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E5200 OC Vs. G630 Vs. i3-2100

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July 7, 2012 5:44:35 PM

So I am working on a budget gaming build for my cousin and I was initially planned on using an i3 for him. However I then noticed that the 1155 Pentiums were cheaper and would probably get the job done. BUT, then I realized I have an E5200 that is close to the Gxxx series of Pentiums.

After some research, I found that it supposedly overclocks like a beast. Also if he wanted to upgrade later, it seems there are plenty of great options.

Some info:

-We got a GTX 460 Superclocked (For $90!)
-It would use an ASRock G41M-S3 LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Mobo
-It would have 2x2 GB of 1333 RAM

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So is this a good idea?
How easy is it to OC an E5200 to 3.2+ GHz, and would it perform at least near to an i3? If not, how much less?
Anything else I should know or suggestions?




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July 7, 2012 6:06:57 PM

You should never bet on overclocking when building a computer. The best solution is the i3 hands down.
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July 7, 2012 6:16:30 PM

The G series Pentiums outperform the E5200 by alot.
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July 7, 2012 6:18:41 PM

the wolfdale E5XXX overclock well and should hit 3ghz+ easy. you can use the Pentium E5800 or E6700* (slightly higher FSB) as a comparison tools.

*not to be confused with the Core 2 Duo E6700

http://reviews-tests.com/cpu_processors/Intel/Core_i3-5...

if you already own the mobo & RAM, the E5200 makes sense as a budget CPU otherwise I would go for the socket 1155 CPUs as even a slower Pentium G is a good deal faster then a faster Pentium wolfdale

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/406?vs=94





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July 7, 2012 10:14:35 PM

Pinhedd said:
You should never bet on overclocking when building a computer. The best solution is the i3 hands down.


But it costs ~$120. How much worse would an E5200 at 3.2+ GHz be? Are there not good core 2 duo's he could upgrade to later?
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July 8, 2012 12:50:05 AM

CaptainTom said:
But it costs ~$120. How much worse would an E5200 at 3.2+ GHz be? Are there not good core 2 duo's he could upgrade to later?


It could very well be a $120 disappointment or worse, a $120 paperweight
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July 8, 2012 1:05:29 AM

CaptainTom said:
But it costs ~$120. How much worse would an E5200 at 3.2+ GHz be? Are there not good core 2 duo's he could upgrade to later?


i would not build a PC based on a dead socket (775) expecting future upgrades. if you are lucky enough to find a used CPU to upgrade to, it would cost a pretty penny compared to modern CPU performance. I would definitely go with a socket 1155 build if that the case.
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July 8, 2012 5:14:52 AM

ct1615 said:
i would not build a PC based on a dead socket (775) expecting future upgrades. if you are lucky enough to find a used CPU to upgrade to, it would cost a pretty penny compared to modern CPU performance. I would definitely go with a socket 1155 build if that the case.


Well the reason I say that is I found 3.0 GHz quad core P4 with 8MB cache on ebay for around $250. I feel like that is reasonable. Also would a Core 2 Duo work in the 775 socket type?

And really is an i3 worth $80+ more than a 3.5 GHz E5200?

Thank You all btw...
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July 8, 2012 5:21:55 AM

CaptainTom said:

And really is an i3 worth $80+ more than a 3.5 GHz E5200?


YES!
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July 8, 2012 5:27:41 AM

Pinhedd said:
It could very well be a $120 disappointment or worse, a $120 paperweight

Paperweights?

I use an Opteron 2356 and a Pentium 4 SL7PX for that!
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July 8, 2012 5:33:36 AM

i somehow feel that you are misunderstanding that a 3.0 ghz on one processor does not equal 3.0 ghz of another processor.

clock for clock that e5200 does not match the sandy bridge architecture.

not by a long shot
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July 8, 2012 8:55:30 AM

amuffin said:
Paperweights?

I use an Opteron 2356 and a Pentium 4 SL7PX for that!
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7350/img32161.jpg


I use end-of-life HP rackmount servers :)  That paper isn't going anywhere! Oh how I wish HP made their laptops like they make their enterprise goods.
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July 8, 2012 11:50:01 AM

CaptainTom said:
Well the reason I say that is I found 3.0 GHz quad core P4 with 8MB cache on ebay for around $250.

Thank You all btw...


P4... as in Pentium 4 or AMD Phenom X4? Because there is no such thing as a quad-core Pentium 4.

Yes, Core 2 Duo will work in LGA 775 socket, but only with compatible motherboards. Same socket doesn't mean same support.

i3 will be better than the E5200. :) 
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July 8, 2012 2:16:13 PM

dane332 said:
i somehow feel that you are misunderstanding that a 3.0 ghz on one processor does not equal 3.0 ghz of another processor.

clock for clock that e5200 does not match the sandy bridge architecture.

not by a long shot


I understand that. Not only does the i3 have much more cache, it is just flat out faster. However if I get the E5200 to 3.5-4.0 GHz, would it beat or nearly match the G860?
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July 8, 2012 7:18:37 PM

Pinhedd said:
I use end-of-life HP rackmount servers :)  That paper isn't going anywhere! Oh how I wish HP made their laptops like they make their enterprise goods.

Dat X86..
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July 8, 2012 8:46:44 PM

CaptainTom said:
I understand that. Not only does the i3 have much more cache, it is just flat out faster. However if I get the E5200 to 3.5-4.0 GHz, would it beat or nearly match the G860?

there is no guarantee you can get that E5200 up that high and having a G41 chipset, no it won't. chipsets face limitations when increasing the front side bus.
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July 8, 2012 11:05:36 PM

Quote:
can't happen..

p45 chipset!
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July 8, 2012 11:18:07 PM

had a E5300 up to 3.8 without breaking a sweat with a heatsink from a Q6600 . . . 1.25 volts (or there abouts) 35c idle 72c load. i still have that chip in a drawer.
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July 8, 2012 11:19:14 PM

I have a brand new E4300 in the garage :D 

Next year I'm going to upgrade my dad's pc from his Q9650 to a Haswell chip :p 

E8400 user here too!
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July 8, 2012 11:36:45 PM

^ you go through CPUs like an "escort" goes through "clients"
5lu7!
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July 9, 2012 4:46:49 AM

Best answer selected by CaptainTom.
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July 9, 2012 4:47:39 AM

Ok we are going with an i3-2120! Thank you all!
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