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March 23, 2012 7:25:39 PM

Hello Everyone,

I've decided I'm going to build my own PC for the first time to play D3. I'm strapped for cash so I have only a little over $300 to spend. I'm planning on recycling my optical drive and my hard drive to save some cash. Here's what I plan to buy:

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

First, I'd like to know if this is all ok in terms of compatibility or if you foresee any issues. I don't plan on playing with max everything, high detail with 900 res is fine with me.

Secondly, I'd like to know if when I recycle my HDD, if I could install install Win7 on it with my current computer and then when I actually place it in the new build, just start it up without tinkering with BIOS etc. Just a thought. I've never actually done this so any first time advice is gladly appreciated. I've tried to read into best bang for your buck builds, cable management, and watched a few videos to try and see what I've gotten myself into and this what I've come up with. It doesn't need to last forever, and it probably won't but then again I'm just a d3 fan. Thanks again

More about : 300 budget

March 23, 2012 7:56:19 PM

No, You MAY Get Lucky And Do That But Its A Pain And Pointless, Just Receycle The HDD And Install Windows 7 On The New Machine.

You Could Save Alot Of Money And Get More Performance By Going The AMD Route, And Use The $$ To Get A Better Graphics Card, For Example; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD Boards With More And Better Features Are Cheaper Than Intel Boards.

Just FYI Man, On A Budget You Will Get Better Overall Performance At A Budget From AMD.

Otherwise The Rest Of The Parts Are Quite Good.

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March 23, 2012 8:06:08 PM

Actually the CPU is very good. Sandybridge no less.
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March 23, 2012 8:10:59 PM

that's 372.94$ it's not bad but you don't get much out of your budget.

I'm more of the Intel right now but with your budget I agree with Hella-D AMD is the way to go to maximize your budget and not Intel. how does Llano sounds for you?

oh what type of HDD do you have? you might have those IDE hdd or something
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March 23, 2012 8:12:14 PM

Also, if you get a cheaper case, you can invest in a better GPU or more RAM.
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March 23, 2012 8:20:06 PM

Sorry, but the Pentium outperforms the 8core bulldozer. Check the benchmarks on Toms if you don't believe me. AMD doesn't offer anything for $80-$100 that outperforms the Pentium.

I used to love AMD, but Intel offers better performance. If AMD Piledriver turns out to be good, I'd buy it in a heartbeat over Intel.
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March 23, 2012 8:22:30 PM

Thanks everyone for your input.

OK, regarding the case, I like the fact I have good cable management solutions and good upgradeability options with it, and a whole lot of fans.

Regarding the Llano CPU, its a possibility, do you think I could run D3 smoothly with its 6530D? Lets say medium settings at 1440x900? And if so, could you recommend an adequate mobo for the same price with good upgrade options?

Regarding the mobo is your MSI a whole lot better than the ASrock? I have a 20 MIR with it so they're the same price. Thanks for the i3 heads up I might take that path.

My HDD and Optical drive are both SATA connections I opened them and checked!

And it terms of price after MIR right now im sitting at 312.94!
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March 23, 2012 8:27:25 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mobo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ram

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
psu

then just buy any gpu that's compatible with it to Crossfire (you only need 1 gpu to crossfire with an apu) it will give you better performance for the money.

Total = 289.95$ that's without buying a gpu but we can even go lower with that for D3

by changing the mobo to this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or if you really want your intel try this GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 23, 2012 8:30:17 PM

By D3 you mean Diablo 3 or Dirt 3? But no. Only at probably 720p with lowered settings. At 1440x900, you would have to put it at a lowest possible settings. If you can, you can get a cheaper GPU like the 6670 ( I have it currently) which should run it at 1440x900(same res. as me) pretty smooth at med. settings. ASRock is owned by ASUS and i haven't heard one negative thing about them.
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March 23, 2012 8:31:04 PM

Diablo 3 sorry for the confusion.
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March 23, 2012 8:32:27 PM

Tavo_Novas build is good, but again, the integrated graphics aren't that great for games.
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March 23, 2012 8:37:03 PM

My build currently features the ASUS EAH6670/DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5. I read it's better than the DDR3 version so for an extra 12 bucks I'll go with that. According the the hierarchy chart from March the i3-2120 beats all of the other AMD CPUS out there right now. I actually like AMD, but they can't compete at the moment.
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March 23, 2012 8:41:12 PM

this is a better build

btw i believe you can crossfire this with your APU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
for 54.99$ after rebate.

the nzxt case is awesome for the money, you can easily puncture some holes it in to customize it or something.

try out this

case:39.99$
nzxt source
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo: 64.99$
ASUS F1A55-M LX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu: 109.99$
MD A6-3650 Llano 2.6GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ram: 24.99$
Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

psu: 44.99$ (got 8$ off promo)
ORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

at 284.95$ without a GPU since you can use the on board one but if you want to add a gpu put this you can crossfire it with that system.

gpu" 69.99$>54.99$ after rebate
sapphire Radeon HD 6670
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

new total: 339.94$ (without the 08$ promo from the psu)

over all for 300$ this should give you a better bang for buck. there might be better mobo for a better price but this one sticks closer to your budget
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March 23, 2012 8:43:46 PM

actually for a better performance if he can easily fork out 500$ i would my self suggest an i3 2100 build up. and just stick to 6670 for 54.99$ should give him a great performance.

But I can say that. for gaming between a 300$ apu to a 500$ i3 there will be hardly any real time difference that you can notice.

We can see benchmarks = numbers, and all same thing when i do benchmarks on different systems to see how they perform I can see numbers I can notice the difference but let's face it 80% population can hardly notice the difference in gaming between a 300$ amd and a 500$ intel seeing as they would be using same gpu. and that 300$ has a crossfire it should perform a few fps better. and not like you would be playing at 1200p resolution at ultra settings with that kind of budget.

of course a 800$ system would punch out better performance overall but a 1000$ system would perform the same but with more headroom for upgrades. but of course there's a world difference between a 500$ intel gaming system against a 800$ intel gaming system >.<
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March 23, 2012 8:55:05 PM

migueldias25 said:
My build currently features the ASUS EAH6670/DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5. I read it's better than the DDR3 version so for an extra 12 bucks I'll go with that. According the the hierarchy chart from March the i3-2120 beats all of the other AMD CPUS out there right now. I actually like AMD, but they can't compete at the moment.


yeah man, my thoughts exactly.

i3 is quite a beast for gaming at u're resolution. If budget;s too tight, tthen I suggest getting cheaper mobos, coz overclocking will not be viable on a tight budget.
u may get a cheap h61 mobo from asrock or asus, both are fine.

and maybe pitch in a little for a 5770/6770. Its quite worth it.
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March 23, 2012 8:58:15 PM

obsama1 said:
performs worse than the 5570:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/5

Not as bad as I thought it would be. The APU is good for D3, but again, if you can, get a Pentium/i3 and squeeze in a 5570/6670/6570.


yeah. APUs are not much useful when it comes to gaming. i have an APU based build in my comm. lab and it struggles with '09 games at high resolutions.


Bottomline, dont get an APU for gaming. they're fine gr8 for offices and media centers. But when it comes to giving hardcore performance to gamers, they dont fare that well.
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March 23, 2012 9:04:04 PM

@gam0reily

let me ask you would you expect hardcore performance to gamers with 300$ budget?
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March 23, 2012 9:10:30 PM

300$ budget doesnt exactly qualify as gamers.
I had a similar budget 2 months back. But I saved up until I got to $550. Thats what I wanted.

Anyways, even for that budget, an gaming with the target, APUs are worse than FXs.
An FX 4100 outperforms a LLano easily, although with a discrete GPU.
But even if u r trying to save money, an APU's graphical performance will be quite a disappointment.
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March 23, 2012 9:22:34 PM

here's another variation for the i3 2100 system although you won't be using crossfire but just a single gpu should be everything you need at lower resolutions

psu: 44.99$ (-8$ promo)
CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case: 39.99$
NZXT Source
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: 69.99$>54.99$ after rebate
sapphire Radeon HD 6670 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu: 124.99$
intel i3 2100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

mobo: 69.99$
ASRock H61ICAFE LGA 1155 Intel H61 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

memory: 24.99$
Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

359.94$

if your an intel fanboy

I my self after testing them just now at 1440x900 resolution.
FPS Wise everything's great

but if your gaming at 1920x1080 or 1200p that would be different

these are for both apu/i3

just that with the crossfire of apu it gives a bit better performance fps wise.
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March 23, 2012 9:33:26 PM

well that's the budget range for you but it also depends on the people.

for me anything below 2500$ are not much as a gaming system and that's what I go by. but in the end it's just me.

the test i mentioned above are done in this platform

Intel
cpu:i3 2100
mobo: msi h67
gpu: sapphire 6670
psu: seasonic x1250 80plus gold (this is the only psu i have on stock without taking apart another system)
memory: G.skill 4gb2x2gb 1333
case: nzxt source white
hdd: wdcb 1tb 7200rpm 64mb cache

AMD
CPU: amd 3670K(this is the only one i have but on my test it will be more on GPU)
mobo: msi A75MA
gpu: sapphire 6670
psu: seasonic x1250 80plus gold (this is the only psu i have on stock without taking apart another system)
memory: G.skill 4gb2x2gb 1333
case: nzxt source white
hdd: wdcb 1tb 7200rpm 64mb cache

both are tested on a samsung monitor on a 1440x900 resolution.

GPU wise the crossfire scaled better than a single 6670 on the i3
but overall performance is great of course at low settings. since with your budget i doubt you would be playing at 1080p/1200p resolution with ultra high settings so i think you can just choose between those 2 and maybe do some mix/match on some mobo to lower down the price

Oh if your wondering I'm no AMD fan boy I'm more a Intel fan boy but we should look at real world price/performance ratio

But if you really looking forward for a great performance i do suggest going with a 500$-580$ budget and go for a 6850 sapphire GPU with an i3 2100 it would be a total beast for most people anyway.
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March 24, 2012 6:10:46 AM

Tavo_Nova said:


for me anything below 2500$ are not much as a gaming system and that's what I go by. but in the end it's just me.




2500$? hmmm. why dont we just get a limo to fit that in? [:fisshy:8]
but as u said, in the end, it's just you!
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March 24, 2012 7:46:04 AM

Personally If I were you I would look for used Nvidia Geforce 8800GT's for like 20 bucks and use one of those instead of the 6670. They are a better and cheaper card but do consume a bit more power. It would be a way to save money on the build and to get a bit better framerates.
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March 24, 2012 8:57:08 AM

@GAM0
yes it's just me well if its just the gaming box it would be at 2000 anything less for me is not much of a gaming machine the next 500 is for 3 monitors 23" at least. and I'm serious about that . well I see your one of the people who might go for bang for buck but I'm not on that side, I'm more on Performance first then quantity I don't care if it's my 1,000$ processor and I love it.

but TS has another option he can go for used cards but of course the dollar you pay for it is just that, you won't be able to expect great performance for that kind of money.


Note: New update

btw just now I finished running some temp test for the 2 builds above.

clearly amd runs really hot so if you live in a hot room then i totally suggest the i3 2100 build. although gpu performance wise you lose a bit FPS but i3 2100 is a solid choice.(crossfire on apu vs single card on i3)

stability wise: i3 2100 win's hands down, I'm talking about stable temp. but if you live in US and it snows like crazy and well not really but if you got a great room temp then any of the 2 is a great choice. It all comes down which one you like better the APU or the i3.

note: If it were me I would surely get the i3 2100 from Intel build. I like red color but I'm on the Blue side. these would be the reasons

i3 2100 = if by chance you want to upgrade to a i5 2500K cpu you can of course even with a h67 mobo it works. so that's +1 reasons
+2 = i3 with its cpu power only just whooped apu's ass like it was a girl in a bucket no If's or But's.
|3 = If you are already upgrading to an i5 2500k build or any good i5 ivy bridge build, selling your motherboard and processor is much much x10000 easier than selling an APU motherboard/cpu this is proven already by many people not only in toms but to a huge population (we got more intel fan boys than amd fan boys and not only that, based on review of course the i3 2100 has better cpu power than the apu just that with the apu you can crossfire your gpu just that) so with that in mind if your going to sell the intel i3 2100 and the h67/h61 mobo cheap(since it's used) there are some people who would really buy compared to selling an apu + motherboard. since your upgrading i doubt you would upgrade your gpu since that gpu should still be a great card at of course lower resolutions but then if you don't have much money, upgrading the cpu and mobo is a wise choice then just upgrade the gpu later.
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March 24, 2012 4:25:12 PM

hi everyone

thank you for all of your input. Ill be building this before the diablo 3 release in late april or early may so maybe ill be able to get some better deals then. i deff think im gonna go with the i3 build, either the 2100 or the 2120 depending on how much i can put together by then with a h67 mobo and then plan on upgrading. maybe after i might be able to grab an i5 after the release of ivy bridge, we'll see. the part that turned me off was the fact that you mention the apu set ran hot, which im not really excited about. i dont plan on oc'ing anything, ive never done it, and i dont need to run ultra setting on max res at 60 fps. med setting medium res at 30 fps is fine. ill probably forego a more expensive gpu to get an i3 then maybe snag a 6850 down the road if i can.

again thank you very much for all your positive contributions

EDIT

For the sake of seeing how low I can go i managed to push it even lower.

MOBO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Same case, ram, and PSU, total before MIR 329.95-$35 in MIR = ~$295!
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March 25, 2012 10:49:37 AM

migueldias25 said:
Hello Everyone,

I've decided I'm going to build my own PC for the first time to play D3. I'm strapped for cash so I have only a little over $300 to spend. I'm planning on recycling my optical drive and my hard drive to save some cash. Here's what I plan to buy:

Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

First, I'd like to know if this is all ok in terms of compatibility or if you foresee any issues. I don't plan on playing with max everything, high detail with 900 res is fine with me.

Secondly, I'd like to know if when I recycle my HDD, if I could install install Win7 on it with my current computer and then when I actually place it in the new build, just start it up without tinkering with BIOS etc. Just a thought. I've never actually done this so any first time advice is gladly appreciated. I've tried to read into best bang for your buck builds, cable management, and watched a few videos to try and see what I've gotten myself into and this what I've come up with. It doesn't need to last forever, and it probably won't but then again I'm just a d3 fan. Thanks again



replace that board with MSI H61M-P21 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard for 58$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that cpu with g850 for 88$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or keep this i3-2100 for 100$
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

that gpu with hd7750 for 110$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that psu and case with Broadway Com Corp 1243MA-BLACK for 37$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
or with LOGISYS Computer CS308RD for 38$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

you can keep that Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) ram for 25$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EQUALS 318-331$ [:truegenius:7]
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March 25, 2012 2:00:56 PM

hey truegenius thanks for your input.

just a couple of remarks about your build. the gpu you put in req a pci 3.0 slot, and the biostar mobo i have has better reviews and i cheaper than yours. As far as the case and the psu, i know im taking the more expensive route, but i wanna have some upgrade ability if i get some money in my hands and it'd cost me more money in the long run.
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March 25, 2012 3:24:07 PM

migueldias25 said:
hey truegenius thanks for your input.

just a couple of remarks about your build. the gpu you put in req a pci 3.0 slot, and the biostar mobo i have has better reviews and i cheaper than yours. As far as the case and the psu, i know im taking the more expensive route, but i wanna have some upgrade ability if i get some money in my hands and it'd cost me more money in the long run.


get the 6770 instead. It has better reviews I think.
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March 25, 2012 3:29:15 PM

no problem :) 
v3 card are compatible with 2.
For upgrade route, what about a z68 board. And may omit gpu now.
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March 25, 2012 3:38:22 PM

Remember, Diablo 3 isnt going to be out until May 15th. So you have time to save up a little more perhaps before then?
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March 25, 2012 4:12:19 PM

Oh I know, I'm hoping the Ivy bridge release will cause the i5 2500 price to drop and maybe the 6850 will drop a little too, and I can grab them both and keep my build under 400 :D  All in due time. I won't be buying anything until about 2 weeks before launch, so I can get everything up and running even if I have to RMA, so I have time. But it is nice to just get some ideas flowing so when the time comes I can be sure about my purchases and be sure the end result is what I wanted it to be.

If not, I have looked into the 6770 suggestion, thank you gam0reiily for mentioning it!

As far a a z68 board, going to look into it now, I was goig the h61 route just for price reasons, and thanks for clarifying that truegenius.

I've never actually built a PC, although I'm pretty good at figuring stuff out, do you guys have any tips for first time builders? What were the main problems you encountered, or what did you do that perhaps made you build easier???
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March 26, 2012 7:52:00 AM

migueldias25 said:


If not, I have looked into the 6770 suggestion, thank you gam0reiily for mentioning it!

As far a a z68 board, going to look into it now, I was goig the h61 route just for price reasons, and thanks for clarifying that truegenius.



U're always welcome! :D 

And about the z68, its a gr8 board only because it allows CPU + GPU overclocking, has 4 RAM slots, etc. Since u might not be getting a 2500k under that budget, only GPU tweaking will be ur option. And as I suggested, if u took a 4GB stick now, and added another 4GB to it later, u'd have a total of 8GB, which is a very adequate memory limit.

So, a H61 should not be any problem for that. Plus, it's almost twice as cheap as a decent Z68 board. And gaming depends 99% on the components u put on the board, and not the board itself! [:aford10:6]
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April 1, 2012 9:15:32 PM

Best answer selected by migueldias25.
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nThanks everyone who contributed. Unfortunately extenuating circumstances didn't allow me to even purchase that build so I had to just do a GPU update on my aging Dell 530s (E2180, 2gb DDR2-800) and bought a LP HD6570 for 42 bucks after MIR.
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May 15, 2012 11:46:12 AM

Tavo_Nova said:
@GAM0
yes it's just me well if its just the gaming box it would be at 2000 anything less for me is not much of a gaming machine the next 500 is for 3 monitors 23" at least. and I'm serious about that . well I see your one of the people who might go for bang for buck but I'm not on that side, I'm more on Performance first then quantity I don't care if it's my 1,000$ processor and I love it.

but TS has another option he can go for used cards but of course the dollar you pay for it is just that, you won't be able to expect great performance for that kind of money.


Note: New update

btw just now I finished running some temp test for the 2 builds above.

clearly amd runs really hot so if you live in a hot room then i totally suggest the i3 2100 build. although gpu performance wise you lose a bit FPS but i3 2100 is a solid choice.(crossfire on apu vs single card on i3)

stability wise: i3 2100 win's hands down, I'm talking about stable temp. but if you live in US and it snows like crazy and well not really but if you got a great room temp then any of the 2 is a great choice. It all comes down which one you like better the APU or the i3.

note: If it were me I would surely get the i3 2100 from Intel build. I like red color but I'm on the Blue side. these would be the reasons

i3 2100 = if by chance you want to upgrade to a i5 2500K cpu you can of course even with a h67 mobo it works. so that's +1 reasons
+2 = i3 with its cpu power only just whooped apu's ass like it was a girl in a bucket no If's or But's.
|3 = If you are already upgrading to an i5 2500k build or any good i5 ivy bridge build, selling your motherboard and processor is much much x10000 easier than selling an APU motherboard/cpu this is proven already by many people not only in toms but to a huge population (we got more intel fan boys than amd fan boys and not only that, based on review of course the i3 2100 has better cpu power than the apu just that with the apu you can crossfire your gpu just that) so with that in mind if your going to sell the intel i3 2100 and the h67/h61 mobo cheap(since it's used) there are some people who would really buy compared to selling an apu + motherboard. since your upgrading i doubt you would upgrade your gpu since that gpu should still be a great card at of course lower resolutions but then if you don't have much money, upgrading the cpu and mobo is a wise choice then just upgrade the gpu later.


hi tavo....i just read your two build spcifications....i also want to build pc for 300 dollars...because m short of cash too....i will be playing t4c and d3....i would like to go for i3 because i plan to upgrade in future...also i am in hurry to build like in 2-3 days...because my graphic card died yesterday ...please suggest some compatible options with in 300 dollars for now with room to upgrade later...every one is welcome to contribute....thank u
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