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March 25, 2012 7:10:43 PM

Hello, I want a computer in the 800-900 dollar range, a little over won't kill me but the less money I spend without losing performance the happier. I will be running games such as bf3 and skyrim on High/Ultra settings, ill be oc'ing the gpu and cpu. here is my build http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

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March 25, 2012 7:21:33 PM

560 ti will drop in price or has...no need for ?able gpu card.

You could shave some of the case and a step down to a plain 560 or like card and get an SSD. A 560 can play at high.

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March 25, 2012 7:25:16 PM

I cant find a cheaper case that has excellent airflow (as needed for a gaming computer) and great ratings. and an SSD is WAY out of my budget, with the discount the graphics card cost $10 than the same exact model except non ti, so i see no point in downgrading especially since the ti does better in performance.
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a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 25, 2012 10:05:17 PM
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$200 for a refurbished 560 Ti? I wouldn't suggest it.

Check out my $850 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Gives you a better board for the money, Gen3 support plus great overclocking. A better card that can overclock way more, infact past the GTX 580 in performance with much lower temps and power consumption. A better PSU in the sense of better efficiency and more wattage.
March 25, 2012 10:32:02 PM

I wanted to keep the case because it has really good air flow and it's a full tower case, it has USB 3.0 on the front and the ASRock doesn't have the connectors for usb 3.0. The asus mobo doesn't have pci express 3.0 so the card would be useless :p  am I approaching this from a wrong stand point?
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 25, 2012 10:42:49 PM

aznshinobi said:
$200 for a refurbished 560 Ti? I wouldn't suggest it.

Check out my $850 build here:
http://www.squidoo.com/electronicandmore
Gives you a better board for the money, Gen3 support plus great overclocking. A better card that can overclock way more, infact past the GTX 580 in performance with much lower temps and power consumption. A better PSU in the sense of better efficiency and more wattage.


I agree - refurbished parts are almost *ALWAYS* a bad idea no matter what it is. Tread very carefully if you do buy a refurbished card.

Here's a >=$850 build that I typically recommend:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99 ($10.00 MIR)
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 - $89.99 ($15.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Asrock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 - $121.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2400 - $189.99
RAM: PNY XLR8 8GB 1600MHz 1.5V - $42.99
HD: Samsung / Seagate Spinpoint F3 500GB - $84.99
Optical: Samsung DVD Burner - $15.99
Video Card: Power Color Radeon HD 7850 - $259.99

Total: $865.99 - $25.00 MIR = $840.99
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 25, 2012 11:09:28 PM

^ Disagree with the TX650 mainly, @ the price of 750w might as well go with that. Even the MIR is canceled out since the OCZ also has a MIR as well but performs just as well. Also, you've paid $190 might as well pay a little more and get the ability to overclock. You already have a Z68 board afterall

But Dark, in a sense you are approaching it wrong. Gen3 doesn't work unless it's paired with an Ivy Bridge chip. PCI 2.0 and PCI 3.0 are backwards compatible so no issue with the 7850 it's just the fact that in the future you can still use PCI 3.0 if you upgrade your CPU. As for the board it's not better than the Asus board you had prior but saves you money for practically the same features.

But yes you should just keep your case if you want USB 3.0 front ports. Another alternative.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But yeah, my $850 satisfies all your needs.
March 25, 2012 11:19:30 PM

Hold on, I'm confused. What you're saying is that unless the board is a Gend3 board the pci 2.0 and 3.0 are switched. so 3.0 graphics cards are placed in the 2.0 slots??
March 25, 2012 11:25:46 PM

darkbubble said:
Hello, I want a computer in the 800-900 dollar range, a little over won't kill me but the less money I spend without losing performance the happier. I will be running games such as bf3 and skyrim on High/Ultra settings, ill be oc'ing the gpu and cpu. here is my build http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...



Here is a link: This a barebone kit from Tigerdirect. It's only $529.99 The MB supports overclocking and it come with i5 2500K CPU, click the link below and take a look.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

All you need to buy is a decent GPU for you to play BF3 and skyrim
March 26, 2012 12:16:43 AM

But can PCI 3.0 go into a 2.0 slot?
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 26, 2012 12:54:47 AM

YES! PCI 2.0 AND 3.0 ARE BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE.

Get the Asrock Extreme3 Gen3 Z68 though, I can't stress this enough, the Asus board you selected would run Crossfire @ 16x/4x which is worse than the Asrock's 8x/8x.

Another thing, the Asus board doesn't have Gen3 support THEREFORE even if you had an Ivy Bridge chip, you wouldn't have PCI 3.0. I'm not saying that PCI 3.0 cards can't beused bu I'm saying that it doesn't have the capability even get PCI 3.0 slots in the future. The Asrock board does.

Gen3 means that if there is an Ivy Bridge CPU then it can utilize PCI 3.0 slots...

If you don't get that explanation you're going to have to Google Gen3 because I seriously simplified that the best I could.
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March 26, 2012 2:04:50 AM

I don't know much about PCs, but in my opinion I would downgrade the case if you want the cooler.
March 26, 2012 2:08:18 AM

Downgrade to what? this is the cheapest full tower case there is
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 26, 2012 2:30:46 AM

Quote:
^ Disagree with the TX650 mainly, @ the price of 750w might as well go with that. Even the MIR is canceled out since the OCZ also has a MIR as well but performs just as well. Also, you've paid $190 might as well pay a little more and get the ability to overclock. You already have a Z68 board afterall


The problem with that is if you get the i5-2500K, on a <=$900 build you forfeit some of your GPU budget to get a better CPU, and the sad thing is the 7770 isn't living up to the standards that the 78XX and 79XX have been living up to, otherwise I'd recommend that setup.

March 26, 2012 2:34:56 AM

But i wanted a full tower case that had a large side panel (gotta show off the bad boy when it's done) and also had excellent airflow
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 26, 2012 3:11:50 AM

^ But you'd have terrible cable management as that case has absolutely no cable management holes and so it'd just be a mess of cables. Not exactly something pretty to look at.

Your decision though.
March 26, 2012 4:11:03 AM

darkbubble said:
But can PCI 3.0 go into a 2.0 slot?


Yeah! I'm using an Asus direct CU HD 7770 1120 MHz core clock PCIe 3.0GPU and its working fine and blazing fast, I'm palnning to buy another one for a crossfireX next month.
March 26, 2012 4:24:17 AM

Then what is a good case, that has a side panel window, good cable management, looks nice, and has excellent airflow. Doesn't matter anymore if it's mid or full
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 26, 2012 5:20:22 PM

darkbubble said:
Then what is a good case, that has a side panel window, good cable management, looks nice, and has excellent airflow. Doesn't matter anymore if it's mid or full


Only one I can think of that meets those requirements is the Antec 1100: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 26, 2012 5:27:35 PM

its a lil too much for my budget :p 
March 28, 2012 2:30:04 PM

Im doing the antec 1100, its way nicer, and i looked at that case before. It seems a lot of people are have problems with the front l/O panel. I will be over budget but I can find a way to get everything. Thanks for the help! Everyone here has been of great assistance.
March 28, 2012 3:07:25 PM

I like the Corsair 400R. very clean and solid. good airflow for a mid.

MSRP is $99... but i got it for 89...
March 28, 2012 3:28:09 PM

I say it looks good... did you mention OC'ing? i didnt see a CPU cooler on there... just a 140 mm case fan. i have the Thermaltake FRIO and like it a lot. but its about $50 and there are cheaper options for around $30 or so.
March 28, 2012 3:33:49 PM

Thanks for the reminder, I got it now, the 4 fans are for the side panel and the front.
March 28, 2012 4:28:16 PM

and the back/top? side and front should intake...back and top should exhaust.

March 28, 2012 5:05:05 PM

Top there is a 200mm blue led (hence the blue led fans im buying) and the back a 120mm black fan.
March 28, 2012 5:21:30 PM

sounds good then... i like the build personally. i dont know anything about OSZ PSUs so i can't help there... i have a Corsair 850w V2 and its great, so i recommend that one.

The only other thing i can think of is Windows 7.
March 28, 2012 5:48:51 PM

well the OCZ has good reviews, is modular, is enough wattage to support my needs and is 80+ bronze. The only thing bothering me is that in some of the reviews it is mentioned that the cables are a bit stiff and thick, so wiring them around the backs of cases is a bit of a pain.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 28, 2012 11:00:26 PM

The Asrock Extreme4 Gen3 Z68 or any Sandy Bridge board doesn't run full 16x/16x but that wouldn't really effect the performance a whole lot from 8x/8x.

As for the PSU, I don't know which one you're talking about but I'm assuming this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 29, 2012 12:18:01 AM

That one but the 650W version. I am set on all of my components as well.
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 29, 2012 12:24:16 AM

Alright sounds good.
March 29, 2012 3:01:40 AM

Well then thanks!
March 29, 2012 11:00:31 AM

darkbubble said:
Well then thanks!


I know this will be out of your price range but newegg has a good deal for a 560ti 448 core and bf3 for free for 239.99 after mir
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
March 30, 2012 12:44:15 AM

^ How much before rebates though?
March 30, 2012 4:13:25 PM

Well I chose to go with the 7850, more powerful that the 560ti, not as stable though. I am already about 100 over budget, but I will try to get some more money. However, I am still very unsure of a power supply. the power supply I previously picked, an OCZ 750W ZS series, was a fully modular power supply, but in the reviews a good percentage said the cables were a little on the short side, as well as being stiff and thick. That it was a pain to route cables around the back.
March 30, 2012 4:18:07 PM

ZT* series
a c 91 B Homebuilt system
April 1, 2012 9:18:50 PM

Sounds good hope it goes well.
April 8, 2012 1:21:48 AM

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