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March 13, 2012 3:51:11 AM

I am willing to spend 700-850 at the most on the motherboard, RAM, HDD, SSD, Optical Drive, CPU, and CPU cooler for that is good for overclocking. All the rest I either have or I have them picked out.
If you could get a motherboard that is easy for someone who knows little about overclocking, yet wants to, and doesn't want to fry his system.

If you could, get the parts on either Tigerdirect, or Microcenter, as they are relatively near by me.

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March 13, 2012 4:15:25 AM

850 with an SSD in the mix might be tight on a top of the line build. without it, theres more room to work with, but yea fill out the form and lets see what you have to work with.
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March 13, 2012 5:27:55 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: This week or next week

Budget Range: 600-800

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming and Surfing the internet

Parts Not Required: PSU: Antec High Current Gamer HCG-750 700w
GPU: ASUS GTX560Ti OC 1GB 1GB DDR5 MEMORY
Case: NZXT Phantom
Monitor
Keyboard/mouse
CPU: i5 2500k
Preferred Website(s) for Parts:microcenter.com only if possible, but Tigerdirect.com could be another source
Country: U.S.

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: None

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I don't care about how loud it is unless it is a Corsair product, which fans are notoriously loud. Also a motherboard with OC failure precautions would be nice.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
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March 13, 2012 5:52:33 AM

MrFlyingbananas said:
Approximate Purchase Date: This week or next week

Budget Range: 750-850

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming and Surfing the internet

Parts Not Required: PSU: Antec High Current Gamer HCG-750 700w
GPU: ASUS GTX560Ti OC 1GB 1GB DDR5 MEMORY
Case: NZXT Phantom
Monitor
Keyboard/mouse
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Tigerdirect.com and microcenter.com

Country: U.S.

Parts Preferences: by brand or type: None

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I don't care about how loud it is unless it is a Corsair product, which fans are notoriously loud. Also a motherboard with OC failure precautions would be nice.



Never heard any noise from my Corsair power supply, dunno about their CPU coolers tho.

CPU- 2500k of course is the best processor on the market for gaming- No real debate there- unlocked multiplier for easy overclocking. $224 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Mobo- I would go with the Z68 chipset. I would consider Asus brand. I used to recommend Gigabyte, I've got an Asus Sabertooth thats gonna be here tomorrow (Tigerdirect was really cool about letting me swap brands) I had a great Gigabyte one, worked fine.. Til it died a month after having it.. due to that I won't recommend a mobo model. $120-200

HDD- Western Digital, or Seagate, can't complain about either brand. I have this one. $90 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

SSD- I'd get the highest capacity you can afford on your budget, a low capacity is miserable as a primary boot considering a single modern game can take over 10GB of space. Consider this: $180 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU cooler- I have one of these, http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... Its completely quiet push/pull type, but there are better ones if you're planning to do serious overclocking. $40

RAM- 16GB (4x4GB) 1600mhz http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... $100

Optical Drive- http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... $25

Total: $779- $859 (Subject to motherboard choice)



a b B Homebuilt system
March 13, 2012 5:52:57 AM

build

Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HD687AZHFC AMD Radeon HD 6870 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.1 x16 Video Card

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

ModXStream Pro 700W Modular ATX Power Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HAF912 Mid Tower ATX Computer Case

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST310005N1A1AS-Rk

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

total (with rebates) = $798 :D 
a b B Homebuilt system
March 13, 2012 5:53:45 AM

i forget to mention the cpu cooler

cooler master hyper 212 evo
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 5:58:55 AM

serialkiller said:
build

Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HD687AZHFC AMD Radeon HD 6870 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.1 x16 Video Card

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

ModXStream Pro 700W Modular ATX Power Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HAF912 Mid Tower ATX Computer Case

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST310005N1A1AS-Rk

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

total (with rebates) = $798 :D 



I've got a set of those Hyper Blue Kingstons as backup/diagnostic set. They work great, only downside is they're running at 1.65 volts. Corsair has their 1600mhz's running at 1.5v. I wouldn't mix em, and for future upgrades, I think you're gonna see more 1.5vs for DDR3.. at least thats my thought on it.
March 13, 2012 6:03:39 AM

nekulturny said:
Never heard any noise from my Corsair power supply, dunno about their CPU coolers tho.

CPU- 2500k of course is the best processor on the market for gaming- No real debate there- unlocked multiplier for easy overclocking. $224 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

Mobo- I would go with the Z68 chipset. I would consider Asus brand. I used to recommend Gigabyte, I've got an Asus Sabertooth thats gonna be here tomorrow (Tigerdirect was really cool about letting me swap brands) I had a great Gigabyte one, worked fine.. Til it died a month after having it.. due to that I won't recommend a mobo model. $120-200

HDD- Western Digital, or Seagate, can't complain about either brand. I have this one. $90 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

SSD- I'd get the highest capacity you can afford on your budget, a low capacity is miserable as a primary boot considering a single modern game can take over 10GB of space. Consider this: $180 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU cooler- I have one of these, http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... Its completely quiet push/pull type, but there are better ones if you're planning to do serious overclocking. $40

RAM- 16GB (4x4GB) 1600mhz http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... $100

Optical Drive- http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite... $25

Total: $779- $859 (Subject to motherboard choice)

The CPU cooler says that it doesn't support 1155 socket. Also microcenter has the i5 2500k CPU for less than the tigerdirect one. Can you look on microcenter for products like these please?
serialkiller said:
build

Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HD687AZHFC AMD Radeon HD 6870 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.1 x16 Video Card

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

ModXStream Pro 700W Modular ATX Power Supply

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HAF912 Mid Tower ATX Computer Case

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

HyperX blu 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop Memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST310005N1A1AS-Rk

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

total (with rebates) = $798 :D 

Nice job except that I don't need the GPU, PSU, and the case

a c 118 B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 6:05:47 AM

Quote:
The CPU cooler says that it doesn't support 1155 socket. Also microcenter has the i5 2500k CPU for less than the tigerdirect one.


It doesn't say it supports Bulldozer FX processors either, but it does. It comes with hardware to support a ton of CPUs.

As far as microcenter, I don't recommend parts from them simply because my shopping experience with them, they hit you with sales tax and shipping and it ends up being no cheaper than Tigerdirect or newegg.
March 13, 2012 6:08:03 AM

To everyone else who posts, I would like a SSD too.
March 13, 2012 6:09:54 AM

nekulturny said:
Quote:
The CPU cooler says that it doesn't support 1155 socket. Also microcenter has the i5 2500k CPU for less than the tigerdirect one.


It doesn't say it supports Bulldozer FX processors either, but it does. It comes with hardware to support a ton of CPUs.

As far as microcenter, I don't recommend parts from them simply because my shopping experience with them, they hit you with sales tax and shipping and it ends up being no cheaper than Tigerdirect or newegg.

I have one a little ways away from my house
Anonymous
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March 13, 2012 6:31:39 AM
a b B Homebuilt system
March 13, 2012 6:36:06 AM

ok so that is why i was missing something :lol: 


ok for motherboard the same

cpu the same

ram i forget needed a 1.5 v set

these should work

Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop RAM Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

for ssd these are the best ssd and a bit costly but has a 5 year warrenty and a verry reputable and intel is going to provide support trim to raild ssds of it :D 

520 Series 120GB SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

hdd the same

cooler

Hyper 212 EVO Universal CPU Cooler

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...









so build becomes

Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0354589

P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0378096

Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST310005N1A1AS-Rk

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0334293

Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop RAM Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

520 Series 120GB SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

Hyper 212 EVO Universal CPU Cooler

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...



total brings to(with rebates) = $777 :D 



hope this helps :hello: 
March 13, 2012 6:50:38 AM
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 6:57:03 AM

MrFlyingbananas said:
Please read my form that I filled out.



The parts he gave you were for reference only, you will find pretty much the same selection between all 3 stores. Sometimes we have preferences of which sites we like to navigate when recommending parts, you can easily find the model numbers on the site of your choice. ;) 
March 13, 2012 7:01:17 AM

nekulturny said:
The parts he gave you were for reference only, you will find pretty much the same selection between all 3 stores. Sometimes we have preferences of which sites we like to navigate when recommending parts, you can easily find the model numbers on the site of your choice. ;) 


Thanks for the info, and I like that price.
March 13, 2012 7:07:52 AM

Right now I am going with:
Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0354589

P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0378096

Barracuda 1TB 7,200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST310005N1A1AS-Rk

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0334293

Vengeance 8GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9 Dual Channel Desktop RAM Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0366817

Hyper 212 EVO Universal CPU Cooler

http://www.microcenter.com/single_ [...] id=0373900

128GB SSD

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
Objections?
a b B Homebuilt system
March 13, 2012 7:40:33 AM

looniam why are u posting the same thing again

i dont want to say but u are talking like a noob


we arent posting the ssd for ssd catching. to keep os and programs

:lol: 
a b B Homebuilt system
March 13, 2012 7:47:13 AM

i said that i aint posting ssds for ssd catching but to keep os and programs and by this the boot time will decrease and programs will open faster

ssd catching is for then who are tight on budget and want every thing speed which they normally use so by this the data frequently used is stored on ssd

u can make a ram disk which is very fast

if u want to know ram catching then go to this link

www.google.com
Anonymous
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a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 7:51:03 AM

serialkiller said:
looniam why are u posting the same thing again

i dont want to say but u are talking like a noob


we arent posting the ssd for ssd catching. to keep os and programs

:lol: 


because you keep passing on ignorant information.

with a $800 budget for a non workstation or high end media creation a SSD is a waste to have as an OS drive.

but if the builder wants to get too small of a drive for an OS, program and games; which would end up micro managing his files than so be it.

maybe do a little research yourself?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4329/intel-z68-chipset-sm...
March 13, 2012 8:50:18 AM

Anonymous said:
because you keep passing on ignorant information.

with a $800 budget for a non workstation or high end media creation a SSD is a waste to have as an OS drive.

but if the builder wants to get too small of a drive for an OS, program and games; which would end up micro managing his files than so be it.

maybe do a little research yourself?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4329/intel-z68-chipset-sm...

So, instead of the SSD being a Storage device, it turns into a RAM like system for your HDD?
Anonymous
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a b K Overclocking
a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 12:34:53 PM

MrFlyingbananas said:
So, instead of the SSD being a Storage device, it turns into a RAM like system for your HDD?


in a nutshell, yes. i am stealing this from Intel Z68 Express with Smart Response Technology

The Z68 Express’ drive controller monitors usage patterns on the hard drive and copies the most frequently accessed bits of data from the drive to the SSD.

Like other SSD / HD hybrid storage technologies, the data on the hard drives has to be accessed multiple times before it is copied to the solid state storage volume. So, the contents of the SSD will dynamically and constantly change over time, based on usage. The most commonly accessed data on the platters gets copied to the much higher performing SSD, which results in a performance boost when that data needs to be fetched.

so window's boot files and what programs or games you use the most migrate over to the SSD improving the performance. what you don't access much stays on the platter. unless you change your habits or what programs you use, it will stay the same. the less data is written to an SSD the longer it's life. SSD life expectancies are expressed in data written.

if someone has the money to spend $1.60 a gig for a pair of 254Gig quality SSDs to put in raid1 then great, use it as a system drive. if someone is going to get a cheap 128 Gig and throw an OS on it, they take the risk of losing their OS after a year. its better to get a quality 64gig SSD and use it for caching. it may not be as fast as an SSD OS drive but it will be secure and a lot faster than a platter.
a b B Homebuilt system
March 13, 2012 4:55:01 PM

every thing is copy paste nothing by ur self
March 13, 2012 7:28:05 PM

serialkiller said:
every thing is copy paste nothing by ur self

1. At least he uses your and he uses you instead of ur and u.
2. He did he reasearch, and I don't care if the post is copy pasted.
3. I don't want people to fight on this thread.
a c 118 B Homebuilt system
a b V Motherboard
March 13, 2012 8:31:57 PM

Can't we all just get along? I'm not going to comment on the SmartResponse, because I'm not too familiar with it, if it works great. Its something worth looking into to.

Quote:

1. At least he uses your and he uses you instead of ur and u.


*snickers* It's actually "you're" for "you are". But I hope nobody is grading us on grammar here, the minute we are, I shall tender my resignation immediately. And no, Tomshare is not entitled to regular visitations with my kitty cat.

As far as your choice in SSD goes, its your call. From what I understand of SmartResponse caching, its not quite as fast as using an SSD as primary boot. It depends on your budget and how much of the extra umph you want. In your opening post you didn't specify which it is that you wanted, so while I'm not going to back SerialKiller's play so to speak, I can see why it would be assumed that what you wanted was an SSD boot drive, not a cache.

I wont necessarily back loonium's play either, because I'm of the opinion that at current pricing, SSDs aren't worth the performance boost period. But this is coming from me who is not a heavy gamer. This is a matter of personal preference and budget. I certainly won't say they're a waste for a home user/gamer such as yourself as he said. It depends on your needs and expectations.
Anonymous
a b B Homebuilt system
a b K Overclocking
a b V Motherboard
March 14, 2012 2:12:01 AM

CPU
Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor $179.99 in store only (?)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

MOTHERBOARD
*GA-Z68X-UD3 $149.99 after rebate savings: $139.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
PCI-E x16-1@(16)or2@(8/8)
gigabyte page:
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3...

*call microcenter and check to see that it is REV 1.3, you can see what the differences are on the gigbyte page: no ivy or PCI-E 3.0 support if it is REV 1.0 then get:

GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 $164.99 after rebate savings: $154.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
gigabyte page:
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3...

both boards will give you sli/xfire @ 8/8 instead of 16/4 like an asus board.
also you can upgrade to ivy bridge and PCI-E 3.0 as with the asus board.

RAM
Vengeance Series 8GB DDR3-1600 $59.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
set your bios from default (auto) 1333 to 1600.(sandy bridge can handle 1600 and ivy by default)

CPU COOLER
Hyper 212 Plus Universal CPU Cooler $29.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...


HARD DRIVE- primary
Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6.0Gb/s $159.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
HARD DRIVE- storage
Caviar Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s $129.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...


OPTICAL
22x DVD±RW Super Multi Dual Layer Burner $15.99
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

high end cost(GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 & 2 HDs) $740.93 before $10 rebate
low end cost (GA-Z68X-UD3 & 1 HD) $595.94 before $10 rebate.

that leaves
(-)$40.93 to $109.07 in budget on high end cost.
or
$180.06-$254.06 in budget on low end cost.

before looking at an SSD i *highly* recommend reading Best SSDs For The Money: February 2012
then decide about cache/boot or a full blown OS.
a b B Homebuilt system
March 14, 2012 3:05:30 AM

+1 to nekulturny

i dont want to make foes but it is that without thinking and posting the same thing about your comment and not only me but gunit and hellfire and few others are we mad to suggest ssd for os .

Think dude


if any one thinks that why i write u instead of you because i was on my dumb phone as well as the habit of texting.

If i hurt someone then sorry

and the noob part that was rude :( 


so this is a tech site and not social
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