Unfortunately, I am not a nuts and bolts computer person. I have scoured the internet for a solution, but have not been able to get (or interpret) a good answer for me.
Problem: Running WoW and SWTOR with terrible frame rates
Have installed Advanced System Care (ASC) and it has made a fairly significant difference, but still not good.
Prior to ASC - 14-19 FPS, latency good at approx 50 ms, often get 1-6 during raids, etc.
After ASC - 25-30 FPS, latency good at approx 50 ms, however, still often get FPS of 1-6 during raids, etc.
Prior to ASC - 1-5 FPS, latency good at approx 52 ms
After ASC - 10-15 FPS, latency good at approx 52 ms
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 650 Processor, 3200 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
8 GB RAM
ATI Radeon HS 4200
One digital flat panel 1920x1080 (game display) max refresh rate 75
One VGA monitor 1024x768 (vent, etc. display) max refresh rate 75 (this is an OLD monitor)
Hard Disk space 920 GB, 745 GB free
This is a new computer (purchased Oct 2011, orig build Apr 2011). I am willing to upgrade parts, but I don't know what parts need to be upgraded (CPU, GPU, other??).
I would really appreciate any help you can provide.
You need a video card. (and possibly a new CPU but one step at a time.) The onboard 4200 isn't strong enough to handle games at 1080. (much less with good details and a second monitor attached as well.) You shouldn't need a monster card for MMOs, something like a 5770 or GTX550 should be fine. You can buy a monster card like a GTX570 or 6950 if you want, it won't hurt. A problem will be your lower end x4 holding cards like that back some, and MMOs tend to want a lot of CPU power to handle all the units and what they are doing in game.
The Athlon IIx4 is a pretty good cpu, that is not the problem.The ati 4200 is a low power gpu. It is intended for basic productivty such as office and internet. It does not have the power to run games.
A video card upgrade can be cheap and easy. Whats the budget and exact make and model of the PC.
just looking at the specs of that PC, and it only has a 250watt PSU. That is not really a problem because the ahtlons are pretty miserly on power usage, however that limits the GPU upgrade choices a bit. (Unless you are willing to upgrade the PSU as well).
The 6770 i posted above is a 100watt part. I would not recomend higher than that with out a new PSU to go with it.
As far as frame rates I would expect a 500% in provement. So if your getting 20 on low I would think around 100 without changing the detail levels. Or you crank up the detail and play at around 40 FPS.
That would open the door to any sub $300 video card. Based on your system budget and games noted I would go with the 6770 listed or maybe a 6850 or 6870.
6870 is 160 that puts you at 220 with the PSU, so it blows the budget.
But the problem doesnt seem enough to make you play so low fps, so its the card you are using.
December 6, 2010 by Chris Angelini: "Could it be a problem with Nvidia's GPU? We dropped a Radeon HD 5870 in with our Phenom II flagship to check and came up with 59.19 FPS in the same test (a mere 1.31 FPS difference). Clearly, AMD's CPUs are holding back performance in Cataclysm compared to Intel's processors."
The HP desktop mid-towers will handle a standard PSU just dandy. There is also a little hiding place above the card reader for a few wild cables.
I wouldn't go crazy expensive but the OP could snag the OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular for $50 after rebate.
As far as the video card, waiting is good. In the next month or so I betcha there will be some really nice video cards for $120 or so (HD6870s ??) -- I think the real question is if the 7xxx cards can drive something like a HD69501GB down to the $150-range. That'd be da sheet.
Hey folks, I went with Buckynutty's suggestions. I am starting with replacing the power supply first. The size is just fine, but I am having some installation issues. Unfortunately, there are no installation instructions. I am used to installing new components and I am pretty sure that I have all the cords installed properly, but when I turn on the computer, the fans are not running. The green light on the motherboard lights up, though.
I have the 4-prong MB connector exactly where the only one was. The old cords had a 20 prong connector, but there are enough slots for the 24-prong, so I connected the 24. I have one connector attached to the hard drive and one to the DVD drive. Those were the only things connected previously. Anyone have any suggestions about what I am missing?
Oh, I should note that the old cords did not have an orange wire, but the new ones do. One of the connectors does have a plug where the orange wire is, in case I should not be using it for one of the connections.
The power wire that goes to the wall does not matter.
There should be 5 wires to plug into the comp.
1 Main power 24 pin connector 20+4. This can only go 1 way.
2 Aux power (some times called p4 connector) This can be 1 4pin or 2 4 pins side by side depending on the board. Normally up by the CPU. *My guess is you forgot this connector.
3 HD connector, you need to power the hard drive.
4 DVD connectoer, powers the DVD
5 PCI-e connector (optional Video card connector) only needed if the video card has a power connector.