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January 9, 2012 6:13:00 AM

Hi wonder if you Gus can help

I have 2 benq 24 monitor which I run portrait and I am very comfortable

I would like to run one more monitor either a 27 inch monitor landscape displaying 4 full side page of a4 with 2 portrait 24 either side for web work

I have no need for gaming
Photoshop and film edit is my next goal

Can ou guys suggest a few display card that will suit the bill

Also if I need 2 cards can I specify one card to drive the 2 portrait monitor and one driving the landscape 27 monitor in the middle ?

Thanks in advance

Benjamin

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January 9, 2012 6:14:14 AM

I am running xp professional still 1920 x1080
a b U Graphics card
January 9, 2012 6:34:35 AM

upgrade the OS to Win7 and get a AMD GPU,likes 5670/6670~
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January 9, 2012 7:03:23 AM

6950, it will also help with photoshop and video editing as most of these are gpu accelerated! Especially photoshop! :) 
January 9, 2012 8:37:34 AM

Quote:
6950, it will also help with photoshop and video editing as most of these are gpu accelerated! Especially photoshop! :) 



Thanks for the information

Ok I upgrade to window 7

Put more ram

Buy a 6950

Will this card support 3 monitors or more ?

Helen
a c 109 U Graphics card
January 9, 2012 8:40:32 AM

Quote:
Thanks for the information

Ok I upgrade to window 7

Put more ram

Buy a 6950

Will this card support 3 monitors or more ?

Helen

yes, max is 5 monitors.
January 9, 2012 8:43:49 AM

Thanks a million

I will start shopping for 6950

Ebuyer a good place ?

Helen
a b U Graphics card
January 9, 2012 9:52:35 AM

Quote:
Thanks for the information

Ok I upgrade to window 7

Put more ram

Buy a 6950

Will this card support 3 monitors or more ?

Helen



Keep in mind if you want to use more than two displays you will need to purchase a separate active dongle for the third monitor. A passive dongle will not work, I tried already.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/amd-rad...

I tried to get 3 monitors running on my 6970 using the 2 dvi-d ports and one passive dongle plugged into the display port with no luck. During boot up all 3 monitors would turn on and off mulitple times and when that finally stopped I would sometimes have 2 monitors working and sometimes 3. If 3 monitors turned on, the resolution automatically drop to 1368x720 and windows would display a driver error. This does not happen on the 6990 which is probably what AMD is talking about when they say you either need a display port capable panel or a display port dongle. It is the same for all AMD cards can output to more than 2 monitors.
January 9, 2012 10:16:59 AM

So basically now I need the 6990 for 3 monitors

Correct ?

Sorry I am a photography so not very technical about these things

Are there any other display cards that I can consider ?

Helen
January 9, 2012 10:18:11 AM

Wow
Just check the price for 6990

I am afraid it way out of my price range a £400 display card
a b U Graphics card
January 9, 2012 11:38:22 AM

Sorry for the confusion. I did not say to get a 6990. I said that the 6990 is the only card that has a display port that will allow the use of a passive dongle in order to connect 3 monitors. The 6970 and 6950 need an active dongle. It is basically an adapter that plugs into the display port on the back of the card next to the 2 dvi-d connections. The passive dongle is just an adapter and the active dongle has a usb cable attached to it that plugs into the usb port to supply power to the adapter because the card cannot physically power 3 monitors at the same time. amuffin's suggestion is a better choice for you but you need an active dongle.
January 14, 2012 8:06:56 PM

Ok boys

Call me stupid or ami missing something

I have posted before but I don't think I am asking the right question

Basically imam trying to link up 3 monitors in vertical mode to work on. I don't need this to play games

I am using window xl professional version and I have an old nvidia 512 mob graphic card

I managed to get 2 of these 24 monitors to work seamlessly with this graphic card

There is a graphic card that comes with the mother board

Now if I add another monitor

Can I use the mother bird graphic card , I tried it and it seems there is no signal
Once I have plugged in the nvidia card

It works when I unplug the nvidia card

If this setupis no good

Can you suggest a good value affordable graphic card to buy on the current market please ?

I would love one screen for photoshop one screen for word processing and one screen for email

Eventually I also like to add another (fourth) screen

Thanks guys

Please don't laugh if I am missing something simple here

Helen
London
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January 14, 2012 10:02:49 PM

Just buy a cheap second nvidia graphics card; that will allow you to attach two more monitors.

The best would be a pci-e based card if you have a second pci-e slot.

Otherwise, you should have a pci slot available which can accomodate a second low priced card.

What motherboard do you have? Some of the older ones did not let you use the onboard graphics when the pci-e graphics slot was used. Read the motherboard manual to be certain. XP can use only one graphics driver as I recall, so that would explain why the integrated graphics might not work; it will need the motherboard graphics driver also.

That would indicate an upgrade to windows 7. W7 64 bit might be a good idea for photoshop performance anyway.
January 14, 2012 10:59:06 PM

http://www.amd.com/uk/products/desktop/graphics/amd-rad...

go to AMD website do some research link above look at the hd 6000 series click on every card check specification look for AMD Eyefinity multi-display technology1 specs
examples :AMD Radeon 6450 cheapest card will say like this >>
*Native support for up to 3 simultaneous displays
*Up to 4 displays supported with DisplayPort 1.2 Multi-Stream Transport
*Independent resolutions, refresh rates, color controls, and video overlays
*Display grouping
*Combine multiple displays to behave like a single large display
Check for the best solution
If you go over to a ADM Radeon 6770 or higher you will ned a minimum 500 w PSU with a 6 pin power conector
You can also check overview to see how many display ports it has
A 6790 will give you 6 monitor suport
Cables will cost
Check youtube EyeFinity
Good luck
January 15, 2012 2:21:18 AM

Wow wonderful

I found this on eBay


3GB ATi Radeon HD 6450 2GB HDMI DVI VGA Silent 3D Graphics Card
160 Core Graphics - DirectX 11 - Perfect BluRay Quality

Will this do ?

Will I be able to control each monitor to different orientation

Example

Left monitor vertical 24 inch
Middle monitor landscape 27 inch
Right monitor vertical 24 inch

Thanks

Helen
Nice to know there is still chivalry out there
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a b C Monitor
January 15, 2012 4:46:12 AM

This card will do fine for your requirements. I think it's pretty old by now but it is what you need to do the stuff that you do. Also it's the easiest to setup without any headaches.
http://www.techpowerup.com/156451/Sapphire-provides-Eye...

Go for the Flex card series by Sapphire and you'll be fine, no other complicated setups needed, easy to configure and stuff like that. Just make sure that the Video Ram is large..... although since you're not gaming it may not be required but that's a luxury you can afford for the prices at which these cards are out.


SAPPHIRE FleX 100314FLEX Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity--- @200USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE FleX 100322FLEX Radeon HD 6450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card ---@ 55USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE Flex 100328FLEX Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card ---@125USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 15, 2012 5:21:53 AM

Guys thanks a million

I have ordered the sapphire flex hd6450 card

Last question if you don't mind

If I run just one screen span across three screens

24 portrait on the left at 1920x1080
27 landscape in the middle at 1920x1080 for photos
24 inch portrait on the right at 1920x1080

The 27 inch monitor is 50mm shorter than the to 24 inch on either side
With the graphic card accommodate that ?

Will the middle screen be squashed or will the driver seize accordingly ?

Really thanks a million

Helen
London
a b U Graphics card
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January 15, 2012 5:31:01 AM

Actually the 2 monitors on either side stand taller than the middle one, so you'll get black strips like a panorama screen on both the left and the right screens whereas the middle one will be completely full without the strips. This is while panning photos across the 3 monitors. But other wise you'll get full screens on all of them.
When you turn your monitor to the vertical alignment the resolution becomes 1080 x 1920 instead of 1920 x 1080.

So when you calculate the total display resolution it needs to be (2 x 1080) + 1920 x (2 x 1920) + 1080 = 4080 x 4920
January 15, 2012 5:42:38 AM

I understand

I seem you are thinking of gaming over one window .. Right ?

I was thinking of running photoshop on its own in the middle and separate window applications on either side like email and full page word processor

Do I still have black strip in that scenario ?

Helen
Thanks
a b U Graphics card
a b C Monitor
January 15, 2012 6:09:35 AM

No, as I said in the earlier post for all other stuff the three monitors will function as full screens, but for Panning a whole pic across them you'll come across the strips or for games and movies. But as far as all other functioning is concerned you'll get full three full size desktop areas to work with.
a b U Graphics card
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January 15, 2012 6:13:46 AM

Ok, I'll write the whole thing again, 'cos for some reason the earlier reply isn't coming thru.

No, you'll not get those black strips while running different applications on the three monitors. The black strip will only appear in movies, pics or games when they would be panned across the three monitors. Otherwise, you'll have the full workspace of three monitors for your use.
January 15, 2012 6:46:23 AM

Thanks

I will purchase as suggested and I will post a final picture to say thank you

Helen
London
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January 15, 2012 7:05:58 AM

Welcome, the pleasure was all ours, from here at Toms.
January 15, 2012 7:21:58 AM

I think I might try hanns 27.5 inch monitor
Very good value against specification

Anybody used one for photoediting ?
a b U Graphics card
a b C Monitor
January 15, 2012 8:50:37 AM

The value (Specs) for money seems to be great, but after reading the reviews on newegg, it really makes me doubt the quality of construction. A lot of people have commented on after sales services being very poor and next to none at Hann's. Dead pixels, Monitors Dying within a year, Edges Bleeding etc etc are the top of the list of cons......
Pro's just seem to be 2 the resolution for the price. And display clarity, which is what attract you , I guess.
a c 277 U Graphics card
a c 77 C Monitor
January 15, 2012 4:04:57 PM

londonhunter said:
Guys thanks a million

I have ordered the sapphire flex hd6450 card

Last question if you don't mind

If I run just one screen span across three screens

24 portrait on the left at 1920x1080
27 landscape in the middle at 1920x1080 for photos
24 inch portrait on the right at 1920x1080

The 27 inch monitor is 50mm shorter than the to 24 inch on either side
With the graphic card accommodate that ?

Will the middle screen be squashed or will the driver seize accordingly ?

Really thanks a million

Helen
London


A graphics card does not care about the size of the monitor, only the resolution.

The 27" display is larger, so the dots(pixels) are a bit further apart. Anything displayed on that screen at native resolution will appear a bit larger than the adjacent images. If you drag it from one to the other, there will be a discontiguous edge.

It might be possible, using the zoom out control to make the center image the same size, but then the graphics card will need to interpolate thbetween the pixels, and the image will not be as sharp.

But, for your purposes, I do not see a bit issue.
You will probably be keeping the images separate, and they will be perfectly legible using the native resolution.
You should be able to resize any window to fit the dimensions and orientation of whichever monitor it is displayed on.
January 15, 2012 9:30:57 PM

You should also keep in mind that Eyefinity does not currently support both Portrait and Landscape modes simultaneously. So the idea of using a 27" in landscape and capping it with 2x 24" in portrait is out.

You can pull this off using TH2Go, might consider that route.

You're also going to find that your 2x TN panels when flexed out to the sides are going to create wretched viewing angles in portrait.

a b U Graphics card
January 15, 2012 9:44:08 PM

Quote:
You should also keep in mind that Eyefinity does not currently support both Portrait and Landscape modes simultaneously. So the idea of using a 27" in landscape and capping it with 2x 24" in portrait is out.

You can pull this off using TH2Go, might consider that route.

You're also going to find that your 2x TN panels when flexed out to the sides are going to create wretched viewing angles in portrait.


Don't think the OP is considering eyefinity. Londonhunter, eyefinity spans your desktop across all 3 monitors for resolutions like 5760x1080 which really only comes in handy for gaming. Only mentioning this because you said you are into photography and not very technical.
January 17, 2012 5:20:03 AM

where is OUR picture Helen ^^
January 18, 2012 9:37:10 PM

Ok thanks to members here

I now have installed amd Radeon sapphire hd6450 flex
Amd mother board PCI-Express slot
3x portrait orientated HDMI monitors benq x 2 and dell x1

I can get only 2 display to work and not for third monitor
Manuals says it has to be attached to display port ???
What is this ?
There are 2 dvi port which I have attached to 2 monitor that works but the one one attached to hdmi port does not get activated ?
I have gone on line and updated driver to no avail

Secondly
The 2 monitor that works I cannot get it or work as one work space in portrait mode
The monitor that works as one work space in landscape mode
I again gone to radeon sapphire site and updated the driver without any improvement

I have been at this for hours now

Please help ........


Helen
London
a c 273 U Graphics card
a b C Monitor
January 18, 2012 9:47:49 PM

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  • 3 monitors which display card
  • Help boys - its me again. Still can't get the graphic card to work
    a b U Graphics card
    a b C Monitor
    January 19, 2012 1:47:21 AM

    Firstly, the 3 monitors will work only in the way the Manual Specifies.


    You need to connect 2 monitors to the 2 DVI outputs on the Card, and the Third Monitor is connected to the Black cable and then to the HDMI output of the Card.
    I have a feeling that you used a HDMI cable straight from the third monitor to the HDMI port of the Card.
    No, You need to connect the DVI Port of the Monitor to the HDMI output of the card using that Black Converter, pigtail looking thing.
    January 19, 2012 4:11:03 PM

    Sorry I have been away

    I will get another dvi to DVi cable and connect the third monitor as printed in the manul

    However that will only address getting the system to identify the third monitor

    I am still trying to get crystal amd software to run portrait on 2 monitors .....
    a b U Graphics card
    a b C Monitor
    January 20, 2012 3:36:58 AM

    You don't need to get another DVI to DVI cable, because it's of no use, you need a HDMI to DVI converter/adapter active or passive, but, that is included with the card. Why should you need to buy one?
    What is Crystal? I don't know of any AMD software with that name?
    Instead of trying to manipulate the Monitor orientation through the CCC, it is a better option to change whatever you want through the Desktop Manager for Windows. Just Identify the Monitors first, then pull and push the monitors the way you want them to be looking in reality, you can even pull and push the borders of the Monitors shown in the Desktop Manager to suit your resolution and orientation.
    January 26, 2012 1:12:41 PM

    alyoshka said:
    You don't need to get another DVI to DVI cable, because it's of no use, you need a HDMI to DVI converter/adapter active or passive, but, that is included with the card. Why should you need to buy one?
    What is Crystal? I don't know of any AMD software with that name?
    Instead of trying to manipulate the Monitor orientation through the CCC, it is a better option to change whatever you want through the Desktop Manager for Windows. Just Identify the Monitors first, then pull and push the monitors the way you want them to be looking in reality, you can even pull and push the borders of the Monitors shown in the Desktop Manager to suit your resolution and orientation.


    Probably talking about Catalyst software from AMD.

    This is a great thread. I'm looking at this card. I have 2 older 17" monitors and a 32" TV that I might set up to watch and work at the same time. Or maybe Skype and work.

    Seeing someone work through their set up will be useful.
    January 26, 2012 1:31:53 PM

    I couldn't pick out from the thread what type of inputs the 3 monitors londonhunter is using have.

    This link from the Sapphire Tech site explains the FleX feature. There are two other screens that further explain it.

    http://www.sapphiretech.com/Flex/FleX_Eng_apply.html

    As I mentioned above I have 2 older 17" monitors with only VGA inputs and a 32" TV with HDMI and other inputs. (Don't think it has a DVI but I'll check in a bit.)

    Based on what I see on the Sapphire site I don't think I can use 2 VGA monitors. But since the card comes with a DVI to VGA adapter it opens the question of whether or not I can use 2 VGA only monitors in the setup if I buy another adapter. I'll check with Sapphire and let you know what I find out.

    I hope this helps not only londonhunter but others as well.
    a b U Graphics card
    a b C Monitor
    January 26, 2012 1:38:18 PM

    Yes, it does work with 2 DVI to VGA Converters, the third one has to be the HDMI to DVI Adapter, you can convert it to a VGA after that if you like.
    It's the other way round that the setups won't work.
    !