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Beat this Build, 600 dollar SC2 Low Details Gaming Computer

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March 20, 2012 3:01:07 AM

Hello, I have made a build, but this one is too expensive. I want a budget PC that is a lot cheaper and fills my minimum needs.

Approximate Purchase Date:this week

Budget Range: 100-550 preferably

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Starcraft 2 Low details 1v1 gaming 30 fps or higher, Internet surfing

Parts Not Required: I need everything except a mouse.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I love newegg.com

Country: US

Parts Preferences: AMD

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1024X720 minimum display resolution

Additional Comments: Here is the current build for 671 dollars including OS.

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM
18 dollars

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120m
55 dollars

ASRock A75 PRO4 FM1 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
90 dollars

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM 5 dollars

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model
41 dollars

AMD A8-3870K Unlocked Llano 3.0GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD
140 dollars

Newegg Promotional Gift Card - $15.00

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible
35 dollars

Acer S200HLAbd Black 20" 5ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor

90 dollars


Rosewill RK-800G Black 104 Normal Keys PS/2 Wired Gaming Keyboard
10 dollars

http://www.alwayslowest.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=shop.d...

Seasonic 500W SS-500ET

58$



I will get a mouse and an OS from a friend.
March 20, 2012 4:18:03 AM

I'd completely scrap that whole build - the Llano is a good idea but it's not meant for any sort of gaming build when the i3-2120 will run circles around it.

Try this:

Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 - $49.99 ($10.00 MIR)
PSU: Corsair CX500 - $59.99 ($20.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Intel BOXDH67DLCB3 - $89.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i3-2120 - $117.99
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB 1600Mhz - $42.99
HD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB - $84.99
Optical: Lite On DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: Sapphire Flex 6770 - $129.99 ($10.00 MIR)
Monitor: Acer S201HL - $99.99

Total: $688.71 - $40.00 MIR = $648.71

A little over the $600 budget with monitor but without it's around $548.71.
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March 20, 2012 4:48:35 AM

Thanks for the well thought out post. I think that I will prefer your build over mine.

I'll research a little more on that cpu before I start ordering that build.

My other question is, is that graphics card the best choice? Could I get by with a cheaper one since I only want to play the game on low details?

Would there be a problem with swapping this PSU in to save some cash?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
14$

What about swapping in this motherboard for 70 dollars?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I could also get this case for 10 bucks less, however it does seem like a flimsy one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
30 dollars


Thanks again!
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March 20, 2012 5:42:24 AM

StratWaffle said:
Thanks for the well thought out post. I think that I will prefer your build over mine.

I'll research a little more on that cpu before I start ordering that build.

My other question is, is that graphics card the best choice? Could I get by with a cheaper one since I only want to play the game on low details?

Would there be a problem with swapping this PSU in to save some cash?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
14$

What about swapping in this motherboard for 70 dollars?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I could also get this case for 10 bucks less, however it does seem like a flimsy one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
30 dollars


Thanks again!


For the PSU, it has 16 amps on the 12 volt rail. That is... nothing, will give you minimum expandability if any and my DELL 300 watt has 18 amps. Go with the CX500
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March 20, 2012 3:28:51 PM

StratWaffle said:
Thanks for the well thought out post. I think that I will prefer your build over mine.

I'll research a little more on that cpu before I start ordering that build.

My other question is, is that graphics card the best choice? Could I get by with a cheaper one since I only want to play the game on low details?

Would there be a problem with swapping this PSU in to save some cash?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
14$

What about swapping in this motherboard for 70 dollars?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I could also get this case for 10 bucks less, however it does seem like a flimsy one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
30 dollars


Thanks again!


1. I'll definitely reiterate what was said about the PSU - I have a serious distaste for cheap PSUs and the wrong one can seriously damage your system if you're not careful. I do not recommend skimping or compromising in this area as it's the most important part of the build bar none, and I can't stress that enough. Getting a a junk no-name PSU like that can quite literally blow up in your face - tread carefully. Here's some reading that I definitely suggest in this area:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-cost-psu-pc-pow...

2. It's mATX though and I never recommend going mATX on a full desktop system - there's a limited number of RAM slots (2 as opposed to 4), there's nothing in the BIOS that allows for OC'ing should you get an unlocked CPU later on, and you'll have limited number of SATA ports (4 as opposed to 6) so if you want to add any additional drives you're SOL.

3. I wouldn't recommend going that cheap on the case - Rosewill is a decent brand but going that cheap can often mean that the manufacturers will cut corners and there will be things like cheap / bad fans, loose wiring, no cable management, sharp edges that you can easily cut yourself on, things like that.

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Would this not work as well as i3-2120? I know in the review above he compares it to intel cpus that don't have any discrete GPU, which is a bit silly.


There's nothing right now that remotely compares to the i3-2120, and Intel's built-in HD video actually beat out the built-in Radeon 6650 on the Llano, check out this review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-210...

Plus in my build I included a budget video card that's leaps and bounds better than the Llano's built in video.
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March 20, 2012 3:41:28 PM

thanks, great information there. I'll look at that link when I have time to.
Yeah I read that link and I really don't think I should go with AMD.

Another alternative with intel is the g620. That is probably as cheap as I can get, is it good enough for low details in SC2 is what I am wondering tho?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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