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Choosing a Graphics card

I have a Aspire x1700
PSU: 220W (will upgrade if i can)
currently using NVIDIA GeForce G100
4.00 GB RAM
INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) Dual CPU E2220 @ 2.40GHz

I'm thinking of this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-121-397&SortField=0&SummaryType=1&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=%28keywords%29&Page=1#scrollFullInfo
but i dont know if it'll fit and i can't find a GT 520 or any better ones.

and im also thinking of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709&IsNodeId=1&CompareItemList=48|14-121-397^DM%2c14-162-067^sCB%2c14-134-121^sCB%2c14-130-579^sCB%2c14-133-386^sCB&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Type=1&Item=14-121-397

and this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500208

Please help me pick one
my main concern is this the super small size of my case
and please feel free to post suggestions

Thank You
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  1. Your system does not draw much power, that said. The 430 is faster then the 520.

    Can you get the specs from the power supply. Look for a combined 12 volt rail if you have more then 1 12 volt rail.

    Your system is also low profile, you need a low profile card with a single slot as well. The Asus looks to tall. The Asus and EVGA low profile cards look to fit. This assumes you have the power needed to use it(specs please from the power supply).

    Here is a 520 review, the 430 is in the charts for fps as well as power.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GT_520/1.html
  2. are all low profiles the same size or are some bigger and some smaller?
  3. i will get this
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817338081
    400W of power, now the only problem is the space
  4. BasisGeek said:
    are all low profiles the same size or are some bigger and some smaller?

    Low profile cards are smaller(they are not as tall. Your system is very slim).

    It may be worth checking with acer on that. The power supply looks just a bit different(it may still fit, but you need to take some measurements of the current unit)
  5. They come in different sizes but they are so close together that you will not see the difference. The low profile means that the card is half the size of a normal card there is no difference in how they preform with a normal sized card. People who have slim line cases have to use the lowprofile card or other wise it won't fit.

    Now iNuke is trying to figure out if you need to upgrade your PSU. What Nvidia recomends is 300w but if your 12v rails add up you might be in luck and still keep your 220w PSU. iNuke is good with the PSU's. I hope you don't have to up grade it. Good luck to you
  6. the graphic cards i posted all the 3 inputs.. but the G100 only has 2 inputs..
    it's just like the 9600GT. does my case only support super low profile cards?

    and btw I can't dig in to see the rails
  7. nope, it doesn't. i don't have the space.
    right beside my PSU is my fan
  8. I'd suggest going for something like a HD6570 for a number of reasons.

    1. It's almost 2x faster than a GT430

    2. It costs the same
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161374
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102934

    3. It consumes much less power than a GT430.
  9. BasisGeek said:
    the graphic cards i posted all the 3 inputs.. but the G100 only has 2 inputs..
    it's just like the 9600GT. does my case only support super low profile cards?

    and btw I can't dig in to see the rails



    So you can't see anywhere on the out side of your PSU any numbers or lettering? All PSU's are suppose to display how much power it takes in and how much power it puts out. If you can't read it you can't read it.
  10. 168 watts is the 12 volt you have to work with.

    I think it is this
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-Electronics-DPS-220UB-2-B-Rev-02F-220-Watt-/150637300917

    Your card will take 50 peak and game at about 30-40 watts with an idle under 10 watts.

    I doubt that cpu takes the 65 watts it is rated at.

    This looks promising.

    I5 750(takes more power then your cpu) + your card + furmarks = 100 watts from the wall. That honestly works close to my i5 750 + 5770 + game = 140 watts from the wall.

    http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/36968-asus-geforce-gt-430-1gb-review-18.html

    It is also important to note that your system being SSF is designed with lower power consumption in mind.

    It would say you should be fairly good to give this a go. You will be about 20-30 watts higher with the new card.

    But remember the card must be only 1 slot thick since you have no room for a 2 slot card.
  11. so should i get the 6570 or the 430?
  12. Those are 6670's and they are too thick they may hit the top of your case.

    In a SFF case, fans are not a bad thing, but the card needs to have a single slot cooler.

    Here is something interesting if you want to try a 6570

    With a 2500K(again more power then your cpu)
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6570-radeon-hd-6670-turks,2925-15.html
  13. I think you can get a GT 430 with a fan in the Lowprofile type card. You just have to look around like amazon.com or tigerdirect.com or even compusa and I know there prices are high but it is a place to look.
  14. where can i find those type of coolers?
  15. OKAY, i have finally decided to choose between the 6570 or the 520

    6570
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-127-612

    OR

    520
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500228

    i will use this for gaming
  16. bump?
    please tell me which to buy, i have to process the order tonight
  17. Ok that PSU you are going to buy is one of the worst PSU's you could buy. It is on the tier 5. Those PSU's burn out real quick or it burns out your rig. One of the other. Here is a link to the brands you want to buy. Tier 1 is the best Tier 3 is border line good to bad and Tier 5 well you know the worst.

    http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

    The best brands are Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, and XFX. Also you need to measure your PSU and compaire it with the one you are going to buy. In slim cases it might not fit like your graphic card if it was normal.

    also the 6570 is the one to get
  18. but its the only mini itx ones
  19. I guess if you have to. I will look and see id I can find anything before you order.
  20. After doing some exploring you are good to go on that one it turns out it is a tier 3 PSU. Get your order in.
  21. I have that case :)

    Your acer board may be too deep(or at least i would guess so). It is not a mini DTX board. it is some custom thing that is made to JUST fit the acer case.

    Mini DTX board
    Image from slashgear.com


    Your board. As you can see, it is longer.
    Image from esaitech.com


    While there is a bit of space at the from of the SG05 case, i am not sure it is enough.
  22. its 3.75"(H) x 7.95"(L) x 2" (W)..the one im using

    EDIT: so.. now what?
  23. BasisGeek said:
    its 3.75"(H) x 7.95"(L) x 2" (W)..the one im using

    That's the power supply right? The one on the SG05 is much different.

    SG05 power supply.
    Image from ME!!!
  24. yeah, my psu is a long rectangle

    so now should i get the athena 400w battery?
    from the comments, it seems fine
  25. BasisGeek said:
    its 3.75"(H) x 7.95"(L) x 2" (W)..the one im using

    EDIT: so.. now what?


    the new PSU is 3.2 H x 6 L x 1.7 W why wouldn't it fit?
  26. DM186 said:
    the new PSU is 3.2 H x 6 L x 1.7 W why wouldn't it fit?

    sry, my bad
    its 3.75"(W) and 2"(H)

    its too tall
  27. I recommend sticking with a card you can power. The 520 is not that good, the 430 or the 6570 should work.

    Here is a compare from toms on the 2 cards. Note the power, but ignore the noise since the one was tested as a passive card.

    http://bit.ly/xW1Rps

    EDIT, even better all 3 cards you have looked at.

    http://bit.ly/x8me0f

    And remember, get a low profile card with a single slot thick heatsink.

    Does your case have a vent on the top?
  28. nukemaster said:
    I recommend sticking with a card you can power. The 520 is not that good, the 430 or the 6570 should work.

    Here is a compare from toms on the 2 cards. Note the power, but ignore the noise since the one was tested as a passive card.

    http://bit.ly/xW1Rps



    ^+1
  29. k, ill get the radeon

    now should i get the athena battery?
  30. You should not require it.

    A user had posted running the GT 430 in the same type of system. Your cpu takes less power as well.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/298921-33-help-upgrade-acer-aspire-x1700-video-card-play-burner
  31. nukemaster said:
    You should not require it.

    A user had posted running the GT 430 in the same type of system. Your cpu takes less power as well.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/298921-33-help-upgrade-acer-aspire-x1700-video-card-play-burner
  32. this is how it looks like
    sry for the low resolution
  33. nukemaster said:
    I recommend sticking with a card you can power. The 520 is not that good, the 430 or the 6570 should work.

    Here is a compare from toms on the 2 cards. Note the power, but ignore the noise since the one was tested as a passive card.

    http://bit.ly/xW1Rps

    EDIT, even better all 3 cards you have looked at.

    http://bit.ly/x8me0f

    And remember, get a low profile card with a single slot thick heatsink.

    Does your case have a vent on the top?



    a vent?


    EDIT: it fits right?
  34. Best answer
    Ok, lets clear this up as best I can.

    The vent i was asking about would be on the top of the computer. It is just some holes in the case just like the ones on the back. If you have this, video card heat can get out of the case faster. From google, it looks like you have no vent on top, but do on the side. that should help

    The card will fit as long as it is low profile and has only a single slot heatsink.

    the low profile card is not as wide. The plugs are different because they are not for the same systems(one PCI-E and one AGP).

    Again the card is not as wide. You can also see the heatsink on the low profile card does not hang past the metal plate.


    A card like the one on the bottom will NOT work because the heatsink will hit the top of your case. The card is low profile, but too thick.
    Image from hardwarecanucks.com
  35. Best answer selected by BasisGeek.
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