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March 21, 2012 7:47:04 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 8th April

Budget Range: ~$1500 before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Games, movies, internet, general tinkering

Parts Not Required: OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Whatever is cheapest

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: Intel CPU fo' sho'

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: In the future

Monitor Resolution: 1920X1080

Additional Comments: This is what I have chosen so far:

Case: Cooler Master HAF-X
PSU: Antec EathWatts EA 650W
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K Quad Core Unlocked Processor LGA1155 3.3GHZ Sandy Bridge 6MB
CPU Heatsink: CM Hyper 212 EVO
Watercooling in the future maybe.
Thermal compound: Artic Silver 5 probably, or the one that comes with the heatsink
Motherboard: ASRock Z68 EXTREME3 GEN3 ATX LGA1155 DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E SATA3 USB3.0 SLI CrossFireX Motherboard
HD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA3 64MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive (ST2000DM001)
SSD: Future upgrade
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory
Optical drive: LG SuperMulti 24x DVD Writer, SATA, OEM, Black
GPU: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870
Monitor: Asus LCD VS247H-P LED Backlight 24inch Wide HDMI DVI VGA 1920x1080 50000000:1 2ms RetailCurrent
Speakers: Logitech LS21 2.1 Stereo Speaker System
Keyboard: Logitech G510
Mousemat: lol I don't know, not exactly top priority but I do need one

Now keep in mind these are all subject to change after discussion, it's why I'm putting this thread up. I have spent countless hours reading and watching reviews on components, but it's still good to get peoples opnion on what you choose. Anyway, onto the questions!

1. After reading this artice I'm now wondering if I should wait for Ivy Bridge? It states the equivilant of the i5-2500K in Ivy is the i5-3750K and only a few dollars extra. Is it worth it or should I get the i5-2500k Sandy Bridge anyway once Ivy Bridge is released (April 8th??) since it will be cheaper and the difference is next to nothing?

2. Someone mentioned to me that I might have clearence problems with my CPU heatsink and RAM. Has anyone built a similar rig to this have any input? I was told I could get the Corsair 2x4gb instead of the G Skill since they are lower profile but I didn't read great things about the Corsair ones... Also is there a heatsink similar to the Hyper 212+ but not with direct pipe contact? I've read about the gaps inbetween the pipes and rough surface finishes, don't fancy it really. Can the Hyper 212 (and the heatsink you reccommend) be turned so that it blows the air up and out the top of the case?

3. GPU - Christ what a headache, I'm pretty lost here.

4. Monitor - Is 1920x1080 the best resolution for 24"? Any recomendations here are welcome. I'm trying to find one with height adjustment.

5. Speakers - keyboard & mouse. Open to suggestion here too. You might guess I like Logitech for this type of stuff.

6. Mousemat - Bottom of the list haha anyone know of any unusual or interesting ones about?
March 21, 2012 8:01:48 PM

I would suggest Rosewill, Antec, or Lian Li for cases, and Xigmatek or Noctua for CPU coolers.
Since you aren't buying until May, and new GPUs are coming out over the next couple of months, I believe you'll need to wait until then to decide what to get. If you were buying today, I'd probably suggest a GTX560Ti or HD7870 (the latter is stronger, but may have some new-driver issues).
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March 22, 2012 10:14:38 AM

Well the PSU I want is Antec, not CoolerMaster. Can you link me to some articles/reviews to support what you say about Coolermaster? BTW for my graphics card I'm not willing to pay more than $350
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March 22, 2012 11:30:56 AM

I would get a Kepler gpu and the I5-3750k (ib).
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April 2, 2012 2:33:22 PM

I've changed my purchase date to around mid-April. I also got answers to some of my questions:
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1. After reading this artice I'm now wondering if I should wait for Ivy Bridge? It states the equivilant of the i5-2500K in Ivy is the i5-3750K and only a few dollars extra. Is it worth it or should I get the i5-2500k Sandy Bridge anyway once Ivy Bridge is released (April 8th??) since it will be cheaper and the difference is next to nothing?


Still not answered really, I'll more than likely stick with the SB i5.

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2. Someone mentioned to me that I might have clearence problems with my CPU heatsink and RAM. Has anyone built a similar rig to this have any input? I was told I could get the Corsair 2x4gb instead of the G Skill since they are lower profile but I didn't read great things about the Corsair ones... Also is there a heatsink similar to the Hyper 212+ but not with direct pipe contact? I've read about the gaps inbetween the pipes and rough surface finishes, don't fancy it really. Can the Hyper 212 (and the heatsink you reccommend) be turned so that it blows the air up and out the top of the case?


After seeing some builds using these components, the worst I read is that the fan had to be lifted slightly to allow cleareance for the RAM, plus this article uses the same components and nothing is mentioned about cleareance problems. No answer either if I can turn the heat sink so the fan is blowing upwards. With the huge exhaust fan at the top of the HAF-X, in my mind it's better to have the heat sink fan blowing to the bigger of the 2 exhaust fans on the case.

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3. GPU - Christ what a headache, I'm pretty lost here.

Pretty much decided on the Asus Radeon HD 7870

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4. Monitor - Is 1920x1080 the best resolution for 24"? Any recomendations here are welcome. I'm trying to find one with height adjustment.


Got no answers here, I'm just going to stick with the one in my orignal list.

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5. Speakers - keyboard & mouse. Open to suggestion here too. You might guess I like Logitech for this type of stuff.


Probably going to stick with the same speakers and maybe get some headphones too. Keyboard and mouse I might get a better set, undecided ATM.


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6. Mousemat - Bottom of the list haha anyone know of any unusual or interesting ones about?


Yup, best thing to do is go into BestBuy or FutureShop and have a look.

I've also decided to get a surge protector, looking at this one. Any recommendations?
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April 3, 2012 1:43:16 AM

You've waited long enough. Would you be willing to wait a bit more? We're about to see the rest of Kepler, and if it's anything like the 680 at the mid-end it'll be worth waiting for.
1. Ivy may show up if you wait for Kepler.

2. Get the Hyper 212 EVO, which is HDT but very popular and cost-effective, and some low-profile RAM like the G.Skill Ares series or, yes, the Corsairs. All major models should be fine.

3. Kepler?

4. 1920x1080 is the only way to go. I don't know about height adjustment, though.

5. I highly recommend that you get your hands on a mechanical keyboard, at least to try it out. I have a Das, and it's changed my life, but you don't need to spend $130 to get a great board. An $80 Razer Blackwidow would be great too.
I'm a Razer mouse fan, but I don't have that much experience. Try as many as you can.
If you're any kind of audiophile, I can guarantee that those speakers will sound awful. You just can't get good sound quality for $25. If you don't care, go for it. If you do, do a whole lot more research and spend as much as you're willing to. I have a set of these, and they sound unbelievable: http://www.amazon.com/Avid-9900-65174-00-M-Audio-BX5-D2...
These would be fine as well: http://www.amazon.com/M-Audio-Studiophile-Powered-Monit...

6. The Steelseries Qck is a good, cheap, large mat, around $12.

I don't know about the surge protector, unfortunately.
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April 3, 2012 7:34:50 PM

How much longer? Keeping in mind I'm not willing to pay more than CAD$350. I have my eyes on the ASUS Radeon HD 7870 now.

I'll check out the 212 EVO when I get the chance.

Yea, you are right about the speakers, I havn't even read any reviews about them, I do live in a apartment in a very quiet area so booming base isn't important, just decent quality.
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April 4, 2012 1:51:40 PM

Ahh too far away. It's my bday this month and I want to treat myself. Plus the longer I wait the more money I will pump into this, which is not a bad thing exactly but July is going to be a very expensive month for me so I need to start thinking about that too. The price isn't too bad on those speakers, I'll have a look later this evening.
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April 5, 2012 6:00:14 PM

Updated the OP, I made some changes/decisions:

Case is definatly the HAF-X
Getting the CM Hyper 212 EVO instead of Plus
GPU is going to be the Sapphier Radeon HD 7870
Not getting a keyboard and mouse combo anymore, I have the Logitech G510 chosen for now. I'm going into a store over the long weekend to play around with a few.
Speakers - I'm getting the Creative Labs Inspire T6160 5.1
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April 6, 2012 4:38:14 PM

Ordering over the weekend
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April 10, 2012 2:03:52 AM

Everything ordered! Had a little hicup with credit card billing address, my credit card company had the wrong postal code! All sorted now and just waiting!
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April 12, 2012 3:21:56 AM

Good stuff.
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April 12, 2012 2:49:04 PM

The hicups seem to continue, orignally I was putting all the stuff on my GFs Amex because she gets a rebate on purchases and I don't. So we had 4 orders total:

BestDirect
NCIX
DirectCanada
Staples (for a desk)

I placed all the orders on Sunday, the next day in the evening DirectCanada e-mail me to say the credit card verification was not approved, so I call DirectCanada to see what the problem is and they basically repeat what the e-mail said, call your bank. As my GF is looking through one of her Amex bills she realises that the postal code is wrong! After calling them and chaging it, we decided to use her Visa instead because she gets better rebates on that and assuming that the other 3 orders will fail also. I call them each to change the credit card info and get the following responses:

BestDirect: There was no problem with the payment, it has gone through and it should be shipped soon (last I heard, it left Vancouver at 19:30 on Monday 9th)

NCIX: The guy told me it's better if he just cancelles the order and I make a new one with the other credit card, he said it's taking longer than usual to verify the credit card info so it probably means it's been rejected anyway. So that's what I do.

Staples: No problem with payment, desk should be delivered on Tuesday (It did)

So I re-order from NCIX and DirectCanada with the Visa, Tuesday DirectCanada e-mail me saying ccard verification failed (for the same reasons as before) and yesterday NCIX send me the same e-mail. Now I have checked the address again and again and it is correct so the only thing is there must be some small difference that is messing everything up, so my GF needs to call her bank to see but she is in the middle of exams right now and won't have the time to calll until next week! Nightmare!

Now for the cream on the coffee: My GF checked her credit card (Visa) statment online last night and there is a deduction for the exact amount that DirectCanada charged...???

I'm calling them today once they open in about 2 hours.

There goes my plan of having all the parts in my hands on of before my bday!
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April 15, 2012 8:47:05 PM

Well I got everything sorted on Friday, turns out Visa didn't have our appartment number on file which was messing everything up. I still find it very, very strange that DirectCanada take your money BEFORE they check your billing address...
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April 18, 2012 2:32:48 AM

BestDirect order arrived yesterday, I have the mobo, screen, surge protector and heat sink. Pics to follow. Waiting for NCIX to ship and DirectCanada shipped yesterday. I doubt I will have everything until next week :( 

I ordered a GameCube controller and an adapater to connect it to the PC too so I can play GC games on the PC with Dolphin!
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April 18, 2012 2:36:58 AM

MELEE
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April 18, 2012 1:27:06 PM

Eh?
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April 18, 2012 10:58:22 PM

The best GC game ever made happens to also be the best multiplayer video game ever made.
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April 21, 2012 9:55:13 PM

"Mark", eh? Heh.
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April 21, 2012 10:04:32 PM

If that is my real name...
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April 23, 2012 8:37:01 PM

So I'm wondering... what do I do once everything is installed and I turn the PC on for the first time? Are there some things I need to do in the BIOS before I install Windows?

Is there any order I should install drivers/software once Windows is installed?
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April 23, 2012 11:46:12 PM

Huh. I realize, now that I've checked for one in the OP, that you're planning to add an SSD in the future. I can tell you now that you'll probably be doing a clean install then; you can do it otherwise, but it can be a drag.
Switch your SATA mode to AHCI before you install Windows. I think that's the right way to do it. That way you won't have to make the change when you get an SSD.
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April 24, 2012 1:48:08 PM

I asked before and someone said when Windows asks me to create a partition on the HD, make the partiontion the full size of the HD and then when I get a SSD just install Windows onto it and delete it off the HD.

Picked up (almost) all of the parts yesterday, the only thing I'm missing now is the CPU which I think will be delivered tomorrow and some jewal cases which will be delivered today!

Sorry for the bad quality of some of the pics.

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600275436

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600276522

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600275303

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600275257

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600264003

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600264003

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600263834

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600262205

I'm not too impressed with the dust filters in the HAF-X, the gaps are larger than I expected, smaller than the gaps in the grill at the front but still large enough for dust to get through IMO.

The hard drive and DVD burner are both OEM. I didn't realize this until they arrived so I'm lucky since 2 (SATA?) leads came with the mobo so I can connect them. Am I correct in assuming that OEM stuff doesn't come with cables or anything or is this the norm for hard drives and DVD burners?

Anyway, overall I'm happy and I can't wait for the weekend to put it all together and press the power button
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April 24, 2012 1:53:11 PM

modbus said:
I asked before and someone said when Windows asks me to create a partition on the HD, make the partiontion the full size of the HD and then when I get a SSD just install Windows onto it and delete it off the HD.

Picked up (almost) all of the parts yesterday, the only thing I'm missing now is the CPU which I think will be delivered tomorrow and some jewal cases which will be delivered today!

Sorry for the bad quality of some of the pics.

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600275436

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600276522

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600275303

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600275257

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600264003

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600264003

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600263834

https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_600262205

I'm not too impressed with the dust filters in the HAF-X, the gaps are larger than I expected, smaller than the gaps in the grill at the front but still large enough for dust to get through IMO.

The hard drive and DVD burner are both OEM. I didn't realize this until they arrived so I'm lucky since 2 (SATA?) leads came with the mobo so I can connect them. Am I correct in assuming that OEM stuff doesn't come with cables or anything or is this the norm for hard drives and DVD burners?

Anyway, overall I'm happy and I can't wait for the weekend to put it all together and press the power button


Yes, that is the norm with most OEM parts. Most motherboards come with SATA cables. Good Luck with your new system! :bounce: 
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April 24, 2012 3:38:34 PM

Thanks! I got the order of deliverys mixed up too, CPU today, jewal cases tomorrow!
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April 24, 2012 4:28:37 PM

i completely disagree.cooler master provides a wide range of cases.from affordable cases like HAF 912(a very capable case for it's price)to dream cases like cosmos ii.
as far as power supply is the case then FYI they don't make their own units.i don't know about other models but 'silent pro' series is one of the best power supplies available in the market.my brother runs a 2600k/580 setup with a silent pro gold 1000w psu and it's working like a charm.
no offence meant just some thoughts.
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April 24, 2012 5:23:56 PM

Yea I searched for what he said about CoolerMaster but couldn't find anything, I guess he just had a bad experience with one of their products or something.

GF just called, CPU is there! Now I have everything I need and 4 long days until the weekend!
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April 27, 2012 4:30:31 PM

I will :D 
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May 2, 2012 5:58:26 PM

Well she's build! Did everything last Saturday, pressed the power button (after several nail biting moments) and it worked! Somethings I noted:

The pressure required to push the socket arm back into place after you install the CPU was very surprising, even more surprising is that it's not mentioned in the small book that comes with the CPU. After my first try I got scared and Googled it to make sure I had to apply that amount of force, I found a thread on here saying exactly that.

I wish I got a modular PSU, but now that it's in the case with everything tied up that doesn't really matter.

Getting the hard drive into the clip on drawer was very hard, the small nipples that are supposed to click into the sides of the hard drive kept popping out of their rubber grommets and I had to take more from the other drawers. Then sliding it into the cage was just as hard, I had to really jam it in there.

Case is a lot quieter than I thought it would be.

I had one wierd problem a few hours after I turned it on, I was on the internet and suddenly the screen goes black and says "No HDMI input". As I'm looking at the back of the case, the computer suddenly turns off. Then when I sit down and turn it back on it goes straight to the desktop with everything I had open still sitting there. That made me think it might be this Instant Boot utility I downloaded from the ASRock website so I uninstalled it, the computer has been on constantly since then and it hasn't happened again.

Anyway I'm really happy with it. All I've done so far is play some Skyrim but not much else as I havn't had the time. So what's next? Benchmarks? Overclock? All I want to do right now is play some demanding games TBH.

Some pics during the build:

CPU installed
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_615038750

Heatsink installed
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_615038791

Ram installed, I could only use certain slots if I didn't want to move the fan on the heatsink
https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D7168050_709_615038791
https://m1gormley.sugarsync.com/albums/image/3#254_1605...

Putting everthing into the case:
https://m1gormley.sugarsync.com/albums/image/3#254_1605...
https://m1gormley.sugarsync.com/albums/image/3#254_1605...
https://m1gormley.sugarsync.com/albums/image/3#254_1605...

I don't have any pics of the before and after cable management as I got too into it at that point and forgot to take pics :p 
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