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March 18, 2012 12:59:18 PM

Hi, I am trying to build a new PC for the first time and have decided on few components but am not sure about few others, so please help me choose the right ones.

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate Professional 64 bit

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k

Monitor: Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

HDD : Will be using my old one for now, but am planning on buying 6gbs/s sata III in few months.

Graphic Card : For now not planning to buy any, but in near future will go for an higher end one.

System Usage : It will double up as my Work computer running Photoshop,Illustrator,3DSMax, visual studio, Apache webserver, mysql server and similar apps, all latest versions, and as a gaming computer, though I am not considering a graphic card at the moment. Most of the time I will be multitasking.

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: No

USB 3.0 : Yes

Choosing between :

Mobo : MSI Z68A-G45(B3) and Asus P8Z68-M-PRO

RAM : G.Skill RipjawsX or G.skill Sniper or Corsair Vengeance (all 2x4GB or 4x4GB depending on the cost back here in India)

PSU : Seasonic 520W Power Supply (S12II-520) or Seasonic 620W Power Supply (S12II-620)

Cabinet : NZXT Gamma Black Steel Mid-Tower ATX Cabinet or Cooler Master 690 II Basic (RC-692B)

It would be much helpful if you let me know why you chose what you chose. My knowledge about computers is almost zero and the pc will be assembled by some assembler. I would like to save if the difference in performance is not significant.

Thanks a lot

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March 18, 2012 1:34:55 PM
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1) Both mobos are good but I went with the ASUS as they seemed to get slightly better customer satisfaction ratings at most of the sites I researched.
2) If you get RAM with those long fins you may have clearance issues with your aftermarket CPU heat sink (which you need to add to your list if you OC much past 4.0. The Hyper 212 is a popular choice). The Corsair Vengeance low profile is what I went with for that reason, and it barely clears the Hyper 212 if I use the first RAM slot on my mobo. The fins do nothing for 99.9% of users.
3) If you're overclocking, run more than 1 HDD, and add a video card later, don't skimp on your PSU. Go with the best one you can afford with the most amps at 12v and the highest wattage. You don't want to run your PSU at the top of its efficiency range. Seasonic is a good brand, I'd go with the 620w. Note that the one you linked has 1x 6/2 pin and 1x 6 pin. It is possible the video card you want may require 2x 6/2 pin but that would be one power hungry card. The corsair listed in my sig has 2x 6/2 pin, and is modular, and has a few more watts (of course its about $10-$15 more too). Modular is very handy for a clean case.
4) Don't worry about a 6gbs HDD, they aren't any faster than the 3. Now if you decide to go Solid State drive, you will see benefit in the 6.
5) Neither mobo will support a PCIE 3 video card, and most of the newer ones coming out will be PCIE 3. Nor will either mobo support the new CPUs coming out. Check my sig for a mobo that has both of those features. Might be worth the money if those factors concern you.
6) The MSI is an ATX size and the ASUS is a micro. If the case you select supports only micro, a regular size mobo won't fit it. However if you choose a regular size form factor case, it will accept either sized mobo. Both cases you chose look good for cooling and space to work in. A micro mobo will give you less room to install things with.

Good luck with your build and have fun!
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March 19, 2012 6:56:26 AM

Hey thanks catatafish, now it all makes more sense :) 
thanks jgutz2006 for the options, the ocz isn't available here but cm one seems good.

So few more questions :
1. Is there any difference in performance between RipjawsX and Vengence ?
2. Coolermaster 650w 80Plus Cert has 2x 6/2 pin ?(pci-e 6+2 is same as 6/2 ?) And yeah Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W Power Supply (CMPSU-650TXV2) too ? which one is better including Seasonic 650W? I couldn't find, so which one is modular out of CM and Corsair ?
3. Is micro ATX mobo is better or ATX mobo ?
March 19, 2012 10:42:17 AM

1) None really, they are both highly regarded brands. And most likely 2x4 is going to be plenty of RAM. I've got 8gb total and I've never seen my memory use go over 55% on my memory meter widget.
2) Yes, its a 6pin and it has a little buddy 2 pin attached to it going to the same power cord. Corsair and Seasonic are both relatively equal. The Corsair is modular, but a few extra bucks. Actually the Corsair I'm showing is partially modular. You will use all of the wires that are not modular, and it leaves the PCIE connections modular as well as two slots for other connections.
3) No, just smaller. So if you think smaller is better, then its better :) . People that have dual graphic cards wouldn't want a micro because its more likely that the slots will be closer together and dual video cards means heat issues so you want them as far apart as possible.

March 19, 2012 12:18:38 PM

since you said you aren't going to sli/crossfire... i will suggest you to build a micro-atx desktop because not only it has smaller footprint.... but it is also easier to move around and store where space is limited... plus nowadays build quality and performance of micro-atx desktop has improved much further compared to the past....

cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Core i5-2500K - $220

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z/GEN3 - $190

ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 - $50

hsf: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR CAFA70 - $28 after rebate

odd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
LG DVD Burner 24X GH24NS70 - $17

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Plextor M3 Series PX-128M3 2.5" 128GB - $195

psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ ZT Series 650W Fully-Modular - $80 after rebate

case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SILVERSTONE Temjin Series TJ08B-E - $91

fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER R4-BMBS-20PK-R0 Blade Master 120mm - $12

gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 - $295 after rebate


total: $1178 after rebate excluding shipping....

also... there is a upcoming geforce gtx 680 review here....

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl...

good things comes at small package... remember... this build is for people who they know what they do with their pc(such as expansion... etc...) otherwise... an normal size atx build would be better as it has room for expansion...

March 19, 2012 3:46:56 PM

catatafish, I am a little confused, I couldn't find "Corsair TXM V2 650W 80+" from your sig anywhere, what I found was "Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W Power Supply (CMPSU-650TXV2)" so are they same ?? If they are, then is it semi-modular (I couldn't find any mention to that anywhere :(  ) and if not, then I have found an another PSU "Seasonic 750W Power Supply (SS-750JS)" it too has 2x6+2 pins and is priced lower then "Corsair TX650 V2" (in India), now what's happening ? Which should I go with now ?

Secondly, I hope you didn't confused "MSI Z68A-G45(B3)" in my original post with "MSI Z68A-GD55" since second one is priced same as the Asus one from my original post and the first one is priced a little low (about $30 low in indian currency).

phenom90, hey thanks for the suggestions, but I have decided on most of the components :)  and I can't handle any more research anyway :p 
March 29, 2012 12:12:30 AM

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