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June 30, 2012 7:31:39 PM

Hi guys,
i'm planning to buy new cpu and i found AMD Phenom II X4 945 and i don't know i it's worth buying... Wanted to ask what you think about it. I need a processor for gaming (Battlefield 3, Arkham City, Crysis 2, Shogun 2), for 3ds Max and 1080p movies in Splash Pro. PLeaseee help.

My specs:
-Dual Core e5200,
-2x4gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz,
-asus p5g41t-m lx3,
-500gb seagate,
-Radeon HD 6770.

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June 30, 2012 9:18:10 PM

Thats a very good budget CPU but its not going to work on your motherboard since thats an Intel processor youve got there. You need to be looking at the Intel procs for your upgrade. And thats a pretty old socket 775 CPU so youll need to be looking at the Core 2 line or youll have to get a new motherboard. That is a decent motherboard youve got there so see if you can dig up a Core 2 Quad or Core 2 Duo somewhere.
June 30, 2012 9:57:04 PM

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Thats a very good budget CPU but its not going to work on your motherboard since thats an Intel processor youve got there. You need to be looking at the Intel procs for your upgrade. And thats a pretty old socket 775 CPU so youll need to be looking at the Core 2 line or youll have to get a new motherboard. That is a decent motherboard youve got there so see if you can dig up a Core 2 Quad or Core 2 Duo somewhere.


Ha!
Very funny:)  Im a professional 3d artist and i know sth about computers... of course i have to change my mobo (in this case it would be mobo with AM3 socket). I didn't mention it because i thought it was obvious...
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June 30, 2012 9:59:40 PM

Well ya never know how green some folks are. ;) 

What kind of budget are you looking at here? If youre going to go with a new motherboard, RAM and operating system, might be able to build ya something a little better than that X3.
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June 30, 2012 10:36:59 PM

I would spend the extra money on a Phenom II, I run an x4 945 and with a little OCing it's suppose to run any gpu very well. Also buy an AM3+ board wither you decide on an Athlon or a Phenom.
July 1, 2012 9:54:17 AM

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I would spend the extra money on a Phenom II, I run an x4 945 and with a little OCing it's suppose to run any gpu very well. Also buy an AM3+ board wither you decide on an Athlon or a Phenom.

I checked Phenom ii x4 945 and it's cool, i agree with you, thanks.
So now i ask the forum now about Phenom II X4 945.
July 1, 2012 9:56:51 AM

Hi guys,
i'm planning to buy new cpu and i found AMD Phenom II X4 945 and i don't know i it's worth buying... Wanted to ask what you think about it. I need a processor for gaming (Battlefield 3, Arkham City, Crysis 2, Shogun 2), for 3ds Max and 1080p movies in Splash Pro. PLeaseee help.

My specs:
-Dual Core e5200,
-2x4gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz,
-asus p5g41t-m lx3,
-500gb seagate,
-Radeon HD 6770.
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July 1, 2012 10:14:08 AM

Only if your on a low budget and your getting that chip for less than $100.

I highly recommend your get yourself a LGA 1155 based Core i3 2100 or 2120. These are much faster than any AMD cpu for gaming, and also consume only half the power that the Phenom x4 does :) 
Also gives you a much better upgrade path in the future:) 
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July 1, 2012 10:45:44 AM

Your on a socket 775 intel board. You can not put that CPU on it. You could go for a Core2 Quad CPU. But it would make more sense and be better in the long run to get a new motherboard + CPU combo.
July 1, 2012 1:49:39 PM

whatsthatnoise said:
Your on a socket 775 intel board. You can not put that CPU on it. You could go for a Core2 Quad CPU. But it would make more sense and be better in the long run to get a new motherboard + CPU combo.

Ha!
Very funny :)  Im a professional 3d artist and i know sth about computers... of course i have to change my mobo (in this case it would be mobo with AM3 socket). I didn't mention it because i thought it was obvious...
July 1, 2012 1:53:11 PM

$hawn said:
Only if your on a low budget and your getting that chip for less than $100.

I highly recommend your get yourself a LGA 1155 based Core i3 2100 or 2120. These are much faster than any AMD cpu for gaming, and also consume only half the power that the Phenom x4 does :) 
Also gives you a much better upgrade path in the future:) 

1155 ARE faster but only when it comes to i5 or i7 and they're not that cheap. i3 2100 is weak and surely much slower than one from AMD... I presume you don't know much about IT and you just have one...
July 1, 2012 2:00:03 PM

Alex_L_29 said:
1155 ARE faster but only when it comes to i5 or i7 and they're not that cheap. i3 2100 is weak and surely much slower than one from AMD... I presume you don't know much about IT and you just have one...

Actually at stock speeds the i3's are stronger than the phenoms (Aside from heavily threaded apps and multitasking.) The higher ipc and all around more efficient architecture is to thank for that.....
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July 1, 2012 2:00:38 PM

Dude people ask questions here that are as obviously easy to answer as it possibly can be. They still ask. If you don't provide full info. One can only assume what or what you do not know...

If you know all that, why ask in the first place. Seems like you have your answer already. :p 

Besides, you could still upgrade to a socket 775 Core2 Quad CPU, if you can still find one (there are used ones for around 100$ on amazon.com).
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July 1, 2012 2:02:14 PM

Alex_L_29 said:
1155 ARE faster but only when it comes to i5 or i7 and they're not that cheap. i3 2100 is weak and surely much slower than one from AMD... I presume you don't know much about IT and you just have one...


Nope. This is the 2100 against a 955 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/88?vs=289 The 2100 beats it in most benches and is close in the 3 or 4 others that it doesn't.

If you happen to live near a Microcenter http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml... 2500K for $169.99
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July 1, 2012 2:03:04 PM

whatsthatnoise said:
Besides, you could still upgrade to a socket 775 Core2 Quad CPU, if you can still find one (there are used ones for around 100$ on amazon.com).


That. A Q9650 (the best that board supports) would be a very nice upgrade.
July 1, 2012 4:11:07 PM

DJDeCiBeL said:
That. A Q9650 (the best that board supports) would be a very nice upgrade.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Read, see the opinions. Also if you'd not noticed before i have AMD Graphics card. AMD Card + AMD Processor=full cooperation. I won't buy i3 because i'm from Poland and here they're bloody expensive!
My question:
What is the difference i shall feel after changing my processor from e5220 to this Phenom II??
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July 1, 2012 4:16:38 PM

Alex_L_29 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Read, see the opinions. Also if you'd not noticed before i have AMD Graphics card. AMD Card + AMD Processor=full cooperation. I won't buy i3 because i'm from Poland and here they're bloody expensive!


Full cooperation doesn't even come close to mattering... And a Q9650 would be pretty much as good as a 945.

The 965 BE is the best option, if you REALLY want to change everything over to AMD.
July 1, 2012 4:34:02 PM

Alex_L_29 said:
Hi guys,
i'm planning to buy new cpu and i found AMD Phenom II X4 945 and i don't know i it's worth buying... Wanted to ask what you think about it. I need a processor for gaming (Battlefield 3, Arkham City, Crysis 2, Shogun 2), for 3ds Max and 1080p movies in Splash Pro. PLeaseee help.

My specs:
-Dual Core e5200,
-2x4gb Corsair Vengeance 1600mhz,
-asus p5g41t-m lx3,
-500gb seagate,
-Radeon HD 6770.



Hi Alex_L_29,

Firstly, with your current Graphics Card, you won't be able to Max. out every game at 1080p no matter what processor you put in. Secondly, if you don't want to buy Intel processors, then the FX-4100 will be much better upgrade for you. But, as the new Piledriver CPUs are coming later this year, it will make more sense to wait rather than buying a Bulldozer CPU.

If you're on a tight budget and you don't want to wait, then I think you should get an AMD FX-4100 processor with an ASUS 760G motherboard. This combo will be very cheap and won't bottleneck most of the high to mid range Graphics Cards.

So, save money here and spend more to buy a powerful Graphics Card. This deal will make more sense and will give you an overall powerful system.

Regards,
SmartGeek
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July 1, 2012 5:39:20 PM

Well like i said i run the 945, with the cooler master hyper tx2 cooler (about $25) on the hottest days it'll just barely get above 40C, the only thing i don't like about it is the core clock is a little slow for when i upgrade my gpu, but you can oc these things pretty high I guess (even with a locked multiplier). I would have spent some extra money on a black edition, but i use an AM2+ board and they don't have the right memory controllers.
July 1, 2012 6:25:08 PM

Well, the title said Athlon 2 X3 and now we're discussing the Phenom II X4 945. Not a big deal, but you should change title if it's possible :) 

If you're really about to go with the X4 945 that's a great choice, but it would be cheaper and could give you much better performance going Intel with an i3-2120 and a cheap AsRock/Asus/Gigabyte H61 board. I own this processor with 8 gigs of Geil Enhance ram and it will perform flawlessly with my future 6850.
July 1, 2012 6:42:51 PM

SmartGeek said:
Hi Alex_L_29,

Firstly, with your current Graphics Card, you won't be able to Max. out every game at 1080p no matter what processor you put in. Secondly, if you don't want to buy Intel processors, then the FX-4100 will be much better upgrade for you. But, as the new Piledriver CPUs are coming later this year, it will make more sense to wait rather than buying a Bulldozer CPU.

If you're on a tight budget and you don't want to wait, then I think you should get an AMD FX-4100 processor with an ASUS 760G motherboard. This combo will be very cheap and won't bottleneck most of the high to mid range Graphics Cards.

So, save money here and spend more to buy a powerful Graphics Card. This deal will make more sense and will give you an overall powerful system.

Regards,
SmartGeek

Whoa! Are you kidding me?! Radeon HD 6770 is strong like hell and ******* good (i get 7.5/7.9 in windows rating - checked 2day)
July 1, 2012 6:43:44 PM

And 1 more thing;
Phenom ii x4 945 vs 965 BE ????
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July 1, 2012 6:47:07 PM

Alex_L_29 said:
And 1 more thing;
Phenom ii x4 945 vs 965 BE ????


Yes, a Phenom II X4 965 BE so you can OC it. You can't easily OC a 945.
July 1, 2012 7:21:24 PM

Alex_L_29 said:
Whoa! Are you kidding me?! Radeon HD 6770 is strong like hell and ******* good (i get 7.5/7.9 in windows rating - checked 2day)

Now I'm not sure if you are just trolling or really that uneducated on the subject of computer hardware.

The people here are giving you viable information. If you don't want suggestions, then why bother asking.
July 1, 2012 7:57:47 PM

zooted said:
Now I'm not sure if you are just trolling or really that uneducated on the subject of computer hardware.

The people here are giving you viable information. If you don't want suggestions, then why bother asking.

I'm a professional 3d artist and i won't fight with you now cause i simply have no time for people like you. And if you believe that Radeon HD 6770 is not a strong GC than, well...maybe you should stop talking about I.T. :sarcastic:  " people here are giving you viable information" - correct (i'll ignore voc. mistake)! But you're not 1 of those people so please don't "help me" anymore.
ps. Thank you DJDeCiBeL :) 
July 1, 2012 8:09:38 PM

Alex_L_29 said:
I'm a professional 3d artist and i won't fight with you now cause i simply have no time for people like you. And if you believe that Radeon HD 6770 is not a strong GC than, well...maybe you should stop talking about I.T. :sarcastic:  " people here are giving you viable information" - correct (i'll ignore voc. mistake)! But you're not 1 of those people so please don't "help me" anymore.
ps. Thank you DJDeCiBeL :) 


Ultimate Trolling? The 6770 is a $80 low-end GPU that definitely isn't "strong". If you want to build a gaming pc, a 6850 or 7770 is the absolute minimum.
July 1, 2012 8:12:13 PM

Nothing much to tell about the 945. Its the same proc as the Athlon just with an L3 cache and an extra core. Its has a locked multiplier so you wont be able to overclock quite as well as a Black Edition so if you were looking to do some heavy overclocking, you might want to try something else.

I dont care for the i3's that much for the reason you cant overclock them at all. If youre not interested in OC'ing then thats not a big deal but I love overclocking and preach its virtues all the time. Its a lot of free performance to be leaving on the table.
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July 1, 2012 8:14:27 PM

lorgoyf said:
Ultimate Trolling? The 6770 is a $80 low-end GPU that definitely isn't "strong". If you want to build a gaming pc, a 6850 or 7770 is the absolute minimum.


For what it's worth, I actually agree here. A 6770 isn't bottom of the barrel low end, but it's nowhere near great either. My GTX 560 OC would destroy it and it's not a great card either.

I.T. knowledge and experience has nothing to do with it. It's FACT. Take a look here: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...

When you find where the 6770 falls in that lineup, you'll see the light.
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July 1, 2012 8:33:31 PM

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    Thanks guys. found another 1: Phenom ii x 4 965 BE. Personally i think it's a great processor, what about you???
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