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I am trying to produce halftone images, (black and white, no colour)
from digital photographs, suitable for including in our village
magasine. I have Photoshop 7 and Cannon iP4000 inkjet printer. We
occasionally use professionally produced halftones, but these are too
expensive to use as often as we would like.
I currently prepare 'camera ready' pages of text, and this is
printed by off-set litho by a guy who clearly knows his stuff, but who
operates out of his shed with limited equipment. He requires images to
be 100 lpi, with 45 degree lines. I thought that I could do this
direct from Photoshop, using the Pint-with-Preview/Show More
Options/Screen command, but this clearly is not so, although I don't
really understand why. I also tried Filter/Pixellate/Colour Halftone,
but could not get a good image with the minimum dot size of 4 pixels. I
have researched this on-line, and seen many articles which have left me
confused. It seems that there are programmes available for achieving
halftones, but the software seems to be expensive and over technical
(ie lot of effort in giving good colour).
Is there a cheap solution to my problem e.g a plug-in filter for
Photoshop, or a simple, limited performance bit of software?
Two other queries. What is RIP. Is my printer Postscript compatible?
(Please do not be offended if I do not respond to replies immediately,
as I am away until 15 June)
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I think this is done through the Image > Mode > Convert to Bitmap where
it asks you how to dither. You'll need to choose a ridiculously large
resolution that makes enormous files which do not display on screen
unless zoomed 100%. Experiment on a small patch till you find the right
settings. I'm not even sure a 600dpi file would be big enough, maybe do
it at twice the size & xerox reduce.
DavidF wrote:
> I am trying to produce halftone images, (black and white, no colour)
> from digital photographs, suitable for including in our village
> magasine. I have Photoshop 7 and Cannon iP4000 inkjet printer. We
> occasionally use professionally produced halftones, but these are too
> expensive to use as often as we would like.
> I currently prepare 'camera ready' pages of text, and this is
> printed by off-set litho by a guy who clearly knows his stuff, but who
> operates out of his shed with limited equipment. He requires images to
> be 100 lpi, with 45 degree lines. I thought that I could do this
> direct from Photoshop, using the Pint-with-Preview/Show More
> Options/Screen command, but this clearly is not so, although I don't
> really understand why. I also tried Filter/Pixellate/Colour Halftone,
> but could not get a good image with the minimum dot size of 4 pixels. I
> have researched this on-line, and seen many articles which have left me
> confused. It seems that there are programmes available for achieving
> halftones, but the software seems to be expensive and over technical
> (ie lot of effort in giving good colour).
> Is there a cheap solution to my problem e.g a plug-in filter for
> Photoshop, or a simple, limited performance bit of software?
> Two other queries. What is RIP. Is my printer Postscript compatible?
>
> (Please do not be offended if I do not respond to replies immediately,
> as I am away until 15 June)
>
> Regards, DavidF
>
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Paul Furman wrote:
> I think this is done through the Image > Mode > Convert to Bitmap where
> it asks you how to dither. You'll need to choose a ridiculously large
> resolution that makes enormous files which do not display on screen
> unless zoomed 100%. Experiment on a small patch till you find the right
> settings. I'm not even sure a 600dpi file would be big enough, maybe do
> it at twice the size & xerox reduce.
>
> DavidF wrote:
>
>> I am trying to produce halftone images, (black and white, no colour)
>> from digital photographs, suitable for including in our village
>> magasine. I have Photoshop 7 and Cannon iP4000 inkjet printer. We
>> occasionally use professionally produced halftones, but these are too
>> expensive to use as often as we would like.
>> I currently prepare 'camera ready' pages of text, and this is
>> printed by off-set litho by a guy who clearly knows his stuff, but who
>> operates out of his shed with limited equipment. He requires images to
>> be 100 lpi, with 45 degree lines. I thought that I could do this
>> direct from Photoshop, using the Pint-with-Preview/Show More
>> Options/Screen command, but this clearly is not so, although I don't
>> really understand why. I also tried Filter/Pixellate/Colour Halftone,
>> but could not get a good image with the minimum dot size of 4 pixels. I
>> have researched this on-line, and seen many articles which have left me
>> confused. It seems that there are programmes available for achieving
>> halftones, but the software seems to be expensive and over technical
>> (ie lot of effort in giving good colour).
>> Is there a cheap solution to my problem e.g a plug-in filter for
>> Photoshop, or a simple, limited performance bit of software?
>> Two other queries. What is RIP. Is my printer Postscript compatible?
>>
>> (Please do not be offended if I do not respond to replies immediately,
>> as I am away until 15 June)
>>
>> Regards, DavidF
>>
>
The printing firm you are using may well need a particular dpi and
format, so you need to use what they require.
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Don Stauffer wrote:
> Paul Furman wrote:
>
>> I think this is done through the Image > Mode > Convert to Bitmap
>> where it asks you how to dither. You'll need to choose a ridiculously
>> large resolution that makes enormous files which do not display on
>> screen unless zoomed 100%. Experiment on a small patch till you find
>> the right settings. I'm not even sure a 600dpi file would be big
>> enough, maybe do it at twice the size & xerox reduce.
I don't understand the above.
>>
>> DavidF wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to produce halftone images, (black and white, no colour)
>>> from digital photographs, suitable for including in our village
>>> magasine. I have Photoshop 7 and Cannon iP4000 inkjet printer. We
>>> occasionally use professionally produced halftones, but these are too
>>> expensive to use as often as we would like.
>>> I currently prepare 'camera ready' pages of text, and this is
>>> printed by off-set litho by a guy who clearly knows his stuff, but who
>>> operates out of his shed with limited equipment. He requires images to
>>> be 100 lpi, with 45 degree lines. I thought that I could do this
>>> direct from Photoshop, using the Pint-with-Preview/Show More
>>> Options/Screen command, but this clearly is not so, although I don't
>>> really understand why. I also tried Filter/Pixellate/Colour Halftone,
>>> but could not get a good image with the minimum dot size of 4 pixels. I
>>> have researched this on-line, and seen many articles which have left me
>>> confused. It seems that there are programmes available for achieving
>>> halftones, but the software seems to be expensive and over technical
>>> (ie lot of effort in giving good colour).
>>> Is there a cheap solution to my problem e.g a plug-in filter for
>>> Photoshop, or a simple, limited performance bit of software?
<< Snipped bits out >>
You can make an action in PS that'll do most of the work after you get
the first one down pat.
>>
> The printing firm you are using may well need a particular dpi and
> format, so you need to use what they require.
The more specifics you can get from them, the better.
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DavidF <david_p_f2001@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>I am trying to produce halftone images, (black and white, no colour)
>from digital photographs, suitable for including in our village
>magasine. I have Photoshop 7 and Cannon iP4000 inkjet printer. We
>occasionally use professionally produced halftones, but these are too
>expensive to use as often as we would like.
>I currently prepare 'camera ready' pages of text, and this is
>printed by off-set litho by a guy who clearly knows his stuff, but who
>operates out of his shed with limited equipment. He requires images to
>be 100 lpi, with 45 degree lines. I thought that I could do this
>direct from Photoshop, using the Pint-with-Preview/Show More
>Options/Screen command, but this clearly is not so, although I don't
>really understand why.
Well, I'm using Photoshop 9 and it took me just a few seconds to look
up halftoning in the help. The short version is
1) Convert to grayscale
2) Image > Mode > Bitmap menu item
3) Choose "halftone screen" from the method popup and fill in the
appropriate values.
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John McWilliams wrote:
>> Paul Furman wrote:
>>
>>> I think this is done through the Image > Mode > Convert to Bitmap
>>> where it asks you how to dither. You'll need to choose a ridiculously
>>> large resolution that makes enormous files which do not display on
>>> screen unless zoomed 100%. Experiment on a small patch till you find
>>> the right settings. I'm not even sure a 600dpi file would be big
>>> enough, maybe do it at twice the size & xerox reduce.
>
>
> I don't understand the above.
The printer needs a B&W (not greyscale) image that uses closely spaced
black lines of varying widths. 600 lines per inch is very high detail
digitally speaking, especially at an angle and leaving room for varying
widths. Optically, you would expose a piece of high contrast print paper
with a striped screen & the brighter areas would make thin lines, dark
areas make fat lines. With a digital process, you probably would have to
print at double the size and optically shrink that. A xerox reduction
might work.
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Ray Fischer wrote:
> DavidF <david_p_f2001@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I am trying to produce halftone images, (black and white, no colour)
>
>>from digital photographs, suitable for including in our village
>
>>magasine. I have Photoshop 7 and Cannon iP4000 inkjet printer. We
>>occasionally use professionally produced halftones, but these are too
>>expensive to use as often as we would like.
>>I currently prepare 'camera ready' pages of text, and this is
>>printed by off-set litho by a guy who clearly knows his stuff, but who
>>operates out of his shed with limited equipment. He requires images to
>>be 100 lpi, with 45 degree lines. I thought that I could do this
>>direct from Photoshop, using the Pint-with-Preview/Show More
>>Options/Screen command, but this clearly is not so, although I don't
>>really understand why.
>
>
> Well, I'm using Photoshop 9 and it took me just a few seconds to look
> up halftoning in the help. The short version is
>
> 1) Convert to grayscale
> 2) Image > Mode > Bitmap menu item
> 3) Choose "halftone screen" from the method popup and fill in the
> appropriate values.
>
There is a similar function in Paint Shop Pro. It does not produce a tue halftone, in
which darker areas have bigger spots, and lighht areas have smaller spots. The actual
print is black and white, but to the eye it resembles a half tone. A print made with
this effect may be close enough to meet the needs of your printer.
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