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2nd build using sli with gtx690 - recommend case

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June 28, 2012 7:11:14 AM

Hi All,

I'm looking a suitable case for my build. Currently, there are two case in consideration.

1. CM Storm Trooper
2. Corsair 600T White Edition

My Specs:
CPU: Intel Q9650
MB: ASUS Striker 2 Formula
Video Cards: 2x GXT690
PSU: 80+ gold 1200 - 1300 w

Any suggestions?
a b ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 8:15:27 AM

your cpu will bottleneck your gpu setup.i would suggest cheap upgrade of 2500k/extreme3 gen3.you will notice a huge difference as 2500k is way better than q9650.
one more thing,if you are thinking of 690 SLi with one monitor,then don't do it.a single 670 will easily max out almost any game at 1080p.for now,upgrade your cpu,motherboard and get a single 670.
for case,i would suggest something cheaper like phantom 410 or 400r.they will give you enough room,cooling and other required things for less.
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June 28, 2012 8:45:03 AM

Of course i know that when the CPU pair with the GPU it will cause bottleneck but i had no intentions to change it. Different lithography means very obvious difference. Any way, the board itself has x16/x16/x16 (3 slots of PCIE 2.0) of full speed.

The reason i consider the 600T is that i being able to do a bi-layer fan configuration (four fan mounted on the same area, 2 up and 2 down) which i done on my CM690 II. However, the Trooper case does has some features that are unique for my planning mods later.
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a c 110 ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 8:48:41 AM

How about the CM Storm Stryker? It's a white Storm Trooper with a side panel.


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June 28, 2012 10:00:53 AM

I think you guys might want to see my build. Here is it:

Side Window View


Top View (upper layer fans)


Internal Top View (lower layer fans)
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a b ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 11:33:29 AM

Technoart said:
Of course i know that when the CPU pair with the GPU it will cause bottleneck but i had no intentions to change it. Different lithography means very obvious difference. Any way, the board itself has x16/x16/x16 (3 slots of PCIE 2.0) of full speed.


that is a wrong wrong intention bro.x16 or x8 slots have negligible performance difference but 2500k will show a noticeable difference in every aspect.from rendering to gaming.spending $2k on a gpu setup for a single monitor is absolute wastage and foolishness.as i said and any other wise men will say,get a 670 and spend rest of your money on a better cpu/motherboard.for casing,there is no need to spend so much on a case.400r will run your rig with every bells and whistles on.
think about it and for further clarification,use google.
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June 28, 2012 12:23:42 PM

hellfire24 said:
that is a wrong wrong intention bro.x16 or x8 slots have negligible performance difference but 2500k will show a noticeable difference in every aspect.from rendering to gaming.spending $2k on a gpu setup for a single monitor is absolute wastage and foolishness.as i said and any other wise men will say,get a 670 and spend rest of your money on a better cpu/motherboard.for casing,there is no need to spend so much on a case.400r will run your rig with every bells and whistles on.
think about it and for further clarification,use google.


+100%

Help me (and other people here), do you need to SLI 2x 690s or is it just for bragging rights?

As for you CPU, dump it, take the money of the 2nd 690GTX and get yourself a new Ivy Bridge CPU (3770k/3570k).
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June 28, 2012 12:33:40 PM

hellfire24 said:
that is a wrong wrong intention bro.x16 or x8 slots have negligible performance difference but 2500k will show a noticeable difference in every aspect.from rendering to gaming.spending $2k on a gpu setup for a single monitor is absolute wastage and foolishness.as i said and any other wise men will say,get a 670 and spend rest of your money on a better cpu/motherboard.for casing,there is no need to spend so much on a case.400r will run your rig with every bells and whistles on.
think about it and for further clarification,use google.


What i mean is that even you Tri-SLI or Dual SLI, the board itself will always runs at

x16 single
x16/x16 dual sli
x16/x16/x16 tri sli

This this due to the NF200 chipset which coop the with NB and i had tested the mobo at x16 full speed tri-SLI and don't count in the CPU yet. As you may know, nowadays, not much mobo provided full x16 speed when under SLI setup. Either in X16/x0/x0 (single), x16/x16/x0 (dual), x16/x8/x8 (triple) by assuming there are 3 PCIE slots.

See the board's spec slot for reference:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/Strik...

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June 28, 2012 12:34:56 PM

hellfire24 said:
that is a wrong wrong intention bro.x16 or x8 slots have negligible performance difference but 2500k will show a noticeable difference in every aspect.from rendering to gaming.spending $2k on a gpu setup for a single monitor is absolute wastage and foolishness.as i said and any other wise men will say,get a 670 and spend rest of your money on a better cpu/motherboard.for casing,there is no need to spend so much on a case.400r will run your rig with every bells and whistles on.
think about it and for further clarification,use google.


What i mean is that even you Tri-SLI or Dual SLI, the board itself will always runs at

x16 single
x16/x16 dual sli
x16/x16/x16 tri sli

This this due to the NF200 chipset which coop the with NB and i had tested the mobo at x16 full speed tri-SLI and don't count in the CPU yet. As you may know, nowadays, not much mobo provided full x16 speed when under SLI setup. Either in X16/x0/x0 (single), x16/x16/x0 (dual), x16/x8/x8 (triple) by assuming there are 3 PCIE slots.

See the board's spec slot for reference:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/Strik...

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June 28, 2012 12:41:34 PM

I'd say the GTX 690 is a great choice for a GPU, however if you intent to have two, you better be running more than 1x1920x1080 or else it will have no effect!

When spending that amount of money on a GPU, it only makes sense to make sure the rest of the computer can keep up, with minimum an i5-2500K.
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June 28, 2012 12:56:47 PM

zander1983 said:
+100%

Help me (and other people here), do you need to SLI 2x 690s or is it just for bragging rights?

As for you CPU, dump it, take the money of the 2nd 690GTX and get yourself a new Ivy Bridge CPU (3770k/3570k).


Hi zander1983,

Using these duals isn't bragging. Basically, I'm an engineer who works at a wafer fab. We always had to render some Computer Aided Design or CAD based program plus programming source codes. Thus, you can imagine how our works are. I've always want to ask others people opinion before making a final decision. This helps me in analyze what solutions do we have before proceeding next step.

Other than that, i also using the pc for gaming.

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a b ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 4:50:10 PM

Technoart said:
What i mean is that even you Tri-SLI or Dual SLI, the board itself will always runs at

x16 single
x16/x16 dual sli
x16/x16/x16 tri sli

This this due to the NF200 chipset which coop the with NB and i had tested the mobo at x16 full speed tri-SLI and don't count in the CPU yet. As you may know, nowadays, not much mobo provided full x16 speed when under SLI setup. Either in X16/x0/x0 (single), x16/x16/x0 (dual), x16/x8/x8 (triple) by assuming there are 3 PCIE slots.

See the board's spec slot for reference:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_775/Strik...


thanks bro but i already know what you are talking about.x16/x8 makes hardly 2% difference depending on the resolution.
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a b ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 4:53:55 PM

Technoart said:

Using these duals isn't bragging. Basically, I'm an engineer who works at a wafer fab. We always had to render some Computer Aided Design or CAD based program plus programming source codes. Thus, you can imagine how our works are. I've always want to ask others people opinion before making a final decision. This helps me in analyze what solutions do we have before proceeding next step.

Other than that, i also using the pc for gaming.


you just helped me to answer you in a better way.what i am saying is that a pc with a 2500k/single 690 will give you better results than a pc with Q9650/dual 690s.you can add the another 690(which is useless for a single monitor and another 690 will NOT show enough improvement to justify another $1k).a cpu is more important factor when it comes to rendering and CAD stuff.i would a suggest a powerful multicore cpu with hyperthreading.aim for a 3770k,you can easily fit in $2k with a 690.
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a b ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 4:55:19 PM

zander1983 said:
+100%

Help me (and other people here), do you need to SLI 2x 690s or is it just for bragging rights?

As for you CPU, dump it, take the money of the 2nd 690GTX and get yourself a new Ivy Bridge CPU (3770k/3570k).


you are right and i am here :) 
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a b ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 5:00:18 PM

Or go for x79 and 39XX cpu and one GTX690.
-Bruce
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a b ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 5:17:39 PM

Avaruz said:
I'd say the GTX 690 is a great choice for a GPU, however if you intent to have two, you better be running more than 1x1920x1080 or else it will have no effect!

When spending that amount of money on a GPU,it only makes sense to make sure the rest of the computer can keep up, with minimum an i5-2500K.


+1.absolutely right.
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June 28, 2012 5:18:42 PM

Technoart said:
Hi zander1983,

Using these duals isn't bragging. Basically, I'm an engineer who works at a wafer fab. We always had to render some Computer Aided Design or CAD based program plus programming source codes. Thus, you can imagine how our works are. I've always want to ask others people opinion before making a final decision. This helps me in analyze what solutions do we have before proceeding next step.

Other than that, i also using the pc for gaming.


Here is and example of different platforms using to GTX 580's

3DMark Vantage
Striker II extreme
2 GTX 580 Q9450 4GB memory 3.6GHz
P31497
GPU 28241
CPU 48144

Sabertooth X58
2 GTX 580 i7-950 6GB Memory 4.0GHz
P44583
GPU 40583
CPU 64506

Sabertooth X79
2 GTX 580 i7-3930K 32GB Memory 4.55GHz
P52199
GPU 45278
CPU 96416

Each one of these boards has a pear of 16x slots which is all you need for two 690's. Those two 690's will just crush two 580's, so with your current platform you would be wasting your money, but with a board such as the Sabertooth X79 which has two PCIE 3 x16 slots on it you would realize all of there power. The i7-3930k has six core's and with hyper-treading 12 processor will greatly help with CAD design.
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a b ) Power supply
June 28, 2012 5:38:36 PM

^i don't use a 3dmark vantage as a very important benchmark but yeah 3930k will crush almost any quad core in terms of rendering and other stuff.only con is heat.
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June 28, 2012 5:52:20 PM

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I'm an engineer who works at a wafer fab


Doesn't any work related to this require you to use pro GPU's not gaming ones (if it doesn't please tell me who you manufactuer for so I can avoid anything they ever make)?
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June 28, 2012 5:56:40 PM

In this case I use 3DMark Vantage to point out the relative difference's between the different Platforms. On the other hand there are other programs I use for bench marks that I use to gather other types of information.
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June 28, 2012 6:01:58 PM

wr6133 said:
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I'm an engineer who works at a wafer fab


Doesn't any work related to this require you to use pro GPU's not gaming ones (if it doesn't please tell me who you manufactuer for so I can avoid anything they ever make)?


What would the difference be between the two, would make it bad to use 2 690's?
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June 28, 2012 6:21:46 PM

err yes bad to use gaming GPU's for workstation uses

GEFORCE = Gaming

QUADRO = Workstation



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June 28, 2012 8:24:00 PM

wr6133 said:
err yes bad to use gaming GPU's for workstation uses

GEFORCE = Gaming

QUADRO = Workstation


I believe that toms made a comparison and concluded you could use ether one but the gaming GPU would be a little slower for cad work but not enough for you to notice. So if you have a budget that wont allow you to buy a Quadro a Geforce would be your next choice.
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June 28, 2012 8:56:05 PM

you miss my point if he needs this for work the GEFORCE is not accepted as a pro solution.... as in not a serious option...... and for the $2000 on X2 690 there is a quadro solution
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a b ) Power supply
June 29, 2012 4:11:10 AM

^+1.but remember,Geforce can game well and run apps with decent potential but quadro sucks in gaming but a monster in pro apps.
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a c 110 ) Power supply
June 29, 2012 4:51:10 AM

wr6133 said:
you miss my point if he needs this for work the GEFORCE is not accepted as a pro solution.... as in not a serious option...... and for the $2000 on X2 690 there is a quadro solution

$2000 would get you quadro 5000 which outperforms the 690's. Heck, you can't even take advantage of SLI in 3d apps.
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a b ) Power supply
June 29, 2012 5:18:36 AM

^outperforms 690 in terms of 3d apps but when it comes to gaming,690 is the clear winner.in case of a gaming/3d app rig,690 is better overall.it has both computational power and gaming potential.
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June 29, 2012 8:03:33 AM

I think amuffin is the only one getting this...... you do not use gaming grade hardware and dated platforms as workstations....... its not accepted if the OP was really using this setup for wafer fab work he simply would not be doing this. Maybe people having some amateur fun at home or students on a budget wanting dual purpose, but in a professional setting you simply don't do it any work done on it would not be acceptable.
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June 29, 2012 9:54:23 AM

Hi Guys,

The CAD program itself a is portable yet medium size app. As long your thumbdrive has a space of 500MB, you can carry around anywhere. The app itself requires a simple TnL Hardware to render it. Thus, even a 5600 series will get the job done.

In terms of hardware on cpu and mobo, i've no intention at all to change it. Yes, when benchmark using the futuremark software on my specs, it does has lower points but losing some of these point doesn't affect me. If lagging occurs, just difference in couple of minutes, that's all. If not mistaken, a workstation gpu does not allows gaming. Quadro also allows SLI but when comes to game rendering, it are useless. I'm right?

The second build mainly consist mobility where I can carry around the PC either work or play. My budget are always in "No budget" terms. Anything that i found suitable, i'll throw inside the case. Simple and easy. Even I've built the PC around 2010, I'll throw away some junkies like GPU, and install a set of GPU either in Crossfie or SLI.

The third build which i expecting something like deca (10) core of CPU and pair with high end GPU in Crossfire or SLI form.

Another thing is that do you guys o/c when needed or do a setup on o/c and let it run for long term?
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