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January 17, 2012 11:12:30 PM

I have a Aspire x1700
PSU: 220W (will upgrade if i can)
currently using NVIDIA GeForce G100
4.00 GB RAM
INTEL(R) PENTIUM(R) Dual CPU E2220 @ 2.40GHz

I'm thinking of this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-121-...
but i dont know if it'll fit and i can't find a GT 520 or any better ones.

and im also thinking of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|14-121-397^DM%2c14-162-067^sCB%2c14-134-121^sCB%2c14-130-579^sCB%2c14-133-386^sCB&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&Type=1&Item=14-121-397

and this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Please help me pick one
my main concern is this the super small size of my case
and please feel free to post suggestions

Thank You

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a c 110 U Graphics card
January 17, 2012 11:53:54 PM

Your system does not draw much power, that said. The 430 is faster then the 520.

Can you get the specs from the power supply. Look for a combined 12 volt rail if you have more then 1 12 volt rail.

Your system is also low profile, you need a low profile card with a single slot as well. The Asus looks to tall. The Asus and EVGA low profile cards look to fit. This assumes you have the power needed to use it(specs please from the power supply).

Here is a 520 review, the 430 is in the charts for fps as well as power.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GT_520...
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January 18, 2012 2:11:38 AM

are all low profiles the same size or are some bigger and some smaller?
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a c 110 U Graphics card
January 18, 2012 2:37:30 AM

BasisGeek said:
are all low profiles the same size or are some bigger and some smaller?

Low profile cards are smaller(they are not as tall. Your system is very slim).

It may be worth checking with acer on that. The power supply looks just a bit different(it may still fit, but you need to take some measurements of the current unit)
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a c 181 U Graphics card
January 18, 2012 2:40:11 AM

They come in different sizes but they are so close together that you will not see the difference. The low profile means that the card is half the size of a normal card there is no difference in how they preform with a normal sized card. People who have slim line cases have to use the lowprofile card or other wise it won't fit.

Now iNuke is trying to figure out if you need to upgrade your PSU. What Nvidia recomends is 300w but if your 12v rails add up you might be in luck and still keep your 220w PSU. iNuke is good with the PSU's. I hope you don't have to up grade it. Good luck to you
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January 18, 2012 2:49:42 AM

the graphic cards i posted all the 3 inputs.. but the G100 only has 2 inputs..
it's just like the 9600GT. does my case only support super low profile cards?

and btw I can't dig in to see the rails
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January 18, 2012 2:56:00 AM

nope, it doesn't. i don't have the space.
right beside my PSU is my fan
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a c 181 U Graphics card
January 18, 2012 3:11:59 AM

BasisGeek said:
the graphic cards i posted all the 3 inputs.. but the G100 only has 2 inputs..
it's just like the 9600GT. does my case only support super low profile cards?

and btw I can't dig in to see the rails



So you can't see anywhere on the out side of your PSU any numbers or lettering? All PSU's are suppose to display how much power it takes in and how much power it puts out. If you can't read it you can't read it.
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a c 110 U Graphics card
January 18, 2012 3:17:01 AM

168 watts is the 12 volt you have to work with.

I think it is this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Delta-Electronics-DPS-220UB-2-B...

Your card will take 50 peak and game at about 30-40 watts with an idle under 10 watts.

I doubt that cpu takes the 65 watts it is rated at.

This looks promising.

I5 750(takes more power then your cpu) + your card + furmarks = 100 watts from the wall. That honestly works close to my i5 750 + 5770 + game = 140 watts from the wall.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

It is also important to note that your system being SSF is designed with lower power consumption in mind.

It would say you should be fairly good to give this a go. You will be about 20-30 watts higher with the new card.

But remember the card must be only 1 slot thick since you have no room for a 2 slot card.
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January 18, 2012 3:23:35 AM

so should i get the 6570 or the 430?
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a c 110 U Graphics card
January 18, 2012 3:36:38 AM

Those are 6670's and they are too thick they may hit the top of your case.

In a SFF case, fans are not a bad thing, but the card needs to have a single slot cooler.

Here is something interesting if you want to try a 6570

With a 2500K(again more power then your cpu)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6570-rade...
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a c 181 U Graphics card
January 18, 2012 3:41:19 AM

I think you can get a GT 430 with a fan in the Lowprofile type card. You just have to look around like amazon.com or tigerdirect.com or even compusa and I know there prices are high but it is a place to look.
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January 18, 2012 3:43:41 AM

where can i find those type of coolers?
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January 19, 2012 12:04:55 AM

bump?
please tell me which to buy, i have to process the order tonight
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a c 181 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 12:11:01 AM

Ok that PSU you are going to buy is one of the worst PSU's you could buy. It is on the tier 5. Those PSU's burn out real quick or it burns out your rig. One of the other. Here is a link to the brands you want to buy. Tier 1 is the best Tier 3 is border line good to bad and Tier 5 well you know the worst.

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

The best brands are Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, and XFX. Also you need to measure your PSU and compaire it with the one you are going to buy. In slim cases it might not fit like your graphic card if it was normal.

also the 6570 is the one to get
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January 19, 2012 12:21:50 AM

but its the only mini itx ones
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a c 181 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 12:38:37 AM

I guess if you have to. I will look and see id I can find anything before you order.
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a c 181 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 12:46:02 AM

After doing some exploring you are good to go on that one it turns out it is a tier 3 PSU. Get your order in.
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a c 110 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 12:50:53 AM

I have that case :) 

Your acer board may be too deep(or at least i would guess so). It is not a mini DTX board. it is some custom thing that is made to JUST fit the acer case.

Mini DTX board
Image from slashgear.com


Your board. As you can see, it is longer.
Image from esaitech.com


While there is a bit of space at the from of the SG05 case, i am not sure it is enough.
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January 19, 2012 12:53:29 AM

its 3.75"(H) x 7.95"(L) x 2" (W)..the one im using

EDIT: so.. now what?
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a c 110 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 1:04:39 AM

BasisGeek said:
its 3.75"(H) x 7.95"(L) x 2" (W)..the one im using

That's the power supply right? The one on the SG05 is much different.

SG05 power supply.
Image from ME!!!
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January 19, 2012 1:06:42 AM

yeah, my psu is a long rectangle

so now should i get the athena 400w battery?
from the comments, it seems fine
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a c 181 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 1:09:25 AM

BasisGeek said:
its 3.75"(H) x 7.95"(L) x 2" (W)..the one im using

EDIT: so.. now what?


the new PSU is 3.2 H x 6 L x 1.7 W why wouldn't it fit?
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January 19, 2012 1:10:50 AM

DM186 said:
the new PSU is 3.2 H x 6 L x 1.7 W why wouldn't it fit?

sry, my bad
its 3.75"(W) and 2"(H)

its too tall
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a c 110 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 1:12:22 AM

I recommend sticking with a card you can power. The 520 is not that good, the 430 or the 6570 should work.

Here is a compare from toms on the 2 cards. Note the power, but ignore the noise since the one was tested as a passive card.

http://bit.ly/xW1Rps

EDIT, even better all 3 cards you have looked at.

http://bit.ly/x8me0f

And remember, get a low profile card with a single slot thick heatsink.

Does your case have a vent on the top?
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a c 181 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 1:15:39 AM

nukemaster said:
I recommend sticking with a card you can power. The 520 is not that good, the 430 or the 6570 should work.

Here is a compare from toms on the 2 cards. Note the power, but ignore the noise since the one was tested as a passive card.

http://bit.ly/xW1Rps



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January 19, 2012 1:15:50 AM

k, ill get the radeon

now should i get the athena battery?
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January 19, 2012 1:28:24 AM

this is how it looks like
sry for the low resolution
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January 19, 2012 1:35:23 AM

nukemaster said:
I recommend sticking with a card you can power. The 520 is not that good, the 430 or the 6570 should work.

Here is a compare from toms on the 2 cards. Note the power, but ignore the noise since the one was tested as a passive card.

http://bit.ly/xW1Rps

EDIT, even better all 3 cards you have looked at.

http://bit.ly/x8me0f

And remember, get a low profile card with a single slot thick heatsink.

Does your case have a vent on the top?



a vent?



EDIT: it fits right?
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a c 110 U Graphics card
January 19, 2012 2:22:04 AM

Ok, lets clear this up as best I can.

The vent i was asking about would be on the top of the computer. It is just some holes in the case just like the ones on the back. If you have this, video card heat can get out of the case faster. From google, it looks like you have no vent on top, but do on the side. that should help

The card will fit as long as it is low profile and has only a single slot heatsink.

the low profile card is not as wide. The plugs are different because they are not for the same systems(one PCI-E and one AGP).

Again the card is not as wide. You can also see the heatsink on the low profile card does not hang past the metal plate.


A card like the one on the bottom will NOT work because the heatsink will hit the top of your case. The card is low profile, but too thick.
Image from hardwarecanucks.com

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January 19, 2012 2:28:59 AM

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