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January 10, 2012 5:21:40 PM

Hello, what I want to know is what graphic card should i buy to get respectable frame rates in most recent games with atleast medium settings. The problem is i only got $120-130 to spend. Any ideas?
Specs of my pc are :Intel i5 2300, 4gb DDR3 Ram, 500 GB hard disk and a 19'inch lg lcd

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January 10, 2012 6:38:27 PM

I agree with Mr. Freeman. Up until recently I would've said a 6790 would've been a decent choice for you, but since the price drop of most of the 6850 series, there's really no reason not to save the extra and go with that. Alternately if you're not a fan of ATI's drivers (like myself), the price of several brands of NVidia's GTX460 have come down in price, and offers similar real world performance to the 6850.
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January 10, 2012 8:35:50 PM

I picked up a PNY Nvidia GTX550ti yesterday for $140.00 at a chain store retail price. You may need to upgrade your power supply for any of thses cards though. I didn't see where you posted that. may have missed it...However. I also picked up an antec 620 High Current gamer for 75.00 plus tax on Newegg.com. Same price as the 520 so I took the 620 instead. This is assuming you are an ATX form factor. I was actualy looking for a GTS450 for around $140.00...Found a Readeon 6770 for $180.00. If you look online though at Newegg etc...You will beat retail store pricing.
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January 10, 2012 8:40:34 PM

The HD 6850 and GTX 460 both out perform the 550ti & 450.
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January 10, 2012 9:07:20 PM

At this price, get two!
PNY VCGGTX4601XPB GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $129.99 $99.99 after mail in rebate $7.56 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
These things overclock like a BEAST! Draws 160 W. MAX. About 14 Amps.
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January 11, 2012 1:16:31 AM

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Hey, buddy. Listen to me.

THE HD 5770 1GB is by far and away the greatest budget card in existence. It has an insanely high data rate (far surpassing the cruddy 6770), is DX11 compatible, can be overclocked to incredible speeds (unlike is long time rival, the 4870), is faster than any other AMD x770-x790, and can max any game on the market at 1280x720 - although it is known to really struggle at higher definitions. Yes, the 5850 and 6xxx budget cards will handle full HD better than the 5770, but at 1440x900 and under, the 5770 will smoke 'em, partner.

It is a beast of a little card, and comes highly recommended.


Quote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

'Nuff said.

This is definitely the one to get. Dual fans and just ready to be clocked to the max.

It will purr like a kitten - trust me.


Please don't listen to this jibberish... Sure the 5770 was a beast of a card, BACK IN IT'S TIME... However, it will NOT smoke a 5850 or any of the 68xx and higher cards.
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January 11, 2012 1:19:17 AM

DelroyMonjo said:
At this price, get two!
PNY VCGGTX4601XPB GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $129.99 $99.99 after mail in rebate $7.56 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
These things overclock like a BEAST! Draws 160 W. MAX. About 14 Amps.


+1

Damn. I had no idea the 460 was that cheap.

OP: If you go Nvidia, definitely go with this one.

If you go AMD, go with my suggestion - although the 460 does beat it. In fact, it almost beats two 5770's.
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January 11, 2012 1:19:26 AM

Either suggested 6770/5770 would be great - both have some of the best coolers on the market, or you could stretch your dollar to an HD 6790 or 6850. The bump in performance is equal to the price hike - up to an HD 6870 if you want to splurge. Make sure your case will fit the card, and make sure your PSU is able to power whatever you go with.
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January 11, 2012 1:20:21 AM

toneekay said:
Please don't listen to this jibberish... Sure the 5770 was a beast of a card, BACK IN IT'S TIME... However, it will NOT smoke a 5850 or any of the 68xx and higher cards.


It does struggle at higher definitions. I admit that. But for it's price and it's performance in 1280x720 it is a great buy. If he is planning to be gaming in higher definitions I would be reluctant to recommend it, and after seeing how much the 460 could be had for, I cannot recommend it at all, anymore. Unless the OP is determined to go AMD.
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January 11, 2012 1:21:58 AM

DelroyMonjo said:
At this price, get two!
PNY VCGGTX4601XPB GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $129.99 $99.99 after mail in rebate $7.56 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

+1 great find! That is one incredible price.

OP - if you can snag one before they're sold out, THIS is the best bang for your buck.
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January 11, 2012 1:22:03 AM

why would you buy a gpu now the 7970 gpu just release meaning price drops for 6000 and 5000 series
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January 11, 2012 1:23:44 AM

jessterman21 said:
+1 great find! That is one incredible price.

OP - if you can snag one before they're sold out, THIS is the best bang for your buck.


+2

I had no idea they came that cheap or I would not have wasted my time raving about the 5770. Boy do I feel dumb.

OP: Remember when I said the 5770 was great for overclocking? This card can be clocked even higher - you can almost get it to a 480's performance if you know what you are doing. If I would have know they could be had for that, I would have snagged a couple of these bad boys instead of my 6970's and got me an SSD with the money I saved. :( 
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January 11, 2012 1:28:21 AM

That GTX460 looks nice. For either it or an HD5/6770, make sure you have a quality 450W PSU (if by chance you have the 430W Earthwatts, but not Basiq or Thermaltake, that would be enough).
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January 11, 2012 1:32:13 AM

Onus said:
That GTX460 looks nice. For either it or an HD5/6770, make sure you have a quality 450W PSU (if by chance you have the 430W Earthwatts, but not Basiq or Thermaltake, that would be enough).


I would definitely recommend at least a good 500w PSU with some degree of 80+ certification if he wants the 460 and plans to overclock - that card is one of the best for overclocking.

I still cannot get over the $129.99 price tag. I am hurting inside because I have no need for it. I wonder if it can be hacked for to work as a physx card with my 6970's...

Does anyone know anything about that kind of thing?
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January 11, 2012 1:35:04 AM

@OP: without knowing how good your psu is, it's hard to recommend anything over radeon hd 6670 1 gb gddr5. it will serve you well with a 19" display.
depending on your location, these cards might be good choices, from the cheapest and least performing:
radeon hd 5670/6670 1 gb gddr5
5750/6750 1 gb gddr5
5770/6770 1 gb gddr5
and radeon hd 6850 1 gb gddr5.
his, msi offer good cooler for their cards with iceq turbo and twin frozr cards respectively. xfx cards are good too. asus cards are pricey, but their direct cu coolers are also good.
skip radeon hd 6790 and geforce gtx 550ti and gtx 460 if you can.
imo anything higher would be overkill.
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January 11, 2012 1:47:26 AM

There is no point in getting a Radeon 5770/6770 when for virtually the same price you can step up into an entry level BIG LEAGUE card in the form of 6850
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January 11, 2012 1:47:48 AM

OP:

If you are serious about obtaining a good GPU, and want one asap, this DelroyMonjo really stole the show with his recommendation of the 460.

It is without a doubt the one to get. DelroyMonjo is spot on with his recommendation.

Do you have a good PSU? How many watts? How much amperage per rail? Does it have some degree of 80+ certification? These are all questions you need to ask yourself before shopping for a GPU.
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January 11, 2012 1:53:27 AM

Gordon Freeman said:
There is no point in getting a Radeon 5770/6770 when for virtually the same price you can step up into an entry level BIG LEAGUE card in the form of 6850

This depends on the OP's PSU, about which we still know nothing. If it's a cheap generic, he might be lucky even to run a HD6670 on it.

Edit:...which, fortunately, is a pretty decent card for the 1440x900, 1368x768, or 1280x1024 resolution his 19" monitor is likely to have. Keeping in mind he wants at least medium settings, the more powerful cards are well and good, but a HD6670 is a quick and easy, SAFE choice that will not disappoint.
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January 11, 2012 1:58:03 AM

DelroyMonjo said:
At this price, get two!
PNY VCGGTX4601XPB GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $129.99 $99.99 after mail in rebate $7.56 shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
These things overclock like a BEAST! Draws 160 W. MAX. About 14 Amps.

good find!
Onus said:
This depends on the OP's PSU, about which we still know nothing. If it's a cheap generic, he might be lucky even to run a HD6670 on it.

+1
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January 11, 2012 1:58:37 AM

Gordon Freeman said:
There is no point in getting a Radeon 5770/6770 when for virtually the same price you can step up into an entry level BIG LEAGUE card in the form of 6850


What do you think about the 460? At $129.99? Still recommend the 6850?

Isn't the 460 a million times better for overclocking? Even capable of rivaling the 480 when overclocked to the max?

And isn't about $80 more than the 460?

I haven't owned either card, so really I am not qualified to say either way - just putting those out there...

I do know that the 6850 is about 10% more powerful than the 460, but you have to look at other things.

Overclocking potential, scaling if he ever wants to add a second card, and price. As well as power requirements (which the 460 requires more power, unfortunately).
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January 11, 2012 2:06:57 AM

A non-overclocked GTX460 still draws at least 12.5A (else it wouldn't need two PCIE power connectors). Overclock it, and 14A seems entirely likely. Right there you're at the limit of one of even a modest PSU's +12V rails. What say we wait until we know more about the PSU? We already know the OP's budget does not allow for a PSU replacement.

Edit: Anyway, I'm off to bed. I will check this thread in the morning.
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January 11, 2012 2:33:10 AM

432 watts on +12v rails combined, 70~% efficiency...
radeon hd 6670 1 gb gddr5 (stock specs) or 6750 1 gb gddr5 should may be safe able to run.
edit: after reading the hardwaresecrets review posted below.
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January 11, 2012 2:34:56 AM

That PSU is more than plenty... It's just your choice between AMD or Nvidia, and the top contenders are these two cards:

SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 ($150, but the promo code I posted above brings it down to $135 w/ free shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PNY VCGGTX4601XPB GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 ($130 + 7 bucks for shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


* Just like I've posted above, it's entirely up to you... I'm an Nvidia guy, but the specs and reviews make me look the AMD way between these two cards.
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January 11, 2012 3:26:41 AM

toneekay said:
* Just like I've posted above, it's entirely up to you... I'm an Nvidia guy, but the specs and reviews make me look the AMD way between these two cards.


I am a bit puzzled that you would recommend the 6850 considering the following facts...

The overclocking potential of the 460, the price of the 460, the fact that he won't have to go chasing/rolling back drivers, or waiting for a patch every time a game is released, or any other of the crap us AMD guy's have to go through.

To me, all of these things make the 460 the no brainer.

* Hey, I originally recommended the 5770 before I saw the 460 at this price. And I am an AMD guy all the way (just look at my current build).

:) 
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January 11, 2012 3:27:34 AM

wasif93 said:
Okay so this is my psu
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5906...
Do i need to get a new one?
So the majority opinion is i should go with the 460? 460 it is.
Just please tell me i don't need a new psu.


That is a VERY nice PSU.

Yes, you are set all the way up to a 6970/570, power wise.

Go with the 460, dude. It is an EXCELLENT GPU for overclocking, and you most definitely have the power to overclock it to the max. You will have some serious bang for your buck with that beast of a mid-range card. Rumor has it that it's overclocking potential puts it on par with higher end GPU's.

Enjoy, you will be playing with power. :) 
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January 11, 2012 3:44:11 AM

Thats not really that good of a psu if you think about it :p 
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January 11, 2012 4:03:43 AM

wasif93 said:
Okay so this is my psu
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=5906...
Do i need to get a new one?
So the majority opinion is i should go with the 460? 460 it is.
Just please tell me i don't need a new psu.


That PSU certainly has enough watts, however it looks to be a bit light on amps, so you may actually be stretching it to power a 460. Here's a Hardware Secrets review of that PSU, may give you better insight into what it can and can't handle.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX...
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January 11, 2012 4:19:21 AM

AMutedScream said:
That PSU certainly has enough watts, however it looks to be a bit light on amps, so you may actually be stretching it to power a 460. Here's a Hardware Secrets review of that PSU, may give you better insight into what it can and can't handle.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX...

yet another good find.
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January 11, 2012 4:43:05 AM

PCgamer81 said:
I am a bit puzzled that you would recommend the 6850 considering the following facts...

The overclocking potential of the 460, the price of the 460, the fact that he won't have to go chasing/rolling back drivers, or waiting for a patch every time a game is released, or any other of the crap us AMD guy's have to go through.

To me, all of these things make the 460 the no brainer.

* Hey, I originally recommended the 5770 before I saw the 460 at this price. And I am an AMD guy all the way (just look at my current build).

:) 


Well, for one, I've build several customer computers with 6850s and they've all been great performers. Also, all of the 6850s that I've worked with are ALSO great overclockers (they all hit 850mhz easy on stock voltage). The people that have the driver issues are just unlucky I guess, I've yet come come across any driver issues with any of the 6850s, and several other AMD cards (besides one 5670 a long, long time ago).

I'm not knocking on the 460, they're great cards, however, PNY is the only problem I have with the choice. I've had a total of 3 PNY cards that's failed me over the past couple of years (250, 550ti, and a 560). They all come at a good price (usually lower than all of the bigger names), but from my experience, I just cannot recommend PNY over Sapphire.

Of course this is all my in my opinion, and the OP is free to chose what he likes... and by looking at the rest of this thread, the 460 gets most of the votes.
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January 11, 2012 5:56:20 AM

toneekay said:
Well, for one, I've build several customer computers with 6850s and they've all been great performers. Also, all of the 6850s that I've worked with are ALSO great overclockers (they all hit 850mhz easy on stock voltage). The people that have the driver issues are just unlucky I guess, I've yet come come across any driver issues with any of the 6850s, and several other AMD cards (besides one 5670 a long, long time ago).

I'm not knocking on the 460, they're great cards, however, PNY is the only problem I have with the choice. I've had a total of 3 PNY cards that's failed me over the past couple of years (250, 550ti, and a 560). They all come at a good price (usually lower than all of the bigger names), but from my experience, I just cannot recommend PNY over Sapphire.

Of course this is all my in my opinion, and the OP is free to chose what he likes... and by looking at the rest of this thread, the 460 gets most of the votes.


But your recommendation is unlike mine, in that it's based in personal experience.

And I can respect that.

My original recommendation (5770) was based in experience. I have had wonderful results with my 5770.

But I pretty much jumped shipped to the 460 based on it's price point, overclocking ability, and the fact that it's Nvidia (which makes it easier with less headaches for newbies).

But you seem sold on the 6850 and have the personal experience to back it up. So I can't really fight you with hearsay.

Whatever the OP decides, I hope it is the right decision.

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January 11, 2012 6:03:05 AM

amuffin said:
Thats not really that good of a psu if you think about it :p 


Well, it is certainly not in the league of, say my PSU, but that's not fair - I have to run two GPU's. He don't.

For a single GPU, his 600w has plenty of amperage per vrail, not to mention 80+ certification. I think he could handle at least up to a 6950, and with ease.

I had this PSU in the past...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And it handled my single overclocked 6970 easy.
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January 11, 2012 6:23:52 AM

PCgamer81 said:

For a single GPU, his 600w has plenty of amperage per vrail, not to mention 80+ certification. I think he could handle at least up to a 6950, and with ease.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And it handled my single overclocked 6970 easy.

where does it say 80+ certified?
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January 11, 2012 8:54:19 AM

Ok, that PSU is rather fecal: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX...
As a mediocre 450W PSU, it might handle a stock GTX460, but not if you plan to overclock. As good a deal as that GTX460 is, the safest choice on that CM would be nothing more demanding that a HD5770 or HD6770. Given that the OP has a 19" monitor, these cards should provide excellent performance, on high to ultra settings.

Edit: This PSU with its liar-label is an example why I will not buy ANY CM product, no matter how good, because I have no desire to support a dishonest business.
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January 11, 2012 9:15:02 AM

Onus said:
Ok, that PSU is rather fecal: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eX...
As a mediocre 450W PSU, it might handle a stock GTX460, but not if you plan to overclock. As good a deal as that GTX460 is, the safest choice on that CM would be nothing more demanding that a HD5770 or HD6770. Given that the OP has a 19" monitor, these cards should provide excellent performance, on high to ultra settings.

Edit: This PSU with its liar-label is an example why I will not buy ANY CM product, no matter how good, because I have no desire to support a dishonest business.


Wow.

An oversight on my part.

Plenty of amperage per v-rail and 80+ certified my left acorn.

Thank you gentleman for stepping in, I could have sworn I was looking at something else.

Your right, that PSU is trash.
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January 11, 2012 9:22:35 AM

Wow, qiute alot of opinions. I think i'll go with the HD6770, I can get it from a local retailer for $125 while the 460 is priced around $160. And i won't need a new psu. One last thing, is there anything else i shoud be looking to upgrade? Other thn the Gpu that is.
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January 11, 2012 9:37:48 AM

wasif93 said:
Wow, qiute alot of opinions. I think i'll go with the HD6770, I can get it from a local retailer for $125 while the 460 is priced around $160. And i won't need a new psu. One last thing, is there anything else i shoud be looking to upgrade? Other thn the Gpu that is.


I hate to say it, but you are going to need a new PSU before too long.

When I built my current rig originally, I started with one 6970. When choosing my PSU, it was between the PSU I thought yours was (I posted a link to it), and the PSU I ended up choosing, the Antec 650w (I posted a link to that one, too). I don't know a whole lot about PSU's, and when I saw "Cooler-Master 600w", I automatically assumed it was the one I almost bought for my rig. I am sorry, but as pointed out by people of higher knowledge, it is not.

When I said your PSU was fine, I was sadly mistaken.

You have essentially a 450w PSU. Even though you could use it for the cards named, it is never good to run a PSU that close. It could burn up and damage other components. A good quality PSU like the Antec is only $60 or so, why don't you do yourself a favor and get it. Just keep in mind it doesn't come with a power cord (at least mine didn't, but the good folks at Micro-center got me one out of the back).

Good luck, man. I tried to help.
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January 11, 2012 9:37:55 AM

wasif93 said:
Wow, qiute alot of opinions. I think i'll go with the HD6770, I can get it from a local retailer for $125 while the 460 is priced around $160. And i won't need a new psu. One last thing, is there anything else i shoud be looking to upgrade? Other thn the Gpu that is.

well, yeah - the power supply. get a better one and you could run performance gfx cards with ease. stay away from deceitful marketing next time.
ask in the power supply section for psu advice. this should help.
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January 11, 2012 9:49:19 AM

Thnx mate, that did help. So could you suggest a decent Psu for around $60-65?
Im really going over my budget but might as well get it now.
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January 11, 2012 9:55:07 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

First time I see this PSU's specification, I was amazed because I think it's the best budget PSU by far I see.
Your PSU will be fine running probably any sub-$200 cards there. But you won't do any Crossfire probably.

If you are going to near $200 budget, I suggest you to get a 6870. But if you are not upgrading the monitor and stay with that monitor 6770 will be enough.
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January 11, 2012 9:56:50 AM

wasif93 said:
Thnx mate, that did help. So could you suggest a decent Psu for around $60-65?
Im really going over my budget but might as well get it now.


Buddy, I am not the most qualified to give you advice on a PSU, except on the one I myself have experience with. Unlike some, I only like giving advice on things I have first hand experience with. The PSU I have now is not feasible for your needs, but the one I had before is.

This is the best PSU that I can recommend. Maybe some of the other guys can do better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Maybe you can find it on amazon or somewhere for around $60, who knows.

It is a terrific PSU for the money - the best PSU that I can come up with, bang for your buck.

Just remember, it does not come with a power cord. So hang on to the one you have now.

Speaking of which, maybe you can sell your current PSU for £15/$25 or so. Might take the chill out of the water of having to buy a new PSU, ya' know?

Good luck, bro.
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January 11, 2012 10:02:03 AM

refillable said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

First time I see this PSU's specification, I was amazed because I think it's the best budget PSU by far I see.

If you are going to near $200 budget, I suggest you to get a 6870. But if you are not upgrading the monitor and stay with that monitor 6770 will be enough.


+1

Seasonic is a good brand.
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January 11, 2012 10:10:55 AM

:o  surprised that the antec has 2 38amps on the two +12v Rails! Is that legit? Because if you add them together it would be 76 amps and that is just... Crazy. But I think it's a typo. Anyway, I'm not master on this...
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January 11, 2012 10:30:42 AM

refillable said:
:o  surprised that the antec has 2 38amps on the two +12v Rails! Is that legit? Because if you add them together it would be 76 amps and that is just... Crazy. But I think it's a typo.

in the ratings chart, it says 650w max from +12v rails, means that the +12v rails can supply roughly 54 amps together, 27A on each rail. 38A is most likely the highest amount of current each rail can individually supply. same goes for other rails. i am not too good with psu calculation, hopefully someone with better knowledge will correct me if i'm wrong. thanks in advance. :) 
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January 11, 2012 10:33:30 AM

thanks de5roy.
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January 11, 2012 11:00:25 AM

de5_Roy said:
in the ratings chart, it says 650w max from +12v rails, means that the +12v rails can supply roughly 54 amps together, 27A on each rail. 38A is most likely the highest amount of current each rail can individually supply. same goes for other rails. i am not too good with psu calculation, hopefully someone with better knowledge will correct me if i'm wrong. thanks in advance. :) 


All I know, is it is one hell of a PSU. The best one I can recommend for his price range. I owned it, overclocked my Sapphire Radeon HD 6970 up as high as 950/1450 along with my Sandy Bridge up as high as 4.5GHz, and that PSU never so much as made a sound. It is excellent. And sitting in my closet, having been used 3 months.

I had to upgrade when I decided to go crossfire.
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