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Need Advice: ~$2000+ VM / Photo & Video Editting / Gaming Rig

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March 25, 2012 11:14:50 AM

I am currently in the process of putting together a wish list of components to build a new "power-performance user / enthusiast-ish" computer. Furthermore, the last computer I built was back in 2001, so I guess you could consider me a born again virgin in regards to all the new PC advancements. During the interim I have just used that old machine or my Dell Inspiron 1521 laptop (that I've taken apart and cleaned up / replaced components on several times).

Bottom Line Up Front (BLUF): What recommendations do all of you have in regards to the wish list of components? Any inefficiencies noticed or better choices you can think of?

Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP, within a week; I'll purchase everything the moment I'm confident I have a good build with compatible components.

Budget Range: ~$2000+, I'm not really constrained financially.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Virtualization (I intend to run multiple, networked VMs on the machine), Gaming, Network testing (i.e. using GNS3 for CCNP+ level testing) Photo/Video Editting, Internet, Home office use

Parts Not Required: Everything is required, however, I'm not hard pressed on trying to select a mouse, monitor, and keyboard combo.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com; a few peers suggested tigetdirect.com, but I've never used it.

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: ASUS Mobo w/ Z68 chipset, Intel Processors, nVidia GPUs

Overclocking: Yes, I want to in order to optimize the machine and learn, however, I've never attempted it before.

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, eventually down the road I will probably look at running dual cards. As for right now, I'd love to have a (3) monitor display, but I think I'll be limited with only (1) GTX-570 (not sure).

Monitor Resolution: Not sure...

Additional Comments: Everyone likes things that look nice and so do I, however, performance is the priority first and foremost... Much like my 2009 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi I've personally tricked out, but that is discussion for a different community. :D  Also, if I can keep it semi-quiet and cool that would be great. Finally, I eventually intend to run a RAID 10 config if at all possible, but it isn't a requirement immediately.


All in all, I intend to use the machine to host multiple VM's that I can potentially access throughout my home LAN for personal use and network capability training. I am a little bit of a gamer; my preferred games would be WH40K and SC2 (most RTS's) when I actually have the time. Finally, the photo and video editting is more for my wife since she supplements our income with photography/videography on the side.

As soon as I have all the P's a Q's worked out, I want to purchase all the components and get to building immediately. I tend to be really busy with work/continuing education, so if I don't sit down and build it all in one sitting it will take a week or two to finish. I am not really intimidated with putting together the components so much (I am an engineer by education), but the whole overclocking business is completely foreign to me. I have attached my Newegg wish list below. On further inspection you'll notice that I have multiple full tower cases listed, because I wasn't sure which I should go for. I'm open for opinions on all components and recommendations, but I have been pretty set on going z68.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...
March 25, 2012 4:06:18 PM

hey op can you increase your budget to 3000$ as if you are not bound to budget
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March 25, 2012 4:40:46 PM

Serial killer,

I probably can raise my price point up to $3000, but wouldn't really want to go beyond that at this moment just because... For the most part I want to build something that is capable of operating VM Workstation with about 3 VMs consistently and has the ability to handle all the current games satisfactorily; however, I want the components (namely mobo) to be forward leaning so I can upgrade incrementally over the year and then finally end with a maxed out system. So, first, I just need it to function at my desired baseline first and then I'll expand from there... Nonetheless, throw any and all ideas you have because I am all ears considering many of you guys have built out rigs on a regular basis and I have not.

Also, I plan on running Windows 7 Pro as my OS along with MS Office 10 Pro and a suite of other home business applications.
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March 25, 2012 5:31:54 PM

Why do you need to have a single PC to do all of this ? .. How about using multiple (as built) rackmount servers , sufficient enough to virtualize and using NAS as your storage option ,
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March 25, 2012 6:36:55 PM

I chose x79 as you can upgrade tje processor to 6 core and x79 has 10 pci lanes so no performance detoriation while running multiple monitor.

If you think that this is very costly then i wojld build a cheaper and productive build which would have quality components and future upgradiblity.

If you want z68 then say it.

3 gb of vram is good thats why i listed hd7950 or if you want a cheaper card then hd 7870 or gtx 650 ti will be your best. i highly recomend gtx 680 which will last you quite a timd and also has cuda which will aid video editing but those are not availabe right now.


I will post another build tomorrow.

And now i go to sleep. tomorrow us a big day for me :D 
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March 25, 2012 8:21:45 PM

Quote:
here
https://secure.newegg.com/WishList/MySavedWishDetail.as...

its a 2000$ build, Z68 motherboard, CPU is i7 2600k wich will help you A LOT in virtualization since it has hyper-treathing, RAM is CRAZY FAST @ 2133Mhz, monitor is one of the best on the market, excellent power supply, very decent case it will keep your build reaaaally cool, oh and most important, its has a AMD 7970 BUT, i recomend you waiting until the GTX 680 becomes avaliable again because its faster than the 7970 and 50$ cheaper

EDIT: let me know if you are willing to spend another 500$ on this build, i will help you get faster parts


do NOT get a 2600k

the op mentioned this rig would be used for VM. the K model 1055 cpus have vt-d DISABLED. vt-d allows you to directly tie components into a virtual machine. ie you could use a seperate gpu for just the VM. directly. no funny business. could use the gpu off the 2600k for a VM while using your discrete GPU for your main OS.

i repeat, VT-d is disabled on the 1055 K series cpus. its enabled on the regular cpus though.
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March 25, 2012 9:05:39 PM

Total $3,124

Case - $ 270 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - $ 12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 150 - Corsair HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 905 - ASUS Sabetooth X79 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - incl - Intel Core i7-3930k Inc w/ above
Cooler - $ 90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 170 - (4 x 4GB) Muskin Redline DDR3 1600 CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 500 - Asus GTX 680 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - Later - Asus GTX 680 Same
HD - $ 240 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 64MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $ 279 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor - $ 290 - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" 120 Hz Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor - Later - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" 120 Hz Monitor
Monitor - Later - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" 120 Hz Monitor
Keyboard - $ 95 - Logitech G510 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse - $ 60 - Logitech G500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 25, 2012 9:12:01 PM

Alternate Z68 $2,724 build

Case - $ 270 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - $ 12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 150 - Corsair HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 685 - ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - $ 320 - Intel Core i7-2700K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $ 90 - Phanteks PH-TC14PE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 170 - (4 x 4GB) Muskin Redline DDR3 1600 CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - incl - Asus GTX 680 Included w/ MoBo
GFX - $ 0 - Asus GTX 680 Same
HD - $ 240 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB 64MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $ 279 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor - $ 290 - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" 120 Hz Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor - Later - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" 120 Hz Monitor
Monitor - Later - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" 120 Hz Monitor
Keyboard - $ 95 - Logitech G510 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse - $ 60 - Logitech G500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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March 26, 2012 2:15:05 AM

Thank you for all the different input! It is greatly appreciated! I am going to toy with a couple of wish lists; I am going review my z68 one and put together an x79 one for comparison. Also, I have a very stupid question that I have been trying to figure out... One of my peers said that I would be limited on my RAM selections due to my processor choice. I.E. Despite if I go with a great mobo that can utilize 2000+ MHz RAM, I wouldn't be able to use anything faster than 1333 if I used an i7-2700k because that is the top it can handle according to Dell's website. Now, personally, I think he is wrong, but I Don't know the 'why' behind it (if that makes any sense).

Also, Neon Neophyte, you mentioned that ALL z68 K series chips have VT-d disabled? I wasn't able to find that anywhere in online discussions or vm forums.
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March 26, 2012 2:20:23 AM

Also, what is everyone's take on AMD boards and graphics cards? My one peer (the one who brought up the RAM issue I mentioned above) swears by AMD due to cost and thinks that Intel / nVidia essentially worthless due to cost factors in his eyes. Whereas my other peer swears by Intel / Asus / nVidia because of there reliability and the fact that he thinks he is helping fund terrorism in some way if hey buys AMD (he is slightly joking when he says that). Nonetheless, I wanted to see your opinions because I know when I return to work tomorrow both of them will probably come over to my office to see what I thought about...
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March 26, 2012 2:25:45 AM

Consider this: The G630, which is a lower end SB CPU based on the 1155 Socket, will outperform 90+% of all Phenoms and FX-series CPUs at only $80.
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March 26, 2012 4:01:07 AM

http://ark.intel.com/products/52214/Intel-Core-i7-2600K...(8M-Cache-3_40-GHz)
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x)
Yes
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d)
No

http://ark.intel.com/products/52213/Intel-Core-i7-2600-...(8M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz)
Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x)
Yes
Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d)
Yes

see what im sayin? =] vt-x is alright, im able to run minecraft and stuff in a vm. vt-d is better though.
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