and above, anyway.

When I had one 6970, I got about 45fps on average totally maxed in 1080p, and consistently 60fps and above with AA off.

With that said, if all he plans on using is a single GPU for the foreseeable future, and is only thinking about BF3 and current games, I say the 570>6970 in 1080p and below.


i believe u but seems like ur little over exaggerating about the vram on 1080p can u show me some charts or videos about it cuz i thought 1.28 ram would be good enough for all of the games out there
January 11, 2012 5:43:05 AM

thegameon said:
i believe u but seems like ur little over exaggerating about the vram on 1080p can u show me some charts or videos about it cuz i thought 1.28 ram would be good enough for all of the games out there


Do this:

Look up benchmarks comparing a SINGLE 570 vs a SINGLE 6970. It is, for the most part, win some/lose some. But, the 570 wins more.

And when you factor in that the 570 has better drivers and easier accessibility, I would be hard pressed to recommend the 6970. ;) 

a c 88 U Graphics card
January 11, 2012 6:45:06 AM

The 570 overclocks very well also and if you are really concerned about vram , EVGA make a 2.5 GB version of the 570.
a c 109 U Graphics card
January 11, 2012 7:48:49 AM

If you don't need 2.5gb of vram get the twinfrozr iii as an alternative.
January 11, 2012 9:03:13 AM

monsta said:
The 570 overclocks very well also and if you are really concerned about vram , EVGA make a 2.5 GB version of the 570.


+1

The 570 (1280MB or 2.5GB) pretty much owns a single 6970, particularly in 1080p.

And the 560Ti owns the 6950 (but from the looks of your configuration, I'm preaching to the choir). ;) 
a b U Graphics card
January 11, 2012 11:54:28 AM

PCgamer81 said:
+1

The 570 (1280MB or 2.5GB) pretty much owns a single 6970, particularly in 1080p.

And the 560Ti owns the 6950 (but from the looks of your configuration, I'm preaching to the choir). ;) 



Maybe the 2.5GB model owns the 6970 but saying this in regards to the reference model is not really fair. Most benchmarks put the 570 and 6970 at pretty much the same level. I would say that between the 570 and 6970 there really isn't any difference. It comes down to your personal preference. I had always used nvidia gpu's up until what I am running now and i really have no preference either way.

In regards to the the 560 ti owning the 6950, have a look at this

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-...

According to this review, the 6970 outperforms the gtx 570 and the 6950 outperforms the gtx 560 ti 448 in battlefield 3 at 1920x1080
January 11, 2012 1:14:29 PM

alrobichaud said:
Maybe the 2.5GB model owns the 6970 but saying this in regards to the reference model is not really fair. Most benchmarks put the 570 and 6970 at pretty much the same level. I would say that between the 570 and 6970 there really isn't any difference. It comes down to your personal preference. I had always used nvidia gpu's up until what I am running now and i really have no preference either way.

In regards to the the 560 ti owning the 6950, have a look at this

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-...

According to this review, the 6970 outperforms the gtx 570 and the 6950 outperforms the gtx 560 ti 448 in battlefield 3 at 1920x1080


The superclocked versions of the 560Ti are among the best bang for your buck GPU's on the market.

Against the 6970, the 570 wins most of the benchmarks that I have seen. But in any case, this is just single card vs single card. We both know which one wins in dual-card configurations, because we both got practically the same thing. And we smoke them, your quad setup in particular being about the best possible right now in terms of raw power. Even my dual setup gives the 580SLi a run for it's money (Your setup would crush a 580quad-SLi IMO). That's AMD scaling for you.

No, the reason I suggest the 570 over the 6970 isn't just about benchmarks.

My thoughts have always been, if a person is new enough to PC gaming to ask a question like this, then they should probably go with Nvidia. Not having to go searching for drivers/rolling back drivers, demanding patches, tinkering with INI files, and other inconveniences every time a new game is released is why I always direct the noobs to Nvidia.
a b U Graphics card
January 11, 2012 1:32:30 PM

PCgamer81 said:
The superclocked versions of the 560Ti are among the best bang for your buck GPU's on the market.

Against the 6970, the 570 wins most of the benchmarks that I have seen. But in any case, this is just single card vs single card. We both know which one wins in dual-card configurations, because we both got practically the same thing. And we smoke them, your setup in particular being about the best possible right now in terms of raw power. Even my setup gives the 580SLi a run for it's money. That's AMD scaling for you.

No, the reason I suggest the 570 over the 6970 isn't just about benchmarks.

My thoughts have always been, if a person is new enough to PC gaming to ask a question like this, then they should probably go with Nvidia. Not having to go searching for drivers/rolling back drivers, demanding patches, tinkering with INI files, and other inconveniences every time a new game is released is why I always direct the noobs to Nvidia.



Good point. I was looking strictly at benchmarks and not taking into account value for the dollar or ease of use.
January 11, 2012 1:46:19 PM

alrobichaud said:
Good point. I was looking strictly at benchmarks and not taking into account value for the dollar or ease of use.


Your rig with your quad-fired 6970's is about the best thing I have seen. I would probably catch fire if I sat in your chair. :o 
a b U Graphics card
January 11, 2012 1:50:47 PM

I agree with you in regards to scaling. The commom misconception is that AMD scaling is not great but I strongly disagree. At high resolutions is where it really shines. Heaven 2.5 Benchmark at 5760 x 1080 gives respective scores/framerates for the 6990, 6990+6970, 6990+6970+6970 of 1018/40.4, 1581/62.8, 2083/82.7. If sli/crossfire is a consideration, I think AMD really kicks as at high res. Not sure about the gtx 570 in sli if anyone has any data to add in regards to this I am sure it will help the OP make a decision. Also, just about any motherboard that supports crossfire with 4 pci-e slots will support quadfire but you need a board with an nvidia chipset in or to use 4 way sli.
a b U Graphics card
January 11, 2012 2:00:11 PM

PCgamer81 said:
Your rig with your quad-fired 6970's is about the best thing I have seen. I would probably catch fire if I sat in your chair. :o 



Thanks :sol: 

It is really only a gaming rig and does it ever do it well! BTW, the reason for the quadfire setup is to use eyefinity at 5760x1080. It is definately overkill for a single 1920x1080 monitor.
January 11, 2012 3:52:01 PM

alrobichaud said:
Thanks :sol: 

It is really only a gaming rig and does it ever do it well! BTW, the reason for the quadfire setup is to use eyefinity at 5760x1080. It is definately overkill for a single 1920x1080 monitor.


Hell, if I had your setup, I would grab three 2560 x 1600 (as long as I'm dreaming for a 6990 to add to these two 6970's of mine, I might as well dream for the $ to get those monitors) and go eyefinity with those. Hell, I don't even know how well any hardware setup would handle 'em with BF3 maxed out, but I'd be damned if I wouldn't try! :bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce:  :bounce: 
January 11, 2012 4:38:17 PM

PCgamer81 said:
The superclocked versions of the 560Ti are among the best bang for your buck GPU's on the market.

Against the 6970, the 570 wins most of the benchmarks that I have seen. But in any case, this is just single card vs single card. We both know which one wins in dual-card configurations, because we both got practically the same thing. And we smoke them, your quad setup in particular being about the best possible right now in terms of raw power. Even my dual setup gives the 580SLi a run for it's money (Your setup would crush a 580quad-SLi IMO). That's AMD scaling for you.

No, the reason I suggest the 570 over the 6970 isn't just about benchmarks.

My thoughts have always been, if a person is new enough to PC gaming to ask a question like this, then they should probably go with Nvidia. Not having to go searching for drivers/rolling back drivers, demanding patches, tinkering with INI files, and other inconveniences every time a new game is released is why I always direct the noobs to Nvidia.



hey, but im not a noob!, i can oc my i5, the graphics card, etc, i know how to do it , i just asked which card would do better performance for X money because i am lost about this since i own a gtx 285 and all this cards for me are unknown, you can say which is better or not because you already own one and know how it goes!!.

I will oc my i5 760 lynnfield to 4.5 , i heard it can go to 4.5 , correct me if im wrong, and about the cards, finally i wont be able to get an msi 570 twin frozr III because its out of stock @ spanish shops, its more expensive @ uk shops, and im afraid of buying it to germany for example and having to RMA it in the future.... so well! still looking around for a 570 that fits my economy ( 300 euro ) , and thx for all new responses! ill play @ 1920 x 1080 right now , but ill of course upgrade monitor , mother board, and will try to pay attention to next gen chips , dont know if i will go sli 570 in 2-3 years or if i will just sell my 570 and buy a 6xx? thanks for all info.

P.D. i watched the 6970 videos and seems like 6970 is still very good and just 1 card can ultra BF3 without problems, and we all know amd is better for xfire but im tired of watching/reading youtube videos/reviews of graphic cards that i cant find out in spain!

if you read all this you're the best :D 
January 11, 2012 6:47:03 PM

assaxito said:
hey, but im not a noob!, i can oc my i5, the graphics card, etc, i know how to do it , i just asked which card would do better performance for X money because i am lost about this since i own a gtx 285 and all this cards for me are unknown, you can say which is better or not because you already own one and know how it goes!!.

I will oc my i5 760 lynnfield to 4.5 , i heard it can go to 4.5 , correct me if im wrong, and about the cards, finally i wont be able to get an msi 570 twin frozr III because its out of stock @ spanish shops, its more expensive @ uk shops, and im afraid of buying it to germany for example and having to RMA it in the future.... so well! still looking around for a 570 that fits my economy ( 300 euro ) , and thx for all new responses! ill play @ 1920 x 1080 right now , but ill of course upgrade monitor , mother board, and will try to pay attention to next gen chips , dont know if i will go sli 570 in 2-3 years or if i will just sell my 570 and buy a 6xx? thanks for all info.

P.D. i watched the 6970 videos and seems like 6970 is still very good and just 1 card can ultra BF3 without problems, and we all know amd is better for xfire but im tired of watching/reading youtube videos/reviews of graphic cards that i cant find out in spain!

if you read all this you're the best :D 


I did read it all, and if you say you are not a noob then I have no reason not to believe you. But you have to understand, that most people who come on these forums asking questions with little to no user history, are usually noobs (or bored trolls, but that's another issue).

Seeing as how you seem to not be a noob, go with AMD. Sure, the 570 does better in most benchmarks, but look at how many games are optimized for Nvidia. The fact that AMD does so well in as many as they do is only because of the raw power of AMD. If you are willing to chase/roll back drivers, hunt mods, edit INI files, and everything else us AMD guys do, welcome aboard. The extra work pays off, friend.

Pick you up a 6970 or wait and check out the 7xxx cards. Either way, you'll be set.

Good luck.
a b U Graphics card
January 11, 2012 7:05:50 PM

Let's all be nice to each other. It is really hard to tell someones tone by what they wrote. I have found myself many times wondering exactly what someone is trying to say in a post.
January 11, 2012 7:23:27 PM

hehehe dont think i took your message as any insult! im sure a piece of ****! compared to any1 on this forum thats why i came here... to learn and maybe help someone else if they need to!

i'll then check for 6970, im not scared about driver issues, rollback drivers, oc & check temps, all i wanna do actually is get a graphic card and play BF3 !!!!!!!!!!!!! with your last reply ( PCGamer81 ) ill start to check then for a 6970 , but would you recommend me any? as i see the 570 twin frozr III from nvidia was the best, along with evga superclocked & asus CU II... come on guys, then give me 6970 prices & info !!!! thanks again! this seems to neverend!
January 11, 2012 11:56:20 PM

assaxito said:
hehehe dont think i took your message as any insult! im sure a piece of ****! compared to any1 on this forum thats why i came here... to learn and maybe help someone else if they need to!

i'll then check for 6970, im not scared about driver issues, rollback drivers, oc & check temps, all i wanna do actually is get a graphic card and play BF3 !!!!!!!!!!!!! with your last reply ( PCGamer81 ) ill start to check then for a 6970 , but would you recommend me any? as i see the 570 twin frozr III from nvidia was the best, along with evga superclocked & asus CU II... come on guys, then give me 6970 prices & info !!!! thanks again! this seems to neverend!


I have a Sapphire Radeon HD 6970 - two of them, actually. They work great.

If I had to recommend one, I would say go with a good EVGA 6970. Or an MSI 6970. But Sapphire is good, too. ASUS is good.

Just look on Newegg, stay within the brands I mentioned, and go nuts.

Good luck.

If you need anything else, just ask.
January 11, 2012 11:57:38 PM

alrobichaud said:
Let's all be nice to each other. It is really hard to tell someones tone by what they wrote. I have found myself many times wondering exactly what someone is trying to say in a post.


Words of wisdom, friend.
January 12, 2012 1:47:19 AM

I run a MSI 560ti 448 cores (remember the price might be high, but it stays cool unlike the other 448 core video cards) and I can run vsync on with all HIGH settings. Not sure what the anti anasiling is on and the other ***, but yeah if you really wanna know reply back, but I can run on high easily.
January 12, 2012 9:20:34 PM

progz said:
I run a MSI 560ti 448 cores (remember the price might be high, but it stays cool unlike the other 448 core video cards) and I can run vsync on with all HIGH settings. Not sure what the anti anasiling is on and the other ***, but yeah if you really wanna know reply back, but I can run on high easily.


The 560 is a very good card. No doubt about that.
a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2012 4:07:39 AM

but 6870 is better IMO!
January 13, 2012 10:05:51 AM

hellfire24 said:
but 6870 is better IMO!


The 560Ti is comparable performance wise to the 6950 2GB. The 570 to the 6970 2GB. And the 590 to the 6990 4GB.

The 6870 is comparable to a GTX280.

The card you have, the 580, would smoke all of the above, and in SLi would smoke both the 6990 and 590.
a b U Graphics card
January 13, 2012 10:15:40 AM

you said "The 560 is a very good card. No doubt about that." i replied to that gtx 560 not gtx 560ti :) 
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