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Upgrading GeForce6150 LE, any ideas?

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January 15, 2012 11:24:24 AM

I'm looking to upgrade my HP Pavilion a1600n ( http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=us&lc=en&... ) with a new GPU and some RAM. Any ideas? ;) 

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Next weekend BUDGET RANGE: 100 to 130 dollars

USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming (Must run Napoleon Total War http://www.game-debate.com/games/index.php?g_id=754&gam... at Medium/High), Some video editing (Sony Vegas, etc)

CURRENT GPU AND POWER SUPPLY: GeForce6150 LE with a 300 Watt PSU

OTHER RELEVANT SYSTEM SPECS: The one change from the system's stock specifications was the motherboard when the old one fried and so I have opened my PC and verified that this is the motherboard currently installed: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K9N6PGM2-V.html
The rest of the system's information is neatly found here: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c00...

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: tigerdirect.ca, factorydirect.ca, newegg.com

PARTS PREFERENCES: have been looking at the HD Radeons

OVERCLOCKING: Probably can't do it with my PSU

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1280 by 1024

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Would appreciate any ideas, the main proboblem with choosing is that I am not sure which will work with my low power PSU

:ange:  Considering:
Radeon HD 5670 Video Card
HIS Radeon HD 6670 1GB
Radeon HD 6750 Video Card
Radeon HD HD6770 or HD5770

Thanks for all the help! :bounce: 
a c 84 U Graphics card
January 15, 2012 12:17:37 PM

do you have a 6pin pcie connector if u do not then go for the hd 6670 it doesnt require any power connector and it will do fine with your 300 watts psu but if u want 2 buy gpu like hd 6770 u should upgrade ur psu and i m not sure that ur cpu can handle it i think it will bottleneck samething that u have now that i also have i also have an

amd athlon 4600+@2.4ghz
2gb ram

but i m not going to put an graphic card on such old cpu i will collect some money and then i will buy an motherboard,cpu,psu,graphic card,ram.so first upgrade ur cpu it will bottleneck and if u want an graphic card than go for hd 4670 or 5670 because i m also doing this.
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a b U Graphics card
January 15, 2012 12:31:02 PM

I recommend the 6670 but it will be bottle necked by your CPU.
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January 15, 2012 1:00:44 PM

whooleo said:
I recommend the 6670 but it will be bottle necked by your CPU.


Well, it is overclocked to 2.35 from 2.00? Would that help? :??: 
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January 15, 2012 2:47:09 PM

I dont think bottlenecking will be an issue. My processor, a phenom I x4 2.2ghz can handle any game I throw at it along with my 6870. The only searious problem with your system will be the power supply. With a 6770 your power suppy will not have a high enough wattage to run the card properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This power supply is a good choice, and at a pretty good price. Personally I use the 600w version of this, but even with the 500w version, youll have plenty of room to upgrade to a better card in the future, or overclock
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January 15, 2012 2:56:07 PM

Volklskier25 said:
I dont think bottlenecking will be an issue. My processor, a phenom I x4 2.2ghz can handle any game I throw at it along with my 6870. The only searious problem with your system will be the power supply. With a 6770 your power suppy will not have a high enough wattage to run the card properly.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This power supply is a good choice, and at a pretty good price. Personally I use the 600w version of this, but even with the 500w version, youll have plenty of room to upgrade to a better card in the future, or overclock


Isn't the 6670 a low power card? In another post, a user said it could be put in without changing my PSU? :sweat: 
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January 15, 2012 3:22:54 PM

AMD recomends atleast a 400w to run the 6670. While you probably can run the 6670 on your existing power supply, you wont have alot of room to upgrade or overclock, and you may have power issues in the future. it would probably be a better idea to upgrade now while you have the money and are thinking about it. Also you can spring for the better card if you upgrade your power supply.
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a b U Graphics card
January 15, 2012 4:11:45 PM

you need around 175-200w (aging) at 12v rail to run 6670 with a 95w cpu
check your psu
your cpu will bottelneck 6770 (as i have athlon 64 x2 at 2.7g oc upto 3.2g with 6770 on k9n6pgm2-v and this cpu is bottelnecking 6770)
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January 17, 2012 12:31:41 AM

truegenius said:
you need around 175-200w (aging) at 12v rail to run 6670 with a 95w cpu
check your psu
your cpu will bottelneck 6770 (as i have athlon 64 x2 at 2.7g oc upto 3.2g with 6770 on k9n6pgm2-v and this cpu is bottelnecking 6770)


Assuming the CPU is not an issue, will the card run with 300W. I saw the recommended amount but many people have said they use it with 300W without a problem? :??: 
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a b U Graphics card
January 17, 2012 6:01:14 AM

when it comes to psu then cpu and gpu are the main issue, we have to consider both for power consumption

can you wait for 2-3 months, because radeon hd7 series will be available in few months, and they have dx11.1 support and more performance per watt

if you mean to not to consider cpu bottleneck then you can have any card that can work with your psu
you need minimum 15a on 12v rail (combined) to run 6670. and no overclocking
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January 17, 2012 7:38:57 PM

truegenius said:
when it comes to psu then cpu and gpu are the main issue, we have to consider both for power consumption

can you wait for 2-3 months, because radeon hd7 series will be available in few months, and they have dx11.1 support and more performance per watt

if you mean to not to consider cpu bottleneck then you can have any card that can work with your psu
you need minimum 15a on 12v rail (combined) to run 6670. and no overclocking


Okay, lets finish this off. PLEASE LOL :sarcastic: 

a) Can I, run the Radeon HD6770, with my existing setup?

b)If so, is it a good choice or are there any better cards out there?

c) If not, what card could I run on my existing setup without changing anything else?

d) What do you think of these cards instead:

AMD Radeon HD 6850, or the Radeon HD 6870, or the Radeon HD 4670, or the Geforce GTX 460, or the Radeon HD 5570, or the GeForce GT 440, or the Radeon HD 5750, or the Radeon HD 5670, or the Radeon HD 3450, or the GeForce 8400

or :na: 

Radeon HD 5670 Video Card
HIS Radeon HD 6670 1GB
Radeon HD 6750 Video Card
Radeon HD HD6770 or HD5770

Any candidates I'm missing?

Maybe your top five picks :wahoo:  (value and performance in terms of the most "bang for your buck") out of this whole bunch?
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a b U Graphics card
January 18, 2012 5:53:22 PM

a. No, as Current psu cannot handle 6770.

B. Since your priority is gaming the ati is good with that psu, as you do video editing , so nvidia is a better choice for sony vegas.

C. You maybe able to run 6670 and is a good match for current cpu, but still cpu is bottleneck.

d. Your psu cannot handle these
AMD Radeon HD 6850, or the Radeon HD 6870,the Geforce GTX 460,or the Radeon HD 5750,Radeon HD 6750 Video Card,Radeon HD HD6770 or HD5770
other cards does not worth buying for gaming.

Solution. Sell this psu (for maybe 10doller) and strech your total budget upto 150 and then you can buy a gtx550ti and a new psu of around 20 doller, and you can think of an upgrade in fupure too (cpu)
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a b U Graphics card
January 18, 2012 6:27:41 PM

or a another alternative is
grab a phenom 2 x3 710 and a gtx440 in around your budget
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January 18, 2012 8:11:18 PM

truegenius said:
or a another alternative is
grab a phenom 2 x3 710 and a gtx440 in around your budget


We have a breakthrough haha

I opened my PC to check the PSU again ;) 

This is exactly what the label says:

SPEED Switching Power Supply
Model: SPEED-450ATX (450WMAX)

Vac-
INPUT
_____
VOLTAGE 115/230V

CURRENT 10A/5A

FREQUENCY
60/50Hz

Vdc
MAX DC
OUTPUT
______
+3.3 - 28A
+5 - 40A
+12 - 18A

-12 - 1.0A
-5 - 1.0A
+5SB - 3.0A

BLK - COM
GRN - P-ON
GRY - PG

P4

:o  Pretty much this one: http://www.cuttingedgecomputers.ca/shopexd.asp?id=1685

Can I run cards up to 450W then??? That fixes a lot of our problems? :pt1cable: 
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a b U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 5:41:32 AM

if you do not want to upgrade your cpu and psu, then you can use card upto 100w tdp as it only support 200w at 12v rail and no overclocking, best card that you can have at that psu is 6750 if not considering bottleneck

i have athlon duel core which is around double of yours athlon, and i have 6770 which is double of 6670.
My cpu bottleneck 6770 and thus your cpu will bottleneck 6670, so you will need to upgrade your cpu too IF YOU WANT TO USE 6670 OR ABOVE EFFECTIVLY.
with your current cpu you can get 20 fps in gta4, 30 in left4dead, 20 in jc2, 30 in mw2 and mw3, 5 in cod black ops
6670 is far more better than that geforce6150
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January 21, 2012 12:10:34 PM

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a c 271 U Graphics card
January 21, 2012 12:39:43 PM

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