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Slow performance on X4 955 and GTX 570?

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January 14, 2012 2:44:13 AM

I have upgraded from a 6870 to a GTX 570 from EVGA. The performance in TF2 and garrys mod is slightly higher min but avg is lower then on 6870. on the 955 in TF2 with everything maxed except AA at 4X I get like 66+ but my AVG stays under 100 a lot. In Skyrim on High preset with AA at 4x and AF 4x I get like 32fps low and 61fps max. AVG is in mid 40s. I have latest drivers and power management thing on high performance. Any Idea? I also have my 955 at 3.86GHz which I had not had on when I had my 6870 other then awhile ago. On my 6870 my min was like 60 but my avg was higher then I get on GTX 570. I know it might be a bit of a bottleneck but Dan reports good performance with the same GPU and a 965 @ 3.8Ghz with 4GB of the same ram I have but I have 8GB.

My CPU never goes over 40-41C in game but usually 40C or less and the GPU has never reached over 67C and 45% fan. Any Ideas? Im going to upgrade to the ivy bridge version of the 2500k hopefully if I can get the money but I would like to get better performance in the mean time. I watch vids on YT of 570s with 965s and stuff at stock 3.4Ghz with 4-8GB Ram and they get great performance!
Heres a CPU-z showing my OC
http://valid.canardpc.com/show…..id=2195500

PC specs:
PSU: Corsair HX 750W
Mobo: ASUS M5A99X EVO
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 2.2ghz Overclocked to 3.86 GHz
GPU: EVGA GTX 570 HD
RAM: 8GB GSKILL RIPJAWS 1600 CL9
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January 14, 2012 12:57:28 PM

What resolution?
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January 14, 2012 1:08:03 PM

Your cpu is not the problem. Even at stock speed the 955 would have no trouble keeping up with a single GTX570.
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January 14, 2012 3:23:45 PM

rolli59 said:
What resolution?

1920x1080 at my moms and 1680x1050 at my dads. Both Similar fps. Reason im worried is because it seems low even due to my CPU being a bit slow for my GTX 570 I think. I talked to one of the guys on a PC gaming website I folllow and he says he runs Skyrim at ultra with normally 50+ FPS and sometimes dips a little bit into mid 40s. He also states better performance on TF2 and such. He runs a 965 OC to 3.8Ghz with 4GB GSKILL RIPJAWS and the same GTX 570 as me! I dont get it! In most games my min FPS is slightly higher then with my 6870 but my AVG is usually considerably lower. I am going to be upgrading to Ivy bridge 3550K or whatever the 2500K equivelint is but I should still be getting better performance then this with my 955 by a good amount!
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January 14, 2012 3:24:14 PM

geekapproved said:
Your cpu is not the problem. Even at stock speed the 955 would have no trouble keeping up with a single GTX570.

Any idea then?
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January 14, 2012 3:37:32 PM

wheelzz said:
1920x1080 at my moms and 1680x1050 at my dads. Both Similar fps. Reason im worried is because it seems low even due to my CPU being a bit slow for my GTX 570 I think. I talked to one of the guys on a PC gaming website I folllow and he says he runs Skyrim at ultra with normally 50+ FPS and sometimes dips a little bit into mid 40s. He also states better performance on TF2 and such. He runs a 965 OC to 3.8Ghz with 4GB GSKILL RIPJAWS and the same GTX 570 as me! I dont get it! In most games my min FPS is slightly higher then with my 6870 but my AVG is usually considerably lower. I am going to be upgrading to Ivy bridge 3550K or whatever the 2500K equivelint is but I should still be getting better performance then this with my 955 by a good amount!

You can only compare numbers for one resolution at a time. (yours are a little confusing to read above) That your minimum is higher points to that you indeed have a more powerful card. The average can be affected by for example if vsync is enabled it would cut of higher spikes than your monitor refresh rates.
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January 14, 2012 3:38:06 PM

Might be driver problem. I'd suggest clean windows install, since you switched from AMD/ATI to nVidia..
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January 14, 2012 4:19:02 PM

rolli59 said:
You can only compare numbers for one resolution at a time. (yours are a little confusing to read above) That your minimum is higher points to that you indeed have a more powerful card. The average can be affected by for example if vsync is enabled it would cut of higher spikes than your monitor refresh rates.

sorry. I was not really talking about a specific resolution. Though most of the tests where done on 1080P the 1680x1050 FPS is similar. I was not running V sync and I was running the same settings in game as on my 6870.
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January 14, 2012 4:21:09 PM

Sunius said:
Might be driver problem. I'd suggest clean windows install, since you switched from AMD/ATI to nVidia..

I uninstalled the AMD drivers/CCC and used Driver Sweeper to get rid of any left over AMD graphics drivers. I am using a OEM win 7 so does that mean I cant do a fresh install? Do you thik it will actually make a difference?
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January 14, 2012 4:57:08 PM

I did this benchmark. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGDXT4oyNGc with no Physx he got a AVG of 61.6 with everything else maxed with the same GPU, a 975 at stock (3.6 and mine is 3.86 OC) with no OC on his GPU and also 8GB ram. I got 58.8FPS AVG on 1680x1050 display which should of actually gave me 63 or 64FPS then!
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January 14, 2012 5:52:37 PM

What about GPU clocks that difference can be easily explained on GPU overclock! Most people do not see the difference after 30fps and nobody will see the difference between 58 and 62!
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January 14, 2012 6:09:07 PM

rolli59 said:
What about GPU clocks that difference can be easily explained on GPU overclock! Most people do not see the difference after 30fps and nobody will see the difference between 58 and 62!

His GPU is stock too. I just dont see how I get lower fps on lower resolution. As for the guy I follow on a PC gaming website called KBMOD he has a 965 at 3.8ghz 4gb gskill ripjaws and the same gtx 570 I have and he runs skyrim on ultra at 1680x1050 with 50+fps and sometimes dips into 40s but when I run ultra with only 4x AA I dip to like 25 on 1680x1050
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January 14, 2012 6:16:36 PM

why did you upgrade to a 570 to play tf2 and skyrim?

anyways skyrim is very cpu limited and thus it doesn't play well on anything except an OC'ed sandy bridge.

Tf2 you are getting over 60 FPS, I don't see why it matters.
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January 14, 2012 6:35:15 PM

I suggest uninstalling your drivers and use drive sweeper both for nvidia and amd/ati. Restart your system and install the latest drivers for your 570. This will make sure there are no left over files causing any trouble.

If you have ran the same install windows for while I suggest you try Advanced SystemCare 5 to clean out all old reg settings.

I suggest upgrading to the 3570k in April. I want one with the z77 board. ;) 
http://wccftech.com/intel-ivy-bridge-22nm-core-i7-3770k...

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January 14, 2012 6:50:46 PM

elbert said:
I suggest uninstalling your drivers and use drive sweeper both for nvidia and amd/ati. Restart your system and install the latest drivers for your 570. This will make sure there are no left over files causing any trouble.


I suggest upgrading to the 3570k in April. I want one with the z77 board. ;) 
http://wccftech.com/intel-ivy-bridge-22nm-core-i7-3770k...

I uninstalled my AMD drivers and used driver sweeper already. I have the latest drivers. I am going to upgrade to Ivy Bridge but this CPU is still good and idk why I get less performance then others...
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January 14, 2012 6:57:44 PM

wheelzz said:
I uninstalled my AMD drivers and used driver sweeper already. I have the latest drivers. I am going to upgrade to Ivy Bridge but this CPU is still good and idk why I get less performance then others...

If you have ran the same install of windows for while I suggest you try Advanced SystemCare 5 to clean out all old reg settings. It can also tweak your windows settings for better game performance in turbo boost.
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January 14, 2012 8:59:52 PM

elbert said:
If you have ran the same install of windows for while I suggest you try Advanced SystemCare 5 to clean out all old reg settings. It can also tweak your windows settings for better game performance in turbo boost.

I have ran the same windows install since september
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January 15, 2012 3:25:03 AM

wheelzz said:
I have ran the same windows install since september

I would suggest you install and run Advanced SystemCare 5 about every month. Its a great little tool to remove junk from your windows registry, defrages windows registry, as well as removes spyware, history, and finds all OS updates.
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January 15, 2012 3:28:32 AM

wheelzz said:
I have ran the same windows install since september

I would suggest it anyways as its free and fixes a good deal of system problems. I run it about once a month for keep my registry clear of junk. It does a lot more if you want to give it a try.
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January 16, 2012 3:10:14 PM

esrever said:
why did you upgrade to a 570 to play tf2 and skyrim?

anyways skyrim is very cpu limited and thus it doesn't play well on anything except an OC'ed sandy bridge.

Tf2 you are getting over 60 FPS, I don't see why it matters.

I also play tribes, some cod rarely. I upgraded to a 570 because AMD's drivers suck and my 6870 was loud
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January 16, 2012 7:34:32 PM

esrever said:
why did you upgrade to a 570 to play tf2 and skyrim?

anyways skyrim is very cpu limited and thus it doesn't play well on anything except an OC'ed sandy bridge.

Tf2 you are getting over 60 FPS, I don't see why it matters.

Plus a PC guy from the PC website KBMOD I follow has a 965 at 3.8ghz(same cpu but is 3.4ghz stock) the same GTX 570 HD I have and 4GB ram and he reports 50+ fps on ultra and sometimes dipping into 40s. I usually sit in 40s-50s avg on high and dip down to like 32.
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January 16, 2012 7:37:30 PM

elbert said:
I would suggest it anyways as its free and fixes a good deal of system problems. I run it about once a month for keep my registry clear of junk. It does a lot more if you want to give it a try.

Do you think it will make a difference? also, could updating my BIOS do anything? Im using the default bios that was shipped with my board! I was thinking it might be a bug with the card but then again if it was I would either have very hot temps or be getting lower FPS then I am. I never see above 67C in games with the defualt fan settings (hits about 45% fan)
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January 16, 2012 7:38:00 PM

Have you tried the beta drivers that are optimized for skyrim?
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January 16, 2012 7:42:07 PM

amuffin said:
Have you tried the beta drivers that are optimized for skyrim?

its not just skyrim. Its other games too. my AVG fps is lower!
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January 16, 2012 8:36:45 PM

wheelzz said:
Do you think it will make a difference? also, could updating my BIOS do anything? Im using the default bios that was shipped with my board! I was thinking it might be a bug with the card but then again if it was I would either have very hot temps or be getting lower FPS then I am. I never see above 67C in games with the defualt fan settings (hits about 45% fan)

Sure as its always easier to find setting in a smaller registry. Every time you install a program then uninstall all the setting are left in your windows registry. This can increase the time to start windows its self and many program in windows. I suggest you update your bios to verion 0901without question. Just be cautioned to not turn off your computer while updating.
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January 17, 2012 11:41:27 PM

elbert said:
Sure as its always easier to find setting in a smaller registry. Every time you install a program then uninstall all the setting are left in your windows registry. This can increase the time to start windows its self and many program in windows. I suggest you update your bios to verion 0901without question. Just be cautioned to not turn off your computer while updating.

Thanks sir! You are very helpful :D  I do the registry and bios tomorrow :D 
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January 17, 2012 11:46:14 PM

elbert said:
Sure as its always easier to find setting in a smaller registry. Every time you install a program then uninstall all the setting are left in your windows registry. This can increase the time to start windows its self and many program in windows. I suggest you update your bios to verion 0901without question. Just be cautioned to not turn off your computer while updating.

Also, how exactly does that software work? Just removes any entries in the registry that aren't associated with any software currently installed?
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January 18, 2012 2:14:53 PM

wheelzz said:
Also, how exactly does that software work? Just removes any entries in the registry that aren't associated with any software currently installed?

Yes as well as file associations, shortcuts, and dangerous settings that will allow outside access to you PC. It not only check your PC for malware but also changes any setting in your registry that malware may exploit. I suggest for the first deep scan to turn off disk scan and disk defrag on windows 7. Windows 7 takes care of these 2 while not being used already.

Its number 4 on cnets popular downloads so no worries about its credibility.
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January 18, 2012 7:26:29 PM

elbert said:
Yes as well as file associations, shortcuts, and dangerous settings that will allow outside access to you PC. It not only check your PC for malware but also changes any setting in your registry that malware may exploit. I suggest for the first deep scan to turn off disk scan and disk defrag on windows 7. Windows 7 takes care of these 2 while not being used already.

Its number 4 on cnets popular downloads so no worries about its credibility.

Why turn it off? I have defrag on manual is that okay?
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January 18, 2012 11:43:24 PM

wheelzz said:
Why turn it off? I have defrag on manual is that okay?

Sorry I wasn't talking about windows 7's defrag. I was talking about Advanced systems care's defrag. See deep scan has an option to defrag your HD as well as a scan disk check boxs. These you don't need advanced system care to run as your windows 7 is already do those.
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