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Building Gaming PC --- SUPER NOOB.

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March 19, 2012 5:14:26 AM

Hi. I'm super super super new to building computers. I've always wanted to, buuuuuut never have. I'm not looking to buy something MEGA expensive. I've been looking at some things from Newegg, but I'm not actually all that sure WHAT I should be looking for. I'm mostly going to be using this for gaming. SO! Without further adieu:

Approximate Purchase Date:
Don't have a date. I'm just looking right now.

Budget Range:
Less than I'd like 600s - 500s. Maybe less. (Is that even possible?)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Mostly gaming. I'll be using it for other things as well though such as media.

Parts Not Required: Monitor. (Lol.)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Doesn't really matter. I've only looked on Newegg so far.

Country:
USA -- WA.

Parts Preferences:
I don't really have a preference.

Overclocking:
Maybe -- Never done it before.

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe -- Never done it before.

Monitor Resolution: HP 2009m 1600 x 900.

Additional Comments: So far I've looked at only these things. Also, I'm so so sorry if this isn't in the right place.

Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case/ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... OR
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case/ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 960T Zosma 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor 3.1GHz Turbo Boost/ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
- ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard/ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Thanks for any help given!
March 19, 2012 5:50:50 AM

so i threw this list together real quick, i just did a build around this price basically the same build.

CPU: i3-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo: MSI H67 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram: Gskill 8gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: Corsair 500w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: Sapphire 6850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: 500gb WD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: Rosewill challenger http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total is 597 w/o OS, Didn't mention that (assuming you need windows +100$)
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March 19, 2012 6:04:09 AM

Ohmybad said:
so i threw this list together real quick, i just did a build around this price basically the same build.

CPU: i3-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo: MSI H67 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram: Gskill 8gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: Corsair 500w http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU: Sapphire 6850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD: 500gb WD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case: Rosewill challenger http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

total is 597 w/o OS, Didn't mention that (assuming you need windows +100$)



Hey, Ohmybad. You got the same case I'm interested in; is it as small as some of the feedback says? Is that a problem with you?
Also is the i3-2100 CPU better than the AMD Phenom II I posted?

Thank you!
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March 19, 2012 6:18:32 AM

the Phenom II or the i3 will please you in every aspect. Its a mather of i like AMD or i like Intel more. The i3 has a batter /core performance then every AMD but only has 2 physical cores and the AMD has 4. Personaly? i would go with the Phenom II.
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March 19, 2012 6:26:43 AM

crisan_tiberiu said:
the Phenom II or the i3 will please you in every aspect. Its a mather of i like AMD or i like Intel more. The i3 has a batter /core performance then every AMD but only has 2 physical cores and the AMD has 4. Personaly? i would go with the Phenom II.


The Phenom x4 960t is what you want to go with if you choose amd. It is more energy effecient than normal phenoms and overclocks better. The thing that brings it over the top is that you have a very high change of atleast unlocking one of its disable cores. It is originally a 6 core processor but disabled to 4. According to newegg reviews about 66% of them unlocked it to a full fledged 6 core processor. That leaves a very good change of at least unlocking 1 core. But this also adds more responsibilty to your self which the i3 doesn't require since it doesn't overclock well. You need to cool the cpu and the motherboard properly if you plan on doing high frequency overclocks.
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March 19, 2012 6:27:36 AM

If your interested in a 960t build then I will suggest components.
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March 19, 2012 6:32:36 AM

Phyrexiancure said:
If your interested in a 960t build then I will suggest components.


Any suggestions are welcome! :)  Also, thanks for explaining that last part on the i3 vs Phenom II. Would you personally choose the 960T as well?
Whats the difference between the 960T and the 965?
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March 19, 2012 9:08:40 AM

I would choose the 960t over the i3 and the 965. The 965 is easier to overclock for unexperienced overclockers but only has 4 cores and its hotter. the 960t is a disabled 6 core processor that overclockes better and is cooler if you only use 4 cores or about the same with 5 cores on.
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March 19, 2012 8:47:33 PM

Phyrexiancure said:
I would choose the 960t over the i3 and the 965. The 965 is easier to overclock for unexperienced overclockers but only has 4 cores and its hotter. the 960t is a disabled 6 core processor that overclockes better and is cooler if you only use 4 cores or about the same with 5 cores on.


Thank you! Any suggestions for a motherboard?
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March 19, 2012 9:22:59 PM

Don't expect to run crossfire/sli efficiently on it since one pci exp is at 4x instead of 16x or 8x.
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March 19, 2012 9:25:04 PM

Yes, I would also choose that even though I woudn't use it for crossfire or sli since it uses a 4x pci.
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March 19, 2012 9:29:44 PM

Can't you put some more bucks in the budget, like 70-80 more and buy an i5-2400? it is way better than that phenom, its quadcore and you will have more years of guaranteed playability of games than the phenom.
Also, you are on tight budget, meaning that in 1-2 years you really don't want to change the whole setup again but just add a better cpu or better gpu. The sandybridge motherboards guarantee that better than the am3 . With am3 motherboards (and amd) you cant get past bulldozer or the next gen, which are not as good as current i5-2400. The sandybridge mobo (if you selept p67 or z68 chipset) can install even better cpus in 2-3 years meaning your pc will be uptodate with just a small cpu upgrade.
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March 19, 2012 9:43:03 PM

beetlejuicegr said:
Can't you put some more bucks in the budget, like 70-80 more and buy an i5-2400? it is way better than that phenom, its quadcore and you will have more years of guaranteed playability of games than the phenom.
Also, you are on tight budget, meaning that in 1-2 years you really don't want to change the whole setup again but just add a better cpu or better gpu. The sandybridge motherboards guarantee that better than the am3 . With am3 motherboards (and amd) you cant get past bulldozer or the next gen, which are not as good as current i5-2400. The sandybridge mobo (if you selept p67 or z68 chipset) can install even better cpus in 2-3 years meaning your pc will be uptodate with just a small cpu upgrade.


Could you provide links to those motherboards, please? Sorry, not very savvy on this. I'm still new. Haha. :c
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March 19, 2012 9:51:02 PM

I think if he's going to make that leap he should buy a 2500k since the 2400 is crippled at overclocking. The price difference between a 960t and a 2400 aren't worth is in my opinion since you can only overclock it to about 3.6ghz
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March 19, 2012 10:01:01 PM

Phyrexiancure said:
I think if he's going to make that leap he should buy a 2500k since the 2400 is crippled at overclocking. The price difference between a 960t and a 2400 aren't worth is in my opinion since you can only overclock it to about 3.6ghz


I see, so I think I'll stick with the 960t then! How about RAM, PSU, GPU and HDD? Are the ones Ohmybad suggested good?
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March 19, 2012 10:06:53 PM

Yes they are good, though the power supply has a $10 discount that will end today.
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March 19, 2012 10:08:34 PM

I see you already have a monitor. Do you have a computer your replacing? You could save more money by using its dvd drive and hard drive. Also there is no listed dvd drive. Make sure to get one also, which one doesn't really matter since they pretty much all the same.
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March 19, 2012 10:14:40 PM

Phyrexiancure said:
I see you already have a monitor. Do you have a computer your replacing? You could save more money by using its dvd drive and hard drive.


I have the monitor that I got for my PS3. The only computer I have is an old HP that's collecting dust in my closet. Haha.
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March 19, 2012 10:17:44 PM

How old is it? If its from 2006 or beyond it could be useful. What processor logo does it have. If its something like a core 2 duo or a athlon x2 than the parts should be new enough to be compatable.
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March 19, 2012 10:23:25 PM

Phyrexiancure said:
How old is it? If its from 2006 or beyond it could be useful. What processor logo does it have. If its something like a core 2 duo or a athlon x2 than the parts should be new enough to be compatable.


An HP Pavilion a1020n. I've googled it and it seems like it's from 2005.
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March 19, 2012 10:53:34 PM

The hard drive and dvd drive are compatable. That's convenient since hard drive prices are jacked up right now.
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March 19, 2012 10:57:49 PM

Phyrexiancure said:
The hard drive and dvd drive are compatable. That's convenient since hard drive prices are jacked up right now.


Hey! Thanks! That's awesome! You've been a really big help. :D 
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