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July 7, 2012 1:52:19 PM

I know the game is all about the graphic card right? so people said that even i7 isn't that necessary.

So I'm planning to create a Budget gaming next 2 weeks because what do you know?? IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!! :D D
Anyways If i'm going for i3 I have a chance to buy gtx 550 ti SLI. RIGHT SLI I CAN BUY 2 GTX 550 ti
BUTT!! If you guys recommend me to buy i5 I can only just buy 1 550 ti.

So whats the best thing to buy? that i3 or i5.
OH yess Another question. will that i3 bottleneck on that 2 gtx 550?

Budget is $700

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July 7, 2012 2:08:08 PM

i5 is better for gaming.
a single 6870 or 7850 will be better than sli 550ti in the long run.
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July 7, 2012 2:14:18 PM

Yeah, Get an i5 + HD 6870/GTX 560 Ti
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July 7, 2012 2:24:44 PM

de5_Roy said:
i5 is better for gaming.
a single 6870 or 7850 will be better than sli 550ti in the long run.

You serious?? how about gtx 560 ti? How is it?
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July 7, 2012 2:26:12 PM

I prefer Nvidia not ati Sorry guys :( (
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July 7, 2012 2:26:43 PM

7850 is better performer than 560ti. only thing 7850 lacks is physx support. 2gb 560ti and 7850 are priced similarly. in some cases, especially with reference design, 7850 is cheaper.
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July 7, 2012 2:28:53 PM

MUCH better than the 550ti.
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July 7, 2012 2:46:01 PM

fajardokier said:
I know the game is all about the graphic card right? so people said that even i7 isn't that necessary.

So I'm planning to create a Budget gaming next 2 weeks because what do you know?? IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!! :D D
Anyways If i'm going for i3 I have a chance to buy gtx 550 ti SLI. RIGHT SLI I CAN BUY 2 GTX 550 ti
BUTT!! If you guys recommend me to buy i5 I can only just buy 1 550 ti.

So whats the best thing to buy? that i3 or i5.
OH yess Another question. will that i3 bottleneck on that 2 gtx 550?

Budget is $700


1- is the i3 a very good budget gaming CPU? yes, see chart below as it distances itself from much of the AMD competition
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

2- is the i5 better for gaming and worth the extra cash over the i3? yes

3- will the 550ti in SLI & i3 outperform a single GTX550ti & i5 in gaming? yes

4 - will the i3 be able to keep up with the GTX550ti in SLI? it really depends on the exact game. Some games it will be fine while others the GTX550ti may not hit peak performance in SLI.

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July 7, 2012 2:57:47 PM

ct1615 said:
1- is the i3 a very good budget gaming CPU? yes, see chart below as it distances itself from much of the AMD competition
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

2- is the i5 better for gaming and worth the extra cash over the i3? yes

3- will the 550ti in SLI & i3 outperform a single GTX550ti & i5 in gaming? yes

4 - will the i3 be able to keep up with the GTX550ti in SLI? it really depends on the exact game. Some games it will be fine while others the GTX550ti may not hit peak performance in SLI.

Well what do you suggest me then? do you think 2 gtx 550 ti is better than gtx 560? or i'll stick up with 560 ti
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July 7, 2012 3:01:33 PM

550ti sli is obviously more powerful than a single 560ti in terms of raw performance.
at your budget, it's better to go with a single powerful card and add another down the line.
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July 7, 2012 3:11:50 PM

fajardokier said:
Well what do you suggest me then? do you think 2 gtx 550 ti is better than gtx 560? or i'll stick up with 560 ti


personally I would go with the i5 & GTX560ti, even something like the i5-2400 makes an excellent gaming CPU
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/363?vs=434

I don't like SLI since it creates extra heat, need more power, and can have driver/game support issues.


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July 7, 2012 3:21:28 PM

Ive got the i5-2400 and 560ti and it runs any game at maximum graphics flawlessly. Definitely go with an i5!
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July 7, 2012 3:25:58 PM

So guys how about i7? If i'm going to buy i7 Then I cannot buy a gpu :) ) Is it waste of money?
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July 7, 2012 3:32:35 PM

fajardokier said:
So guys how about i7? If i'm going to buy i7 Then I cannot buy a gpu :) ) Is it waste of money?

for gaming and at your budget, kinda.. :) 
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July 7, 2012 3:36:06 PM

I say get the AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE.

At stock it trades blows with the i3 2100 at gaming, but outside of gaming, the Phenom II trashes the i3.
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July 7, 2012 3:38:06 PM

HOW ABOUT THIS?? i5 and gtx 560 ti period!! Is it worth it now?
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July 7, 2012 3:40:51 PM

MajinCry said:
I say get the AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE.

At stock it trades blows with the i3 2100 at gaming, but outside of gaming, the Phenom II trashes the i3.


trashes?? :pfff: 

lets look at actual fact rather then idiot fan boy opinions, looks like the phenom II x4 does better in video encoding and barley nothing else

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=289
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July 7, 2012 3:46:53 PM

fajardokier said:
HOW ABOUT THIS?? i5 and gtx 560 ti period!! Is it worth it now?

i5 and 560ti is a good combo.
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July 7, 2012 4:31:04 PM

i5 - 2400 and 560ti for ur budget..
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July 7, 2012 5:03:47 PM

anirudh1 said:
i5 - 2400 and 560ti for ur budget..

I have this setup and you wont be unhappy with it. Any game, maximum graphics!
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July 7, 2012 5:27:05 PM

If you get an i5 2500K you can overclock the hell out of it easy and it will serve you much longer than an i3. I think it's a wise choice for CPU. If you want to get a 560ti then try get a 448 core one if possible because it performs like 570 ti but is cheaper. If not then try get one with 2GB of VRAM. 1GB is not enough these days unless you play games on a really small monitor. Just for reference, BF3 takes up 1.5GB of VRAM when I play it on high (not ultra) settings without any AA. Yeh...

Hope you're happy with whatever you pick ;) 
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July 7, 2012 10:28:04 PM

fajardokier said:
I know the game is all about the graphic card right? so people said that even i7 isn't that necessary.


You're right in gaming it is mostly about the video card not the CPU. That doesn't mean though that you should compleatly ignore the CPU, you can't put a Pentium 4 with 7970 and expect it to play Crysis or BF3. You need an even balence between CPU and video card. For gaming an I7 is overkill because you are spending an extra hundred dollars on hyperthreading and extra cache, two things that games don't make use of right now. The I3 is good for gaming but in certain games like BF3 it will start to bottleneck. I would spend a little extra and get an I5 2500k.

fajardokier said:
So I'm planning to create a Budget gaming next 2 weeks because what do you know?? IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!! :D D
Anyways If i'm going for i3 I have a chance to buy gtx 550 ti SLI. RIGHT SLI I CAN BUY 2 GTX 550 ti
BUTT!! If you guys recommend me to buy i5 I can only just buy 1 550 ti.


Like I said above I would go with the I5. The GTX 550 is at this point pretty useless in gaming. It was middle of the road when it was released and now it's a generation old. It would be pointless to take two old, kind of weak video cards ans SLI them. You would be better off spending the money on one powerful video card like a GTX 670.

fajardokier said:
So whats the best thing to buy? that i3 or i5.


The I5
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July 8, 2012 2:55:52 AM

rds1220 said:
You're right in gaming it is mostly about the video card not the CPU. That doesn't mean though that you should compleatly ignore the CPU, you can't put a Pentium 4 with 7970 and expect it to play Crysis or BF3. You need an even balence between CPU and video card. For gaming an I7 is overkill because you are spending an extra hundred dollars on hyperthreading and extra cache, two things that games don't make use of right now. The I3 is good for gaming but in certain games like BF3 it will start to bottleneck. I would spend a little extra and get an I5 2500k.



Like I said above I would go with the I5. The GTX 550 is at this point pretty useless in gaming. It was middle of the road when it was released and now it's a generation old. It would be pointless to take two old, kind of weak video cards ans SLI them. You would be better off spending the money on one powerful video card like a GTX 670.



The I5

Okay! so let's compute it. my budget is $700
In here the gtx 560 ti is $199 but its (Gtx 560 ti PALIT) is palit good??
And I'll pick i5 3570k which is the latest one or also known as ivy bridge which is about $240
And motherboard probably i'll spend $150
For ram maybe $50
And powersupply for about $65
Total $704 "I'll just beg my mom to give me 4 dollars :) 
So anyway is it worth it now? Will that setup make happy?
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July 8, 2012 3:06:37 AM

IMO there is no point in getting the Ivy Bridges CPU. Yes it is better but it's only a slight increase in performance. The biggest difference is that Ivy Bridges has better integrated graphics something you aren't even going to use as a gamer becuase you'll be using a dedicated video card. I would just get the 2500K. It should be about 10 dollars cheaper and is still more than good enough for all of todays games. The video card can still needs work. The 560 will work for now but don't expect to be playing Crysis or BF3 on ultra high resoltions with ultra high settings.
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July 8, 2012 3:13:08 AM

rds1220 said:
IMO there is no point in getting the Ivy Bridges CPU. Yes it is better but it's only a slight increase in performance. The biggest difference is that Ivy Bridges has better integrated graphics something you aren't even going to use as a gamer becuase you'll be using a dedicated video card. I would just get the 2500K. It should be about 10 dollars cheaper and is still more than good enough for all of todays games. The video card can still needs work. The 560 will work for now but don't expect to be playing Crysis or BF3 on ultra high resoltions with ultra high settings.

Okay!! I get your point. we're almost done here. I like sandy bridge too you know soooo The final answer is i5 2500k sandy bridge and i'll just overclock it to get same performance as the ivy bridge?
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July 8, 2012 3:15:10 AM

rds1220 said:
IMO there is no point in getting the Ivy Bridges CPU. Yes it is better but it's only a slight increase in performance. The biggest difference is that Ivy Bridges has better integrated graphics something you aren't even going to use as a gamer becuase you'll be using a dedicated video card. I would just get the 2500K. It should be about 10 dollars cheaper and is still more than good enough for all of todays games. The video card can still needs work. The 560 will work for now but don't expect to be playing Crysis or BF3 on ultra high resoltions with ultra high settings.

And 1 more question sorry. Which motherboard should I get? z68 or z77 remember I'm now going to buy that i5 2500k
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July 8, 2012 3:16:03 AM

Yes. Both CPU's have an unlocked multiplier and getting the 2500K to run at the same speed and performance of Ivy Bridges is very, very easy.
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July 8, 2012 3:57:58 AM

rds1220 said:
Yes. Both CPU's have an unlocked multiplier and getting the 2500K to run at the same speed and performance of Ivy Bridges is very, very easy.

But uses ~20W more power under load.
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July 8, 2012 4:16:26 AM

Meh sure the Sandy Bridges uses 20 Watts more power but it isn't going to put a huge dent in your eletric bill. Also lets not forget that Ivy Bridges might use less power but runs hotter when overclocked because of the thermal paste they used in place of fluxless solder.
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July 8, 2012 4:31:37 AM

rds1220 said:
Also lets not forget that Ivy Bridges might use less power but runs hotter when overclocked because of the thermal paste they used in place of fluxless solder.

The thermal paste is only part of the reason.

At least as important is the simple physical fact that the smaller CPU cores have higher power density and pack that power closer to the thermal diode which is inevitably going to cause the diode to record higher local hotspot temperatures regardless of whether the IHS is soldered or pasted on, which is likely why IB got a 105C TJmax.

In any case, it is a little early in the day to discuss 2500k/3570k overclocking for an OP who had seriously been considering going with i3 until half-way through this thread. Either i5 is already overkill for most current games even at stock clock.
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July 8, 2012 4:37:37 AM

For now yea but games are starting to get more CPU demanding as we see with the I3 in BF3. Yea it can play Bf3 but in 64 player multiplayer maps it starts to stuggle. I really don't see the I5 as overkill for a gaming build it will play pretty much all games with little to no problems. If the I5 was overkill for gaming it wouldn't be recommended by so many people.
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July 8, 2012 4:52:26 AM

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July 8, 2012 5:04:54 AM

rds1220 said:
If the I5 was overkill for gaming it wouldn't be recommended by so many people.

Recommending is one thing, being necessary is another.

How many wide-audience games require more than dual-core to achieve reasonable playability? None that I can think of.

I would generally recommend going with i5 over i3 too simply out of geek pride as long as it fits in whoever asks' budget without compromising something else that may be more important.
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July 17, 2012 1:24:34 PM

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