I am an occasional gamer, have been using integrated cards so far to play
such games as most wanted, doom3, quake4 or swat.
It seems though that to run crysis2 there is no chance with integrated stuff.
I would appreciate your help in choosing for me the right card.
here are my specs
q6600
3 gb ram
winxp pro
1024/786 crt
nexus value 430 PSU
gigabyte ga-g31m-s2l MOBO
I want a economical choice, I see that there are quite cheap gt8800 cards, which probbably will not need a stronger PSU. Ideally, I wouldn't have to buy a new psu.
When dealing with cards this low end, having oodles of ram won't make any difference. I'd go for the 512MB DDR5 over the 1GB DDR3. Having the extra ram will help applying higher levels of AA, but the 5670 is to slow to do that.
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maybe go for the sapphire 6670 as its gddr5 which will give you faster performance also the 6670 is slightly more powerful than the 5670 so you should have no trouble running crysis2. also i have that card and can play crysis 2 @ 1920x1080
Why not get an 5770 for 15-20$ more? It's 2-3x faster than the 5670/6670, and your PSU will handle it, the 5700's (6700's) don't require a powerfull psu.
If you're a begginer don't risk it with that psu and mobo, they're low end and not sufficient for oc'ing, plus your 5670 will still be the bottleneck, that q6600 will bottleneck something like a 6950/gtx560 ti, not a 5670.
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There is a lot of good sound advice. It is your money your computer your choice. But unkonwn_13 is right it would be pointless to OC anything on your rig. Maybe some time in the fucture with a new rig of sorts then revisit this site and go from there. Good luck to you.
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I don't think that CPU would require any overclocking. Besides, you'd need to get an aftermarket cooler, as well as a new PSU and motherboard to make sure that overclock is a good one.
Before tomorrow I have another chance to decide between widely recommended, convincing hd5670
and
hd4850
The latter (HD4850)
is faster: 1000 vs 650 GFlops
costs the same (have found an offer for new in a good shop)
uses twice as many watts (110 vs 55)
and
seems 2x higher (or is it an illusion?)
The wattache of psu recommended by the shop is 450W - my Nexus430Value offers 20watts less.
Directx10 vs 11 does not seem to matter with my WindowsXP
My only concern is the wattage. With 4 hard disks - isn't it too high strain?
Independent regulated, 80% or better for the most part, and claims to do 384W on the (4???) 12v rails. This is 32A, and should be enough for a single GPU card. I say risk it. Better then most "value" units I've seen.
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Before tomorrow I have another chance to decide between widely recommended, convincing hd5670
and
hd4850
The latter (HD4850)
is faster: 1000 vs 650 GFlops
costs the same (have found an offer for new in a good shop)
uses twice as many watts (110 vs 55)
and
seems 2x higher (or is it an illusion?)
The wattache of psu recommended by the shop is 450W - my Nexus430Value offers 20watts less.
Directx10 vs 11 does not seem to matter with my WindowsXP
My only concern is the wattage. With 4 hard disks - isn't it too high strain?
The HD 4850 is a very good gpu, much faster than an 5670, but if isn't 10-15$ cheaper than the 5770/6770's, then get the 5770/6770.
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on 1024x768 Crysis 2 plays at gamer settings, portal 2 maxed out. I am going to try Need For Speed Hot Pursuit2.
Visual side is STELLAR. I didn't expect there would be such a fantastic difference between Quake 4 and Crysis2. I have reached the site with 3 alien pods and so far animation has been seamless.
I am in doubt whether to close the computer, don't want it to fry.
And the loudness is higher than I expected.
Temperature is 52 and fan speed 44%.
I will close the cover and reduce the fan to 32% and see what happens.
**
After lowering it to to 32%, the temperature rose to 55 degrees.
Finally a warnig for others inexperienced. This is another effect of my inexperience with computer components - the mobo setup does not allow 2 pcis and pcie*2, because of the arrangement of ports - second part of the card covers the pci port. This thing is regardless of the card - all the new ones take two rows, it's onloy now that I realise that.
Sorry to hear that. Now I think this is where I start Planning on a new rig. What I mean is how much money I can save and how fast. I am doing that for my new GPU's and the way I see it, It will be at least a year or so before I can get them. I do wish you the best of luck
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The system gets too hot, as I close teh box, too loud if opened.
I tend to think I don't want such a computer. I use it for the net, for some job stuff, and such a card appears to demand more messing around than I can spare.
I just sold my single slot 4850. They do exist. Most are dual slot these days but it is possible to find single slot cards.
55c isn't bad for a GPU. (even for a CPU you'd be fine.) If you're that worried about it get some case fans. You should be able to get some slow spinning 120mm case fans that will help.
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on 1024x768 Crysis 2 plays at gamer settings, portal 2 maxed out. I am going to try Need For Speed Hot Pursuit2.
Visual side is STELLAR. I didn't expect there would be such a fantastic difference between Quake 4 and Crysis2. I have reached the site with 3 alien pods and so far animation has been seamless.
I am in doubt whether to close the computer, don't want it to fry.
And the loudness is higher than I expected.
Temperature is 52 and fan speed 44%.
I will close the cover and reduce the fan to 32% and see what happens.
**
After lowering it to to 32%, the temperature rose to 55 degrees.
Finally a warnig for others inexperienced. This is another effect of my inexperience with computer components - the mobo setup does not allow 2 pcis and pcie*2, because of the arrangement of ports - second part of the card covers the pci port. This thing is regardless of the card - all the new ones take two rows, it's onloy now that I realise that.
just want to share my system
got i3 2100 and 4670 card and i can play crysis 2 at advance setting w/ 30fps,MWF3 maxout 30 t0 40 fps,battlefield 3 high auto settings 25-30fps at 1366x768 res..,so i think 5670/6770 can afford wat you want in most games. You should pick this rather than 4850
Congrats on the purchase Now, you should run Crysis 2 @ 1024x768 all maxed out, or at extreme settings, i run it at ultra settings at that resolution and get around 35fps on average.
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I eventually resigned from 4850, because it was too hot and unbearably loud even at the lowest fan speed (either the volume or maybe the sountd of the fan - doesn't matter).
I finally decided to get back to what I was recommended here from the very beginning: hd5670 512 ddr5. I found a sindgle height one, ata good price. So far, I am VERY HAPPY about the choice. Thank you, all the ppl who responded in this thread. That's much appreciated.
Now I realise the card is not MSI, contrary to what the serial no suggests.
Here are the data given by the seller at an electronic auction:
Given that i did not get a box, I suspect the card is a noname?
There is however a strange behavious in Catalyst.
I enabled overdrive to set hi perf gpu to 650mhz and mem clock to 100mhz, as it reads in the technical data quoted by the reseller and in the current values below the figures are respectively 157mhz and 450mhz. How come?
I see. If I leave the card to self regulate, with games like NFS Most Wanted (a game even my integrated gfx card could handle) according to SpeedFan software it reaches no more than 70degrees C, so I guess it's okay. But with Crysis 2 SF reported even above 80. As I set in catalyst the fan to a constant 65%, it remains below 70degC. A simple conclusion: speed up the fan manually before Crysis. But isn't there a more automatic way, so that as the temperature approaches 70dCelsius, the fan should speed up?