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March 18, 2012 12:46:08 AM

Hey.

This is the first time I have ever built my own PC, I'm not very tech savvy and I've always bought pre-built system without even knowing what I should be looking for (normally just going for the pc with the highest price), I know, it's stupid, my friends have always been advising me to build my own PC, saying that it is a hell of a lot cheaper and obviously you can get the exactly parts that you want. So I decided this time that I'll go ahead and build my own, while having no clue on how and not having a clue what parts I should be looking for. After about 2-3 weeks of research I have finally drawn up a list of the parts that I THINK would be able to run BF3 and similar games at above 60 FPS. It is an absolute MUST that for me to be running BF3 above 60 FPS as I will be buying a 120hz monitor. I'll post my build down below with EVERYTHING including Monitors, keyboard, mice and so forth... I would like to know what you guys think about my build and if it would run smooth as a peach with both of the monitors (1 monitor for gaming and the other for browsing the web, watching films etc..). I will provide a link to the website I am buying it from and the price of the items. If you guys can clarify that my build is all good to go, it would be much appreciated. Also if you would like to recommend or point out if there are better parts at similar or maybe even at a slightly higher price (money is not really an object right now) that would be more efficient with my build then please do tell. :) 

Motherboard
Gigabyte G1 Sniper, Socket 1366
£137
http://www.morecomputers.com/extra.asp?pn=GA-X58-G1-SNI...


Processor
Intel Core i7 960 3.2 GHz, Socket 1366, 8MB L3 Cache
£235
http://www.ebuyer.com/197578-intel-core-i7-960-3-2-ghz-...


Desktop Case
Coolermaster Storm Trooper
£118
http://www.ebuyer.com/288862-cm-storm-trooper-case-sgc-...


DVD Drive
LiteOn iHAS124 24x DVD±RW DL & RAM SATA Optical Drive
£15
http://www.ebuyer.com/176026-liteon-ihas124-19-24x-dvd-...


Graphics Card
XFX Black Edition AMD Radeon HD 7970 3G
£444
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-xfx-radeon-hd-7970-b...


RAM
Corsair Dominator GT Memory Kit 12GB (3x4GB) DDR3 PC3-16000 2000MHz 240Pin DIMM
£152
http://www.cclonline.com/product/43401/CMT12GX3M3A2000C...


Power Supply Unit
Coolermaster Silent Pro Gold 1200W Modular
£150
http://www.ebuyer.com/235557-coolermaster-silent-pro-go...


Wi-Fi Card
D-Link Xtreme N PCI Express Desktop Adapter DWA-556
£62
http://www.ebuyer.com/137542-d-link-xtreme-n-pci-expres...


Hybrid Solid State Drive
Seagate 750GB Momentus XT 2.5" Hybrid SSD/HDD, SATA-III 7200RPM 32MB Cache
£149
http://www.ebuyer.com/321969-momentus-xt-750gb-sata-2-5...


Gaming Mouse Mat
Team Liquid Mouse Mat
£18
http://www.teamliquid.net/store/mousemat


Gaming Mouse
Cyborg R.A.T 9, 5600 DPI
£82
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saitek-Cyborg-R-A-T-9-Rat-560...


Gaming Keyboard
Razer Lycosa
£60
http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/prod...


Gaming Monitor
BenQ XL2420T LED
£315
http://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-XL2420T-Widescreen-Multime...


General Monitor
Acer S243H 24 Inch Widescreen LED LCD
£248
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/12927921/Acer-S243H-24-in...


Total -- £2035

I would also appreciate if you guys could go easy on me with the tech language as I am a complete newbie when it comes to the this.

Cheers.

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March 18, 2012 1:06:56 AM

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know, it's stupid, my friends have always been advising me to build my own PC, saying that it is a hell of a lot cheaper and obviously you can get the exactly parts that you want. So I decided this time that I'll go ahead and build my own, while having no clue on how and not having a clue what parts I should be looking for.


That actually is a pretty decent build to start with, but I'd completely scrap the idea of 1366 as it's two generations old and way out of date. You want Sandy Bridge right now - it's the reigning champ of CPUs.

You also don't need the dedicated gaming monitor - anyone that makes one is just marketing noise, there's no difference between the two unless you're going for a higher refresh rate or a slightly better resolution. You also don't need the gaming mouse mat either - that's a waste as mouse pads haven't been required since the switch from the trackball to laser tracking. Put that money into the GPU. The GPU and the PSU bar none are the most important parts of any build and you do not want to skimp or compromise if you can possibly help it.

The Momentus is an OK pick but not for a desktop - it's meant for laptops where you don't have the option for secondary storage and need a performance boost. You want a dedicated SSD and a secondary mechanical HD - that will give you the best performance. I also don't recommend expensive peripherals as you can always get those later - put that in the GPU and PSU.

Here's what I would recommend for a build of your budget:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - £87.00
PSU: Seasonic X1000 Gold - £218.52
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P - £119.62
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500K - £166.98
Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 - £66.29
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 1600MHz 1.5V - £39.36
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - £119.94
HD: 2TB Samsung Ecogreen F4 - £89.04
Optical: LG Blu Ray Burner - £61.86
Video Card: 2 x Power Color Radeon HD 7950 3GB - £695.50
Monitor: Viewsonic 24" VX2439 - £119.94

Total: £1,833.58

Use the difference for a 7 Home Premium license and whatever peripherals you want. I cannot stress enough how important your PSU and GPU choices are - and you do not want to skimp or compromise in these areas if you can help it. I generally don't recommend peripherals because a lot of that is personal preference and you can't really judge how a keyboard or mouse feels to you on an online site - you need to go see them in person.
March 18, 2012 6:08:38 AM

Thanks for the reply.

I've took some of what you said into consideration after doing a little bit of research on what you have recommended. I have decided to go with the i5, HDD and SSD, Seasonic 1000W Platinum rather than the gold you that you mentioned(it was a similar price and is a better PSU), the motherboard and finally the RAM.

Personally I would not even use the Blu Ray optical drive so that would be waste of money for me. It also is a must that I have 2 Monitors, so getting 2 GPU's would be out of the question because by then I would be going over 2.2k which would be a no go for me. I know I said money wasn't an object but it is to some extent, I don't want to go absolutely crazy on the price. When I was looking up the RAM you suggested, I found out that because the heatsinks are so large I wouldn't be able to fit a large cooler and I don't think I would need a cooler if I am only using 1 GPU. Also I know that the mouse pad isn't necessary, it's completely personal preference for me, I honestly can't play without one. :) 

I'll re-post everything I have decided to go with to see if you think of it all.

Cheers.
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March 18, 2012 6:33:02 AM

You do not need 1000W of power to run a 7970 in CF. 850W is just fine, even with OCing.
March 18, 2012 6:54:23 AM

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P Z68 - £120
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K - £153
Case: Coolermaster Storm Trooper - £118
Optical Drive: LiteOn iHAS124 - £15
Graphics Card: XFX AMD Radeon HD 7970 3G - £444
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 12GB - £60
PSU: Seasonic 1000W Platinum-1000 - £213
Wi-Fi Card: D-Link Xtreme - £62
SSD: OCZ Octane 128GB - £133
HDD: Samsung F4 EcoGreen 2TB - £97
Mouse Mat: Team Liquid Mat - £18
Mouse: Cyborg R.A.T 9 - £82
Keyboard: Razer Lycosa - £60
Gaming Monitor: BenQ XL2420T - £315
General Monitor: Acer S243H - £203

Total: £2093
March 18, 2012 6:56:48 AM

Better to not buy for the future? :) 
March 18, 2012 7:05:12 AM

GPUs will be decreasing in power requirements for years to come, so no, it is not necessary to buy a 1000W PSU for the future, unless you go NVIDIA or run tri-Crossfire.
March 18, 2012 7:14:23 AM

I'll take what you said into consideration. :) 
March 18, 2012 7:14:57 AM

Just a re-post of everything so far but with links. :) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P Z68 - £120
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K - £153
Case: Coolermaster Storm Trooper - £118
Optical Drive: LiteOn iHAS124 - £15
Graphics Card: XFX AMD Radeon HD 7970 3G - £444
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 12GB - £60
PSU: Seasonic 1000W Platinum-1000 - £213
Wi-Fi Card: D-Link Xtreme - £62
SSD: OCZ Octane 128GB - £133
HDD: Samsung F4 EcoGreen 2TB - £97
Gaming Monitor: BenQ XL2420T - £315
General Monitor: Acer S243H - £203

Total: £2093
March 18, 2012 7:18:28 AM

The PSU is the only thing I think is way too overkill for the future. Otherwise, everything else is perfect.
March 18, 2012 7:28:01 AM

Thanks for the info, I'll keep that in mind.

Do you think I would be able to run BF3 on Ultra settings and be pulling over 60 FPS consistently with this rig?
March 18, 2012 7:28:44 AM

Keep in mind that I will be using fraps nearly all of the time. Something I forgot to mention, sorry about that.
March 18, 2012 8:36:39 AM

Get an OCZ agility or vertex as they run on SATA iii and have faster read speeds.
PSU is definitely overkill.
maybe get an aftermarket CPU cooler if you plan on overclocking, Arctic freezer pro 7 rev.2 (or something like that) is a good value one.
March 18, 2012 9:50:23 AM

I originally thought that the Agility or the Vertex would cost too much, but having a second look the prices aren't actually too bad. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the Vertex suppose to be that little bit faster?

Isn't there a way to increase the gb's on you're SSD through a HDD? Or something like that, I can't remember where I read this, not sure if I'm just chatting rubbish but if there's a way then let me know please. :) 

Thanks for the advice.
March 18, 2012 4:44:12 PM

I wouldn't think so but, you can install the OS on the SSD for fast boot times and just store all your data on the HDD.

Maybe your thinking of RAID?
March 18, 2012 4:47:43 PM

I have no idea mvee, I don't even know what RAID is. I'm a complete newb mate. :D 
March 18, 2012 4:53:45 PM

In fact, thinking back now, I remember it being some sort of adapter type thingy that takes some memory of you're HDD and adds it to you're SSD.
March 18, 2012 5:07:28 PM

-Blackout- said:
Just a re-post of everything so far but with links. :) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P Z68 - £120
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K - £153
Case: Coolermaster Storm Trooper - £118
Optical Drive: LiteOn iHAS124 - £15
Graphics Card: XFX AMD Radeon HD 7970 3G - £444
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 12GB - £60
PSU: Seasonic 1000W Platinum-1000 - £213
Wi-Fi Card: D-Link Xtreme - £62
SSD: OCZ Octane 128GB - £133
HDD: Samsung F4 EcoGreen 2TB - £97
Gaming Monitor: BenQ XL2420T - £315
General Monitor: Acer S243H - £203

Total: £2093


great choice but-
get dual channel 8gb ram,something like this-
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengea...
psu is a great overkill.HX850w is more than enough including overclocks-
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/850w-psu-corsair-hx-cmps...
i would say stay away from OCZ ssds.crucial m4 128gb is way better.it may be a bit slower than others(it's almost unnoticeable LOL)but cheaper and most reliable ssd IMO-
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/128gb-crucial-realssd-m4...
other things are good.especially monitors :ange: 
March 18, 2012 5:38:35 PM

Yeah, I realise that 1000W is overkill now, I'll be getting an 850W instead. Also could you explain to me why you recommend that RAM over the RAM g-unit111 recommended, I'm curious. :) 

I've been looking at reviews where they are comparing SSD's and the Vertex and Agility blows everything else out of the water, so I have decided to go with a Vertex, it's pretty pricey but it's still within my budget of £2,200.

Thanks for the advice.
March 18, 2012 5:49:26 PM

-Blackout- said:
Thanks for the reply.

I've took some of what you said into consideration after doing a little bit of research on what you have recommended. I have decided to go with the i5, HDD and SSD, Seasonic 1000W Platinum rather than the gold you that you mentioned(it was a similar price and is a better PSU), the motherboard and finally the RAM.

Personally I would not even use the Blu Ray optical drive so that would be waste of money for me. It also is a must that I have 2 Monitors, so getting 2 GPU's would be out of the question because by then I would be going over 2.2k which would be a no go for me. I know I said money wasn't an object but it is to some extent, I don't want to go absolutely crazy on the price. When I was looking up the RAM you suggested, I found out that because the heatsinks are so large I wouldn't be able to fit a large cooler and I don't think I would need a cooler if I am only using 1 GPU. Also I know that the mouse pad isn't necessary, it's completely personal preference for me, I honestly can't play without one. :) 

I'll re-post everything I have decided to go with to see if you think of it all.

Cheers.


That's a lot better. Having a cooler doesn't have anything to do with the number of GPUs you use - it's more if you plan to overclock or not. If you want to overclock it's an absolute must - if you don't you can run it without one and run it off the stock cooler.

The mouse mat is a complete waste of money - I haven't used one in years since they were required. Now that they're not - it's something I don't recommend on any build.

Quote:
Yeah, I realise that 1000W is overkill now, I'll be getting an 850W instead. Also could you explain to me why you recommend that RAM over the RAM g-unit111 recommended, I'm curious. :) 


It's actually the same RAM - I don't know why that was recommended any differently.

I only recommended a 1K watt PSU because that's usually what my PSU wattage calculator suggests if you're going for more than one GPU - especially one of that quality. But don't get 12GB - that's a triple channel X58 configuration. You need 8 or 16 to get the proper functionality of it.
March 18, 2012 5:56:42 PM

I'll re-post my everything again, I'm pretty much set on buying everything here unless you guys want to advise me otherwise. :) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P Z68 - £120
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500K - £153
Case: Coolermaster Storm Trooper - £118
Optical Drive: LiteOn iHAS124 - £15
Graphics Card: XFX AMD Radeon HD 7970 3G - £444
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 12GB - £60
PSU: Seasonic Platinum 860W - £189
Wi-Fi Card: D-Link Xtreme - £62
SSD: OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS Edition - £316
HDD: Samsung F4 EcoGreen 2TB - £97
Gaming Monitor: BenQ XL2420T - £315
General Monitor: Acer S243H - £203
March 18, 2012 6:03:57 PM

g-unit1111 said:

It's actually the same RAM - I don't know why that was recommended any differently.


i didn't checked your link LOL my bad.
March 18, 2012 6:05:03 PM

On the ram you want to get dimms in quantities of 2, like 8 gigs (2x4), 16 gig (2X8, or 4x4gig). You want to set them up in pairs of two for the proc, and chipset. They function on dual channel. At least that is the way I understand it :)  Also I wouldn't recomend going over 8 gigs, you won't even use it to my knowledge. I have a 2600K oc'ed to 4.6 and I rarely see the meter hit 40% on my 8 gigs of 1600 ram.
March 18, 2012 6:11:14 PM

Ah, yeah sorry about that, I got mixed up with the RAM, my bad.

I don't plan on overclocking atm (mainly because I have no idea how to overclock :D ) so there would be no point in purchasing a cooler right now.

As I said before, the mouse mat is a personal thing for me, I like having a mouse mat so I don't mind spending £20 to get a cool and quality mat since I have had a grubby old Alienware mat for a good while, I think it's about time I get a new one. :) 

Also, what do you think about the SSD, should I get a OCZ Vertex 3 120gb or 240gb? It's pretty expensive but I've seen reviews comparing them to most of the SSD's out there and this one absolutely topples all the other SSD's besides the OCZ Agility. Or do you think I should spend my money elsewhere?
March 18, 2012 6:14:15 PM

Hey blackout! I know this thread is pretty well off but I figured I'd throw my voice in there as well.

First off I will say you did an excellent job picking your main components. With the refinement of your build (swapping X58 for Z68, etc) it's getting better each revision.
-I don't like the "gaming monitor" idea. A 3ms difference is barely noticeable, not worth spending £100 on. For that price, you could get a 120hz monitor which will provide a MUCH bigger visual difference. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-GD245HQ-monitor-DVI-D-1920...
-I'd grab this AX850 and save a chunk of change: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMPSU-850AXUK-Professio... Just as high quality.
-You'll want 8GB or 16GB of RAM, as the others say. Make sure it's 1.5v
-A 120GB SSD wouldn't be a bad idea, save some cash there. It's half the size but with clever game management and use of tools like Steam Mover you could EASILY make it work.

With the money saved, 7870 crossfire would be an excellent option.

Don't take this as criticism, we are just trying to get you the most kick-ass for the least cost.
March 18, 2012 6:16:08 PM

Thanks for the info on the RAM Lokordd, I had no idea. How come you guys are recommending me the Vengeance RAM though, I thought the Corsair Dominator GT's where suppose to be the shizzle for gaming? I could be completely wrong but I'm just going of what my friends and reviews have told me.
March 18, 2012 6:27:51 PM

I have never benchmarked any memory but it is my understanding that as long as you get a good brand of memory its pretty much all the same. 8 gigs of good ram will do you just fine, you will probably never notice any difference. And on the SSD, it's a personal preference. Do you have the cash? Are you cool with throwing some games on your mech. HD? Would you rather take the 100-150 bucks and put it in your pocket? Or do you want all your games on the speedy SSD and saving a second or two is worth it?
March 18, 2012 6:29:58 PM

Hey striker, thanks for you're post and don't worry mate, I am most definitely not taking you guys advice as criticism, I greatly appreciate you guys helping me out here! :D  Also thanks for saying I've done an excellent job, about 2 weeks ago I didn't even know what an SSD was haha. But honestly this build would be no where near as good if it wasn't for you're guys help. I thought getting the all of the specs together would be an absolute pain in the ass and it is to some extent but I'm actually thoroughly enjoying it too!

Btw that Gaming Monitor, the BenQ XL2420T, it is a 120hz Monitor. :) 
I'll take the AX850 into consideration aswell, I like to do my own bit of digging on what you guys recommend to me first.
March 18, 2012 6:45:23 PM

Honestly Lokordd, I'd rather have that money in my machine, I'm just wondering if I would be better of putting towards a better GPU. The main games I'll be playing will be: Diablo 3, Guild Wars 2, Battlefield 3 and Hawken. Whether 120GB would be enough to fit all them games on, Idk. What do you think?
March 18, 2012 6:53:30 PM

if that's the matter than your better option is to but a small SSD for OS.60~64gb is enough.
March 18, 2012 7:43:42 PM

You think 64gb would be enough for them 4 games? Idk man, I would of thought that GW2 on it's own would be around 40gb.
March 18, 2012 8:11:16 PM

Blackout the ssd isn't for games. It's for windows, and its updates. That way your computer can access the information it needs to keep itself running faster.
March 18, 2012 8:30:54 PM

Oh. My friend told me that it is a must for gaming and that I should move all of my games to the SSD. Confused.com
March 18, 2012 8:39:34 PM

I was under the impression that OCZ SSDs were to be avoided for reliabilkity issues. The Intel 520s, Samsung 830, and Crucial m4 would be ideal.
March 18, 2012 8:57:38 PM

Hey Kenny.

Actually, waiting is exactly what I will be doing anyway, I'm going away in 2 weeks for 2 weeks and it's unlikely that I'll get all the parts before I leave for Australia. :D 

The thing is, with this realise of Nvidia's new cards and a new processor, would this mean that the older products would be drastically reduced in price?

Also, I think I will most likely go with the 240gb just to be safe.

Thanks for the reply it means a lot! :) 
March 18, 2012 8:59:44 PM

Rebelx, Idk how reliable they are but as long as they have a good warranty then I'm sure it won't be a problem.
March 19, 2012 12:10:32 AM

-Blackout- said:
Rebelx, Idk how reliable they are but as long as they have a good warranty then I'm sure it won't be a problem.

About three years ago, OCZ released a batch of SSD's using 25nm NAND. Little did they know, 25nm NAND sucked. The drives were failing left and right.

Now however, they are using the safer 28nm and 34nm, which are FAR more reliable. The OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS uses Toshiba OnFI toggle NAND, which is some of the most high quality and fastest memory available. Indeed, OCZ and Intel use the same stuff. The new Intel 520 drives are functionally identical to a Vertex 3, now that they both have the SF-2281 controller. That said a Samsung 830 wouldn't be a bad option either, not at all. I'd prefer the 830, actually.

I think games should be put on the SSD. coming from someone with a hard drive but has friends with an SSD, I can say they load in on average 10-15 seconds faster than me.

I would wait and see what Kepler is bringing to the table. Not so with Ivy Bridge, since performance is negligible, it's about power consumption really.
March 19, 2012 7:43:02 AM

Isn't the power consumption irrelevant as long as I have a high Watt PSU?
March 19, 2012 7:52:55 AM

Woah! I had a look at the leaked specs for the Kelper here on Tom's hardware and apparently they think it will be under $500 O.O

Yeah... I think I'll wait lol.

Thanks for all the advice guys, just gotta wait for the Kelper and I'm good to go! :D 
March 19, 2012 12:56:19 PM

Sure, if I knew how to give you the Best Answer, I would, but I don't know how so, sorry. xD
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