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New Feature Idea: How Do I "Sell" It To A Company?

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Anonymous
March 2, 2005 11:06:00 PM

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Hi.

I'll start by saying that I'm in the UK, and only interested in offering
this idea to companies with a presence in the UK.


Last night I came up with an idea for a new security feature for mobile
phones.

Just thought I'd use Orange's "suggestion" form on their website.

However, I think I'll leave it for the time being, because I'd get no
reward from them for it, in the unlikely event that it was implemented:

"I agree that I want to submit this suggestion to Orange. I agree to allow
Orange to use the suggestion. I understand that by submitting this
suggestion to Orange the suggestion will become the property of
Orange plc."

You HAVE to agree to that; the checkbox next to it is a mandatory field.

I can see why they've done it, but I think they can sod off! I'd like at
least some recognition and small financial reward if my suggestion were
implemented.

My idea was certainly not specific to Orange; I just went there first cos I
use their network. It could be applied to any phone.

This idea may well be patentable (Not that I really know anything about such
things. It's not "obvious", and I know of no prior art though.) and therefore could
be made into a Unique Selling Point for a network or handset manufacturer.

Has anyone here ever managed to approach a mobile network, or handset
manufacturer, and successfully negotiated sharing an idea for a potentially
profitable feature with them? Or anyone else know whom I can contact (email
addresses, please) to initiate contact?


Thanks.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk

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Anonymous
March 3, 2005 2:16:42 AM

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Fleetie wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'll start by saying that I'm in the UK, and only interested in
> offering this idea to companies with a presence in the UK.
>
>
> Last night I came up with an idea for a new security feature for
> mobile phones.
>
> Just thought I'd use Orange's "suggestion" form on their website.
>
> However, I think I'll leave it for the time being, because I'd get
> no reward from them for it, in the unlikely event that it was
> implemented:
> "I agree that I want to submit this suggestion to Orange. I agree
> to allow Orange to use the suggestion. I understand that by submitting
> this
> suggestion to Orange the suggestion will become the property of
> Orange plc."
>
> You HAVE to agree to that; the checkbox next to it is a mandatory
> field.
> I can see why they've done it, but I think they can sod off! I'd
> like at least some recognition and small financial reward if my
> suggestion
> were implemented.

T'was ever thus. My father, a brilliant engineer (IMHO..!) invented a new
process for the painting of car bodies in the motor industry. He got no
recognition for it whatsoever, the company he was working for at the time
took all the credit.

Ivor
Anonymous
March 4, 2005 11:11:09 AM

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In article <I0pVd.1612$dF4.1164@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, Fleetie
<fleetie@fleetie.demon.co.uk> writes
>Hi.
>
>I'll start by saying that I'm in the UK, and only interested in offering
>this idea to companies with a presence in the UK.
>
>
>Last night I came up with an idea for a new security feature for mobile
>phones.

<snip>

>This idea may well be patentable (Not that I really know anything about such
>things. It's not "obvious", and I know of no prior art though.) and
>therefore could
>be made into a Unique Selling Point for a network or handset manufacturer.
>
>Has anyone here ever managed to approach a mobile network, or handset
>manufacturer, and successfully negotiated sharing an idea for a potentially
>profitable feature with them? Or anyone else know whom I can contact (email
>addresses, please) to initiate contact?

One thing to be aware of is that many companies will refuse to talk to
you at all unless you have started out on the patent road.

There is a very good reason for this - they have huge teams of R&D
engineers who _may_ be working on a similar idea. Just suppose they are
doing, and are well down the road to commercialising it. You walk in,
tell them your idea and they say "sorry, we aren't going to give you any
money because we've already done it". A couple of months later it
appears in products. At that point, you are annoyed because you think
they stole your idea without giving you any credit, and possibly try to
sue them or otherwise cause bad publicity.

Your idea may well be unique, and it could be something that they will
pay to license off you - but be aware that companies do need to protect
themselves in the way outlined above, so you may find it difficult to
talk to anyone at all unless you go in saying "I have this patented idea
you may wish to license".

Also, be sure that you don't tell anyone any details, except under a
strict NDA, before you get your patent application in - otherwise your
patent could be rendered invalid.

Matt
--
Matthew Haigh --$matthaigh{News07}$@haigh.org--
GCRSoft, providing SMS solutions since 1996...
http://www.gcrsoft.com http://www.moretext.com
Anonymous
March 7, 2005 6:03:00 AM

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> One thing to be aware of is that many companies will refuse to talk to you at all unless you have started out on the patent
> road.
>
> There is a very good reason for this - they have huge teams of R&D engineers who _may_ be working on a similar idea. Just
> suppose they are doing, and are well down the road to commercialising it. You walk in, tell them your idea and they say "sorry,
> we aren't going to give you any money because we've already done it". A couple of months later it appears in products. At that
> point, you are annoyed because you think they stole your idea without giving you any credit, and possibly try to sue them or
> otherwise cause bad publicity.
>
> Your idea may well be unique, and it could be something that they will pay to license off you - but be aware that companies do
> need to protect themselves in the way outlined above, so you may find it difficult to talk to anyone at all unless you go in
> saying "I have this patented idea you may wish to license".
>
> Also, be sure that you don't tell anyone any details, except under a strict NDA, before you get your patent application in -
> otherwise your patent could be rendered invalid.

Hi, thanks for the response.

Having had longer to think about it, it seems to me that there may well be
companies with this idea or something with similar fi=unctionality in their
labs.

The point about the possibility of a rejction and the fact they may already
be working on the idea is of course valid.

I dunno.

Having had my phone stolen in December and having had panic attacks about
losing it and all my contacts, until I was lucky enough to have the
Orange Care replace it, though not without serious stress, got me thinking
about how one might reduce the possibility of it happening without one
noticing.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk
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