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Upgrade advice:I own the graphics cards but need advice on the rest!

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March 26, 2012 5:09:13 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: asap - when i find all the parts
System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, general use,
Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, case, graphics card, sound card
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: scan.co.uk,amazon.co.uk (uk vendors)
Country: England
Parts Preferences: I own 2 gtx 460s
Overclocking: Yes
SLI or Crossfire: Yes, SLI
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080
Additional Comments: Goals: upgrading with overclocks, games running on high graphics at 1920x1080, cutting down on the noise.

Hi guys, I just want to start my saying thanks for taking the time to read my thread.

I have had my current build for a few years now, upgrading parts here and there as i've gone along.
What im sitting on at the moment:

CPU:an old school intel core 2 e6300 clocked to the sweetspot of 2.8ghz With a Freezer Pro 7 cooler.
RAM:Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz,
MOBO: a very old gigabyte ga-p35c-ds3r,
GPU:nvidia 460GTX
PSU:corsair hx 520w
HDD:Seagate 1TB 3.5" Barracuda SATA-III 6Gb/s Hard Drive - 7200RPM 32MB Cache
Soundcard:Asus Xonar DG 5.1
Case: antec three hundred

Strangely enough its quite happy to run all the latest games on reasonable mid settings sometimes even on high settings. (witcher 2, starcraft 2, mass effect 3, battlefield 3) I am however pretty sure my cpu is bottlenecking everything(it makes a god awful racket at high load). Theres always that doubt of "is it worth the money to upgrade?" going through my head.

I have been considering an upgrade for a while now. The opportunity came along when a friend of mine upgraded and gave me his old 460 gtx. Which is ofcorse pretty fantastic because i now own 2 and can run them in sli!
After the joy faded and I thought about it a bit I realised nothing in life is simple :p 

My mobo doesnt actually support SLI, infact it doesn't even have the space for both cards and Im also thinking that my old corsair hx 520 wouldnt power the machine even if both cards fit!
Im thinking I need to upgrade my PSU, CPU, MOBO and RAM???..im also thinking I can keep my case, hdd, sound card and obviously the two gtx 460s.
Are my assumptions correct?

I have been doing a bit of research but any advice that you guys could give me would be a big help, I havn't been up to date with the latest components in quite some time.
Im looking at spending between £300 and £500 on the upgrades but any savings you guys can find would obviously be great.

I want to be able to overclock and get the most out of my components. I would like to run games for the forseeable future on reasonably high settings. Cutting down on the noise would also be a bonus.
I am toying with the idea of getting an ssd boot drive maybe with the space for 1 or 2 games?
The reason why i am unsure is i spend most of my time gaming and im unsure of the benefits of an ssd for games? Either way i definitely want the option of putting one in at a later date.
Any recommendations on some SSDs would be fantastic.

This is what I have planned out so far:

CPU:Intel CPU Core i5 Unlocked 2500K Sandy Bridge Quad Core Processor £166.98
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-2500k-unlo...
Comes with stock cooler, I am unsure if my old freezer pro 7 will fit on to it or be any better at cooling than the stock. Are there any recommendations you guys can make on a decent cooler? I am looking to overclock and get the most out of the cpu

MOBO:Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3-B3 Intel Z68 Socket 1155 Motherboard £84.82
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-z68x-ud3-b3-...
I am unsure about this mobo, this seems to be pretty lowend. Theres so many to choose from but im not sure of the advantages of the higher end boards?

RAM:Corsair Memory 8GB Vengeance Jet Black Low Profile 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 XMP Dual Channel £39.36
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-%282x4gb%29-corsair-...
This seems to be pretty decent?

PSU:Corsair CP-9020003-UK Enthusiast Series TX750M 750W Modular Power Supply (PSU) £87.00
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-psu-corsair-enthusi...
Is this sufficient to power my plans?

Total:£386.15 (including carriage)

Any help greatly appreciated and I am looking forward to your replys :wahoo: 

Thanks, Paul
March 26, 2012 8:28:10 PM

Hi again, sorry for the double post but it wouldnt let me edit. I realised i rambled on a bit in a big block of text and that there is no order to my questions so ill break it down below.

Short version: I own 2 nvidia gtx 460's and need advice on the parts to go with them.

Keeping in in mind my goals are upgrading with overclocks, games running on high graphics at 1920x1080, cutting down on the noise.

1) Cooling advice for the 2500k. Air or water?

2) I chose this mobo because its the cheapest I could find thats sli compatible. I am however unsure how it will perform with overclocking.

3)Is the PSU chosen enough to power my build?

4) Considering the dual cards, soundcard, psu and a possible hefty cooler is my antec three hundred going to fit everything in? I think it will but if it does it will be a pretty tight squeeze. will this have any issues with cooling?
Antec three hundred
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/antec-300-three-hundred-...

All help and advice greatly appreciated
March 26, 2012 8:58:48 PM

Question #1
Hyper 212 evo. (Air) its cheaper and you seem to be on a bit of a budget. Plenty of people like this Cooler for Overclocking. The one thing is its best to install this with the Motherboard OUT of the case.

Question #2
Gigabyte has a good rep. I personally haven't used one yet. Here is the link to Newegg (US Site with lots of reviews) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Seems like it has mostly good reviews.

Question #3
http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index... here is a tool for figuring your needed watts. I tend to think they overstate the needed watts a little. But either way 750 watts should be enough. The listed connectors on your site for that PSU are:
1 x 4+4pin CPU +12V
8 x 4pin Molex
4 x 6+2pin PCI-E Power (2 per each 460 ) Should be a good fit.
2 x FDD Power
8 x SATA Power

Corsair is one of the top brands..

Question #4

This man here has Tri-SLI 480's in his 300. Dosn't look like that required any modding to fit. (he modded everything else in site haha)

http://www.overclock.net/t/1053837/rebuild-log-antec-30...

So your build should fit.

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March 26, 2012 11:01:09 PM

Thanks for the quick reply :wahoo: 

Quote:
Hyper 212 evo. (Air) its cheaper and you seem to be on a bit of a budget. Plenty of people like this Cooler for Overclocking. The one thing is its best to install this with the Motherboard OUT of the case.

I know virtually nothing about cooling, this looks like a good cooler for the price, and the reviews seem good. Im hoping it will be enough to get a decent clock out of the 2500k!

Quote:
Gigabyte has a good rep. I personally haven't used one yet. Here is the link to Newegg (US Site with lots of reviews) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128500 Seems like it has mostly good reviews.

To be honest with you the decision about mobo choice has taken up pretty much all of my day, there is so many options and I seem to be going round in circles. All i know is I want to have a good mobo for overclocking, run sli and that i have 1 x Line Out, 1 x Mic In, 2 x USB 2.0 at the front of my case. Theres just so many new technologies im not sure where to go! Is it worth paying a bit extra for a gen 3 board? What are all these bells and whistles on the higher end boards?

Quote:
http://images10.newegg.com/BizInte [...] index.html here is a tool for figuring your needed watts. I tend to think they overstate the needed watts a little. But either way 750 watts should be enough. The listed connectors on your site for that PSU are:

seems like a good psu to me as well, though i have the option of a xfx xxx 750w silver for a few extra pounds http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-xfx-xxx-p1-750b-ukb...
is it a better psu?

Quote:
This man here has Tri-SLI 480's in his 300. Dosn't look like that required any modding to fit. (he modded everything else in site haha)

hah very nice to see :D  Though i notice he is using watercooling. Would having my build packed so tightly together effect air flow inside my case at all? or one part heating another part up?

Another thought im having is throwing an SSD in for a boot drive and maybe for a favourite game. Any thoughts and recommendations? Are SSDs worth it for gaming?

Appreciate the feedback :wahoo: 
March 27, 2012 1:52:28 PM

Just an update to my planned build. Updated choices and links below!

The main thing holding me back from purchasing is motherboard choice, there are just so many options out there! After so much back and forth between low end boards I am now looking at the z68 extreme3 gen3, I have read its a very decent board. I can't decide if the extra cost is worth it? Some feedback here would be very appreciated.
mobo:AsRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005FGQLQQ/ref=ox_sc...

Some feedback on the ssd I have come up with would be brilliant, is there better bang for my buck? Still unsure if i will add one to my build at this moment in time. Could someone sway me either way please ? :p 
ssd:Samsung SSD 830 2.5inch SATA III 6GBps 128GB Desktop Accessory Kit with Free Norton Ghost 15
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005OK6VTA/ref=ox_sc...

Another question is does the hyper 212 evo cooler come with paste included? and is it worth removing said paste if it is there and buying some arctic silver 5 to go in its place?


cpu:Intel Sandybridge i5-2500K
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004FA8NX2/ref=ox_sc...

ram:Corsair LP Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1600MHz
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00569K7LM/ref=ox_sc...

psu:Corsair TX750 V2 High Performance 750w
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004O0P9VC/ref=ox_sc...

cooler:COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0068OI7T8/ref=ox_sc...
Thanks for this :D 

dvdrw:Sony AD-5280S-0B 24x Internal DVDRW SATA
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003Q8ZZ3U/ref=ox_sc...
realised i needed to replace my old ide drive :p 


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