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March 25, 2012 9:16:56 PM

Hello everyone!

My currect computer is very, very old and can't run any modern games, and when I say very old, I mean Nvidia FX5500 old. I have worked hard last summer to be able to buy myself a very new gaming computer (next to study-related things, like using Word and Excel).


Approximate Purchase Date: Within a week from now.

Budget Range: 900 euro (=1,194 USD)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming (BF3, AC), watching movies, Word/Excel and other common stuff.

Parts Not Required: Monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers, Windows 7 OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: The Netherlands

Overclocking: Initially not (maybe in the future)

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024 (still own a silly 17" monitor, will buy a 22" if I have money left)

Additional Comments: Unfortunately my hardware knowledge is very limited. I have tried asking for advice at Newegg but they weren't very helpful. So far I have picked a build with some help from friends. My biggest problem lies with the motherboard and PSU. I have honestly got no clue about the motherboard..

Build so far: http://puu.sh/mnf9 (it's a link to a screenshot from the dutch website I'll be ordering it from, if you don't trust link, I have links to the components on newegg below)

CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU:
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III PE/OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM:
Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:

1) ASUS P8Z68-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This motherboard doesn't really have good reviews, so I'm not sure about it.

2) GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
This motherboard also doesn't have very good reviews.. that's why I'm really clues about what motherboard to get for the build. There are so many choices but I have no idea what to look out for.

PSU:
OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular Gaming Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I'm guessing 550W will be enough. PSU also seem to be an important component, this one seems reliable.

Computer case:
Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced

DVD Burner:
LG-GH-22NS30

HDD:
Will use an old one until the prices drop

With these components (mobo excluded) I'm at 720 euro (= 955 USD)
I don't really want to buy a super expensive mobo, I had about 120 USD in mind for it. So that I can afford a new monitor too.

So basically I have almost everything but I'm completely clueless about the motherboard and have no knowledge about them. Both motherboards I picked have bad reviews. Can someone please help me with this? :)  Since I wont be using SLI or crossfire I wont need those fancy features.
March 25, 2012 10:52:26 PM

I am using this MB and am quite happy with it after 7 months. ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $122USD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you read the reviews on this, some people say it is 'flimsy'. Actually, it's a bit smaller than a regular ATX board and most cases don't have a place for a MB standoff on the front/center, so you have to support the MB with your fingers when plugging in the 20+4 pin power cable.
As for monitors, I am quite happy with this 23.6" 1080 monitor. $169USD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 26, 2012 4:46:46 PM

Thank you so much DelroyMonjo! That board of yours seems alright, I think I'll be going for that one! :D 
I have some questions about it tho, since you are using it (and my pc knowledge is nihil) :
1) Since a part of the mobo is unsupported, will it form a problem with heavy videocards (or am I misreading here..?)
2) Are you using the soundcard of the mobo, if yes; how is the sound? :) 

So the mobo issue is solved! If I'll buy this mobo I'll have enough money for a monitor! Yay! The one you suggested looks quite nice, need to see if any Dutch stores offer that one.

One last question:

Will a PSU of 550W be enough? If I look at what the GPU and CPU consume, I think it'll be enough. Or should I go for a 600W just in case? Don't want any bottlenecks of course.


Thanks in advance! c:
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March 26, 2012 5:01:23 PM

Quote:

2) GIGABYTE GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 68A-D3H-B3
This motherboard also doesn't have very good reviews.. that's why I'm really clues about what motherboard to get for the build. There are so many choices but I have no idea what to look out for.


Yeah I don't like the D3H - I use the UD3P and it's a far better board - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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GPU:
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III PE/OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127582


Before committing to the 570 you should really look at the Radeon 7870 as it's a much newer card and its' numbers have been matching and in some cases beating the GTX 580: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-revi...

Quote:
1) Since a part of the mobo is unsupported, will it form a problem with heavy videocards (or am I misreading here..?)


No - that is misreading - that has more to do with your case than anything else. And as long as your case fits the card it will be fine.

Quote:
2) Are you using the soundcard of the mobo, if yes; how is the sound? :) 


Onboard audio is fine - sound cards haven't been required since 2002.

Quote:
Will a PSU of 550W be enough? If I look at what the GPU and CPU consume, I think it'll be enough. Or should I go for a 600W just in case? Don't want any bottlenecks of course.


You might want to get a Corsair TX650 to be on the safe side - OCZ has a really iffy reputation when it comes to power supplies, the Corsairs are pretty solid for the most part - especially the TX, HX, and AX series.
March 26, 2012 5:57:32 PM

Thank you g-unit1111! :) 

You are indeed right about the PSU, it will cost me 30 euro more but that shouldn't be a problem. I've heard from more people that Corsair is a good brand but I had no idea which one to pick. Thank you for that! :) 

Quote:
Yeah I don't like the D3H - I use the UD3P and it's a far better board - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128506

That one is unfortunately a little bit too expensive for me! For now I will stick to DelroyMonjo's suggestion.

Quote:
Before committing to the 570 you should really look at the Radeon 7870 as it's a much newer card and its' numbers have been matching and in some cases beating the GTX 580: http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] ,3148.html

You are definitely right about Radeon 7870's performance but the price has big and scary numbers, haha. No way I could afford that anytime soon. So I guess the GTX570 is the best option for me price/performance-wise right now.

My case supports ATX so I guess the motherboard shouldn't be a problem, even though the size of the motherboard deviates from the standard ATX sizes.

So if I pick the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 as motherboard and Corsair TX650 as PSU my build should be complete. One final question: will anything conflict? So far I think the build will work fine, but since my knowledge is nihil I'd like some second opinions (sorry for asking so many annoying questions :x)

March 26, 2012 6:18:48 PM

Quote:

You are definitely right about Radeon 7870's performance but the price has big and scary numbers, haha. No way I could afford that anytime soon. So I guess the GTX570 is the best option for me price/performance-wise right now.


There's only a $60 price difference between the 570 and the 7870. If you can squeeze it in your budget - great, if not you should also consider the 7850 as that's been putting up numbers similar to the 570TI: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
March 26, 2012 6:49:26 PM

There is no 570ti. It's just fermi. :p 
March 26, 2012 7:23:56 PM

Quote:
There's only a $60 price difference between the 570 and the 7870. If you can squeeze it in your budget - great, if not you should also consider the 7850 as that's been putting up numbers similar to the 570TI: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102986


Oh indeed, you are right! I was looking at the wrong one that had a price so high it reached the sky. I could squeeze it into my budget but I think it would also be nice to get rid of this old 17" monitor! :)  and I think a new monitor would do me good, I've been looking at this old thing for years now haha.

So this will be my build now (link to a screenshot of the website I'll be ordering from, I know the link looks creepy but it's actually a software I use, you can select a part of your desktop and it uploades the selected part as an image):
http://puu.sh/mvgk

I think everything is looking nice, any crucial things I need to know before I start ordering tomorrow? :D 

And also thank you everyone for the input and effort taken to help me! :) 
March 26, 2012 8:58:24 PM

Frusty said:
Quote:
There's only a $60 price difference between the 570 and the 7870. If you can squeeze it in your budget - great, if not you should also consider the 7850 as that's been putting up numbers similar to the 570TI: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102986


Oh indeed, you are right! I was looking at the wrong one that had a price so high it reached the sky. I could squeeze it into my budget but I think it would also be nice to get rid of this old 17" monitor! :)  and I think a new monitor would do me good, I've been looking at this old thing for years now haha.

So this will be my build now (link to a screenshot of the website I'll be ordering from, I know the link looks creepy but it's actually a software I use, you can select a part of your desktop and it uploades the selected part as an image):
http://puu.sh/mvgk

I think everything is looking nice, any crucial things I need to know before I start ordering tomorrow? :D 

And also thank you everyone for the input and effort taken to help me! :) 


Nope - that looks good to me!
March 26, 2012 9:20:38 PM

Alright thank you again! :D  I shall be ordering my components tomorrow or the day after, will post here to let you know if everything works nicely. Unless it counts as useless topic resurrection, then I won't.
March 27, 2012 9:15:12 PM

Sorry to bump the thread, I have been reading about what ram goes with a motherboard. Apparently it's better (or at least you're sure it works) to pick a ram, from the Qualified Vendor List, that's been tested so you know for sure it's working. Is this crucial?

I picked Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820104231

with the mobo ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3. Can't find this ram in their list; should I go for on in the list to be on the safe side?
March 28, 2012 6:16:53 PM

Anyone? (sorry for bumping)
March 28, 2012 6:34:55 PM

Frusty said:
Anyone? (sorry for bumping)


Your link doesn't work - Kingston should be fine as long as it's 1.5V.
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