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March 27, 2012 5:12:45 PM

Hey guys! Need your thoughts on a build that I would like to purchase within the next week or two.

Approximate purchase Date: Within the next two weeks

Budget Range: $1 - 1,200

Parts Not Required: Monitor, Case

Overclocking: Yes

SLI: Maybe



MOBO: ASRock Z68 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...

GPU: MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...

SSD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

PSU: Antec CP-1000 1000W Continuous ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Exclusively ...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL

CASE: Antec DF-85 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case (I already have this case in my possession)

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All this will mainly be for gaming, web surfing, and photo editing. May do video editing in the future but not sure yet.

I'm not as experienced and would like to see if there is anything I could upgrade higher to or go lower for. Thanks!
March 27, 2012 5:36:08 PM

Sry, I'm aware of the form. I"m stuck at work right now with my boss periodically hovering over my shoulder so I'm doing the quick copy paste version. Will put it into form version soon as I get home. ;) 
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March 28, 2012 12:41:51 AM

Okay, your build totals out at ~930$ which leaves ~270$ left to blow?

I would also have to tell you that you need an aftermarket cooler and thermal paste to overclock that processor.

If you're willing to spend a little for a ~4.5GHz overclock, then go for:
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO ~30-35$
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste ~10$

Otherwise, go with a Noctua cooler, same paste.

Also, consider: (they're all sold out for now on newegg, but they should be available again soon)
replacing your video card with a new flagship nvidia GTX 680 (beats the AMD Radeon HD 7970, which should drop in price soon though)
and to fit in your budget, you can drop the 1000W PSU for a 750w (which is still overkill) such as the Corsair Enthusiast TX750

Otherwise, nice build :) 

If you're really going to want the BEST performance in video editing and photo editing (applying filters and such) you will benefit from an i7's hyperthreading... Consider the i7-2600k
--> this won't make a noticeable difference in gaming and most other everyday applications.
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March 28, 2012 12:48:54 AM

lol I suggest instead of buying the gtx560ti msi drop it and go gtx680 it's awesome then buy some aftermarket cooler next time
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March 28, 2012 1:15:21 AM

Get a Hyper 212 Evo, 4GB of RAM, and a 560Ti/6870, some thermal paste, and a 650w PSU.
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March 28, 2012 3:55:49 PM

It's funny that you mention the Evo and Silver 5. I actually have the paste already and just forgot to mention I'm getting the Evo as well. So you really think I should invest in the GTX 680? I'm about to be out of a job but isn't that thing running for $500 and up? LOL...what's the next best cheaper card that's still very high in power but not exactly the newest thing.

You mentioned the 7970...maybe that...

quicksand10 said:
Okay, your build totals out at ~930$ which leaves ~270$ left to blow?

I would also have to tell you that you need an aftermarket cooler and thermal paste to overclock that processor.

If you're willing to spend a little for a ~4.5GHz overclock, then go for:
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO ~30-35$
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste ~10$

Otherwise, go with a Noctua cooler, same paste.

Also, consider: (they're all sold out for now on newegg, but they should be available again soon)
replacing your video card with a new flagship nvidia GTX 680 (beats the AMD Radeon HD 7970, which should drop in price soon though)
and to fit in your budget, you can drop the 1000W PSU for a 750w (which is still overkill) such as the Corsair Enthusiast TX750

Otherwise, nice build :) 

If you're really going to want the BEST performance in video editing and photo editing (applying filters and such) you will benefit from an i7's hyperthreading... Consider the i7-2600k
--> this won't make a noticeable difference in gaming and most other everyday applications.

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March 28, 2012 4:10:21 PM

Should I consider the 570? Or go one step above that?
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March 28, 2012 4:40:28 PM

A 750w psu is more than sufficient for dual 560's in SLI. A 1000w psu like that Antec up above is fine if you plan on running dual 580's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 FREE SHIPPING
XFX Core Edition PRO750W (P1-750S-NLB9) 750W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $128.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $34.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
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March 28, 2012 5:51:36 PM

For the best graphics cards for the money:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

The GTX 680 is the best single GPU on the market, but it's also $$$$, and you won't necessarily need it for most resolutions.

A GTX 570 is a good card as well, rest assured :) 

Also, 8GB RAM isn't really much more expensive than 4GB RAM, so might as well go with 8GB.

Also, you do have a HDD for storage, right? (other than the SSD)
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March 28, 2012 6:49:30 PM

Um... :heink:  ....no? lol...

I'm realizing now budget is looking more like $1k give or take. If possible, I'd like to keep it at with $1k with tax and shipping included. But if that means going significantly lower in quality, then I'll spend the extra $50 or $100 if necessary (trying to think long term here lol). Otherwise, yea...$1k.

I do have a separate portable hard drive that has at least 750gb left so I'm not too worried about that. The first thing I want to do is install Starcraft II and just go bananas! :pt1cable: 

I may or not may settle with the 560 or 70. Is there that much of a diff? If not, then maybe just the 560 for now. And then I can SLI them later. Though I do agree getting one solid card is better than shooting for dual...but budget is hard...

I want 8gb of ram cause I'll be doing photo stuff as well and possibly video in the future. Considered the i7 2600k for the hyper threading but just too broke lol.

quicksand10 said:
For the best graphics cards for the money:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

The GTX 680 is the best single GPU on the market, but it's also $$$$, and you won't necessarily need it for most resolutions.

A GTX 570 is a good card as well, rest assured :) 

Also, 8GB RAM isn't really much more expensive than 4GB RAM, so might as well go with 8GB.

Also, you do have a HDD for storage, right? (other than the SSD)

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March 28, 2012 7:00:54 PM

I may consider dual carding in the future so I'll just give myself that space by having the extra wattage.

The SSD is an interesting one. Wasn't aware that existed. Some reviews however have said something about running on NAND and not and that something like the Crucial M4 is faster. It is at least $50 more. The equivalent would be Mushkin's Deluxe SSD. Can anybody attest to the actual difference between the Muskin 128gb and the Crucial M4 128gb?

Why_Me said:
A 750w psu is more than sufficient for dual 560's in SLI. A 1000w psu like that Antec up above is fine if you plan on running dual 580's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $114.99 FREE SHIPPING
XFX Core Edition PRO750W (P1-750S-NLB9) 750W ATX12V 2.2 & ESP12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $128.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR120GB 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $34.99
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 2011/1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+

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March 28, 2012 8:24:59 PM

Well, I... don't really know what to say.

Personally, I wouldn't touch the CPU. However,
downgrading to a i5-2400 would save you ~30$ because it's cheaper than the i5-2500k and +50$ because you can use the stock HSF and thermal paste.

HOWEVER, you need another internal HDD for storage and programs that don't really require speed (or old games that you don't play anymore can be installed on the secondary HDD).
Personally, I find 128GB insufficient and I've never really thought about building a PC that runs on a 128GB SSD alone, but if you think you can manage...

You can also go for a less powerful PSU, but you want 'upgradability', which is understandable...

You can go with a H67 board if you get the i5-2400 (I don't usually recommend it, but you won't be overclocking it anyways) but, again, less upgradability because you lose the ability to overclock your future processor. However, most H67 boards will support the newer ivy bridge...

Otherwise, you can drop ~40-50$ on the motherboard by getting an ASUS P8Z68-V LX

Thoughts?
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March 28, 2012 10:44:02 PM

Hmm...I suppose...(on the thought about secondary hard drive).

I have been planning to get one regardless because I completely agree that you can't just run on a SSD that is 128GB alone. But again, because of budget issues, I was trying to pick one up later and not now.

Any recommendations on a fairly fast one (RPM wise...+7200?) that has at least 1TB or more?

I'll keep the CPU as is as I really do want to overclock and not very much a fan of the H67s. So not even worth it to save $30-50 bucks and lose all that goodness. :) 

quicksand10 said:
Well, I... don't really know what to say.

Personally, I wouldn't touch the CPU. However,
downgrading to a i5-2400 would save you ~30$ because it's cheaper than the i5-2500k and +50$ because you can use the stock HSF and thermal paste.

HOWEVER, you need another internal HDD for storage and programs that don't really require speed (or old games that you don't play anymore can be installed on the secondary HDD).
Personally, I find 128GB insufficient and I've never really thought about building a PC that runs on a 128GB SSD alone, but if you think you can manage...

You can also go for a less powerful PSU, but you want 'upgradability', which is understandable...

You can go with a H67 board if you get the i5-2400 (I don't usually recommend it, but you won't be overclocking it anyways) but, again, less upgradability because you lose the ability to overclock your future processor. However, most H67 boards will support the newer ivy bridge...

Otherwise, you can drop ~40-50$ on the motherboard by getting an ASUS P8Z68-V LX

Thoughts?

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March 28, 2012 11:22:42 PM

If you're on a budget, take into consideration two things:

1. The difference between the i5-2500k and i5-2400 CPUs are not really that important in gaming.

Also, like I said, I wouldn't recommend the H67 chipset, but if you're going with a i5-2400, might as well go with that and save money since you're not overclocking. (also, save the money you were gonna put in the ASRock Z68 + i5-2500k and put it aside for the next build!)

And for over 80$ in savings... at least consider it.

2. Again, I would never recommend a slow "green" hard drive (such as a Seagate Barracuda Green) as a primary drive, but as a secondary drive for storage (you don't need a fast HDD to watch a movie, you know lol...) consider it as an option.

That said,

Go with the least space you can for now on a mechanical hard drive: prices are high...
500GB-1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 or Western Digital Caviar Blue (whichever one is cheaper, really)

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