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March 16, 2012 9:27:23 PM

After some advice on here, I decide to redo my list of parts to be more financially friendly (compared to what it was originally).

So will the following be good enough for gaming? This is my first build so I don't know much about the parts and their quality.

CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost)
Mobo - ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
Fan - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Video Card - EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB
Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM
DVD Drive - HP 24X Multiformat DVD Burner 24X DVD+R
Power Supply - COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSA00-80GAD3-US 1000W
Case - NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red Steel
Speakers - Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1
Mouse - Logitech G9x Black Two modes scroll USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse
Keyboard - RAZER Arctosa Black 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard
Monitor - Dell UltraSharp U2412M Black 24" 8ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Wireless Adapter - TP-LINK TL-WN722N Wireless Adapter High Gain IEEE 802.11b/g/n

Thanks for reading! :) 

March 16, 2012 9:44:34 PM

Hey there Vegito, you can save money and still get the same results that's for sure. You're spending a lot more than you need to and the end performance isn't all that different.

Check out my $850 build:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Just get the 7870 when it releases in a few days to a week (+140)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...
It performs better than the 580, for $100 less lower power consumption and saves power.
The Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 has gotten great reviews and the overall overclocking isn't all that much different from the P8Z68-V/Gen3, the features are similar and you still get Tri-CF/SLI support @ 8x/8x/4x but you save 50$
Another thing, you definitely don't need the CM 1000w let alone after you have the 7870. The 7870 consumes so much LESS power that it really only needs a 7870 to CF but still performs @ the 580's level. Luls. That's the benefit of the newer 28nm fabrication.
Monitor wise I'd save a little bit, hard to the normal human eye to notice any difference between the monitors but your choice overall.
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March 16, 2012 9:45:35 PM

Nice.

Research your power supply choice: "Power Supply - COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSA00-80GAD3-US 1000W "

1) Reviews mostly positive: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Si...

2) Size is too large. Most of the time your system is going to be running 100 watts. The rest of the time it will surge to 300. Well less than 1000w. A power supply is not very efficient at low utilization so you end up dumping a lot of extra heat into the room and eventually back into the case. Unless you plan to add a lot more parts a quality 600 watt PSU would be on the high end. << Others plz add second opinions here!!>>
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March 16, 2012 11:36:45 PM

"So will the following be good enough for gaming?"
It's like asking if your Ferrari can get 60 mph. This is enough to play pretty much any two games, each on their own 1080 pixel monitor.
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March 17, 2012 3:11:07 AM

CF 7870 is not @ the 580s level. It is FAR beyond it for A LOT less power (350W less for CF than SLI).
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March 17, 2012 7:14:17 AM

Haven't seen any benchmark comparisons to actual SLI 580 but I will agree that the power consumption is far less.
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March 17, 2012 7:31:19 AM

Yes I've seen reviews on 7870 CF and 7850 CF such as Tweaktown however they never compare it to a SLI 580 setup. Obviously temps and consumption will be higher but I'm pretty sure performance will be around the same as SLI 580's should have pretty solid scaling like the 7870. Never know though. Just have to wait and see.
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March 17, 2012 7:35:35 AM

vegito7192 said:
After some advice on here, I decide to redo my list of parts to be more financially friendly (compared to what it was originally).

So will the following be good enough for gaming? This is my first build so I don't know much about the parts and their quality.

CPU - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost)
Mobo - ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
Fan - COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Video Card - EVGA 015-P3-1580-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB
Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM
DVD Drive - HP 24X Multiformat DVD Burner 24X DVD+R
Power Supply - COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSA00-80GAD3-US 1000W
Case - NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red Steel
Speakers - Logitech Z506 75 watts RMS 5.1
Mouse - Logitech G9x Black Two modes scroll USB Wired Laser 5700 dpi Gaming Mouse
Keyboard - RAZER Arctosa Black 104 Normal Keys USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard
Monitor - Dell UltraSharp U2412M Black 24" 8ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor
OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
Wireless Adapter - TP-LINK TL-WN722N Wireless Adapter High Gain IEEE 802.11b/g/n

Thanks for reading! :) 



excellent choice but only two changes-
switch to 7970 instead of gtx 580 and change psu to xfx xxx 850w.other things are good.
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March 17, 2012 7:41:19 AM

tsnor said:
Nice.

Research your power supply choice: "Power Supply - COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSA00-80GAD3-US 1000W "

1) Reviews mostly positive: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-Si...

2) Size is too large. Most of the time your system is going to be running 100 watts. The rest of the time it will surge to 300. Well less than 1000w. A power supply is not very efficient at low utilization so you end up dumping a lot of extra heat into the room and eventually back into the case. Unless you plan to add a lot more parts a quality 600 watt PSU would be on the high end. << Others plz add second opinions here!!>>


Except for power supplies being more efficient at higher utilization, this is just flat out wrong. YOU WILL DESTROY YOUR SYSTEM IF YOU LISTEN TO THIS GUY.

2500k - 95w (125w @ load)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

580 - 170w idle (390w @ load)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...

optical drive - 30w
HDD - 30w
SSD - 3w
case fans - 5w per fan (4 fans in the NZXT phantom, so 20w total)
cpu FAN - 5W

This machine will draw over 600w under a heavy load (i.e. gaming). A 1000w PSU is overkill, however. Since your mobo only has 1 video slot, you won't be running SLI/Xfire. You'll need about an 750w 80+. PSU's lose wattage over time, so that will give you enough to last down the road with some room for expansion. If you eventually want to run 580's in SLI, though, your original PSU isn't such a bad idea - you'll need a different mobo, though :) 

Also, just as important as the total wattage provided by the PSU for a gaming system is the amperage on the +12v rails.
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March 17, 2012 5:05:24 PM

.... quill you do realize the 7850/7870 is a better route right...
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March 17, 2012 6:55:06 PM

wait, i'm confused. I've seen many different opinions regarding 7850/70 and the gtx 580. which is better? And do I need 2 video cards and a different mobo?

OH and BTW, I chose the 3GB GTX 580 now instead of the 1536MB GTX 580. Since it has more VRAM, will it be relevant for a few years? Or should I go for the 7850?

So to sum up my concerns

-Will I need a different mobo even if I decide to stay with the GTX 580?
-I downgraded to a 850W PSU, how do I know if it's compatible with my mobo?
-Is it really worth investing over $800 for two video cards?

Sorry for all of these questions :( 
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March 17, 2012 7:04:02 PM

7870 is a better option.i am saying this being a gtx 580 owner LOLOLOL!!
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March 17, 2012 7:09:40 PM

-What is SLI technology? (Like I said, I'm a newbie)
-Do I need two video cards for that?
-Are PSU's universally compatible with any mobo?
-Should I get a different mobo if I go with 7870?
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March 17, 2012 7:14:20 PM

using more than one gfx is SLi/CF
yes you need two identical cards for SLi
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March 17, 2012 7:17:59 PM

You don't need to spend $800 on 2 GPUs when 1 7870 is good enough for you. Vegito I strongly suggest you just follow that build I posted above if you checked it out. A 750w would be quite sufficient in powering Crossfire 7870s.
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March 17, 2012 7:19:17 PM

Wow, thanks for your help everyone! The community here is simply amazing and has been helping learn much more about building computers.

Thank you! :D 
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March 17, 2012 7:20:05 PM

Best answer selected by vegito7192.
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March 17, 2012 9:25:21 PM

quilciri said:
Except for power supplies being more efficient at higher utilization, this is just flat out wrong. YOU WILL DESTROY YOUR SYSTEM IF YOU LISTEN TO THIS GUY.

2500k - 95w (125w @ load)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

580 - 170w idle (390w @ load)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4008/nvidias-geforce-gtx-...

optical drive - 30w
HDD - 30w
SSD - 3w
case fans - 5w per fan (4 fans in the NZXT phantom, so 20w total)
cpu FAN - 5W

This machine will draw over 600w under a heavy load (i.e. gaming). A 1000w PSU is overkill, however. Since your mobo only has 1 video slot, you won't be running SLI/Xfire. You'll need about an 750w 80+. PSU's lose wattage over time, so that will give you enough to last down the road with some room for expansion. If you eventually want to run 580's in SLI, though, your original PSU isn't such a bad idea - you'll need a different mobo, though :) 

Also, just as important as the total wattage provided by the PSU for a gaming system is the amperage on the +12v rails.


DUDE, you aren't confusing ENTIRE system power reading from anandtech with card power readings then adding in base system are you? Maybe double check before posting someone is wrong. Anadtech got a TOTAL of 390W for the entire ssytem including an OC'd Intel Core i7-920 @ 3.33GHz. Right?

EDIT: And if you assume 80% PSU efficiency you get an PSU output total for the Anandtech 580 system of .... 312W with the i7-920, kissing close to the 300W I posted would be the max load when I suggested the 600W PSU. "YOU WILL DESTROY YOUR SYSTEM IF YOU LISTEN TO THIS GUY. " jeeze.
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March 18, 2012 12:32:20 AM

Lol fail @ quilciri.
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