Is the Thermaltake Tr2 430w good?

You need a new psu, they say it's only 350w because of the amps on the 12v rail. On a single rail psu you take the amps*12 (because theres 12 volts) to find how much power it will actually deliver. When you have two or more rails things get trickier. Either way even 430w is just barely enough,

This one would be great for you:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
but don't be afraid to spend more money on a even bigger one for future upgrades.

Thanks for the quick reply, i was afraid thats what i had to do, im probly going to go with the one you said, it looks good  

if you are self concioused on cost,

the antec vp 450 should fit the need

Yeah that one seems like a pretty reasonable price, but i dont think that it is 80+ effinciency...i'm not really that good with copmuters, will that mean less watts/amps? or just more expensive on the power bill? (im a n00b)  

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
-Bruce

Never mind, the antec vp 450 is 80+ efficiency, it just doesnt say on Newegg. Im going to buy it i think.

they all are 80+, I'm not sure if the vp is or not, normally it should say so on the sticker.

the vp isnt, the vp is a FSP made psu. here would be the review for it

Hows that work out does Antec own FSP or just pay them to build it?

how psu branding works is a company gives off an order to another company to build a psu. then the company who paid for the build brands it in their name. Antec doesnt make any PSU's at all, Neither does Corsair. both of these companies have issued out psus mostly from seasonic, which is why they get praised alot, as seasonic is experienced with this kind of work. other psu makers that the consumer doesnt hear much about is CWT, which they make several of the psus which sit in alot of peoples builds.

For instance, heres Antecs lines of psus. The column that says OEM is the actual manufacture who made the psu, and Antec just has their name on it.


if you are curious on who makes what, realhardtechx has most of the major brands

Ahh i see how it is, besides computers I work on cars and back in the day many car companies did this kind of thing as well. Cool links to bookmarking the last one to keep that in mind when I buy a new psu. (hopefully not for at least 5 years i just bought one for a lot of money.)

I read in the reviews/feedback for the VP 450 on newegg and someone said that it was 80+ efficiency, im not sure if that is true but it seems good, everyone had good things to say about it.... But is it worth buying? it seems like a pretty good deal for 40$, also im not going to be upgrading anything qith my PC besides RAM because my mobo doesnt hav any more gfx card slots.(sorry for all the questions)

*sigh*
Toms June 2011 $500 build
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/diy-gaming-pc,2970....



168 watt AC load running Prime and 3dMark
~85% efficiency http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/psu_reports/ANTEC_EA-3...
143 watt DC load on the dual rail 380 watt psu

430 watts is much more than enough for OP's specs

Also, i just read the review that Dudewitbow suggested and hardware secrets sais that it is actually a 80+ efficiency PSU, but it cant get the sticker and stuff because it doesnt have a PFC circuit.

okay but if it is really only a 350w PSU then that wont be enough, will it?